Colonialism In The Middle East

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To those here who condemn colonialism: Every accusation is an admission.

George Monastiriakos: The Mideast was shaped by Arab colonialism, but some minorities survive despite the odds (msn.com)
“Progressives” often portray the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) as homogeneously Arab and Muslim. That is not accurate. The MENA is a diverse region, home to many non-Arab minority groups with cultures that predate both the Arabic language and Islam. Some of these ancient communities have resisted Arab colonialism, persecution and assimilation for the past 1,400 years.

Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all Abrahamic religions. Judaism has significant barriers to entry for outsiders who want to adopt the faith. Christianity and Islam, on the other hand, are expansionist in nature, openly seeking and encouraging newcomers to convert to their religions.

Countless wars have been fought around the world in the name of imposing these two belief systems on non-believers. Despite their many similarities, however, Christianity and Islam have diverged in matters regarding diversity and dissent.

For centuries, questioning religious authority was prohibited in Christianity. Many critical thinkers were persecuted and killed for merely exercising common sense. Eventually, however, Christian imperialists engaged in introspection and abandoned their totalitarian conformism in favor of the scientific method and rational thought. Thus emerged the European Enlightenment and western liberalism.

Yet a similar introspective experience, which leads to respect for diversity of opinion and belief, did not materialize in the Islamic world. Tolerance of differences and dissent has been difficult to reconcile with the more monolithic worldview of Islam.

States in the MENA don’t tolerate dissent against their governments, let alone against religion. Blasphemy laws criminalizing criticism of Islam are enforced by most countries in the region. The punishment for apostasy (conversion from Islam to another religion) in Qatar and the United Arab Emirates , two allies of the West, is still death. Non-Muslims cannot openly practice their faith in Saudi Arabia . The list goes on and on. The divine authority of the last and true religion of Abraham must be accepted without criticism.

Despite what Islamists and their apologists would have “progressives” believe, the process of Arabizing the MENA was not peaceful. Far from it. Arab colonialism brought the Arabic language and Islam to the MENA. Both were spread by conquest and consolidated by gradually assimilating those who were conquered. Within a few centuries, Arab expansion resulted in an empire that stretched from the Indus River Valley to the Atlantic Ocean.

A liberal,and democratic Jewish state exists, despite endless efforts to eradicate the difference it represents, and the threat that diversity poses, to Arab hegemony. After all, nearly half of Israel’s Jewish population are the descendants of Mizrachi — mostly Jews from Arab countries who fled persecution across the MENA and can never return.

Despite millennia of exile, statelessness, forced conversions, pogroms, genocide and the 1948 Arab invasion, the Jews finally earned a tiny country of their own where they can pass their religion and language onto their children free from the bullying they endured at the hands of their antisemitic oppressors in Europe and the MENA.
 
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WyattEarp

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Just a cursory google search of this guy George Monastrikios shows that he is a bought and paid for kook, who writes anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab columns for the National Post. He has no other significant presence on the internet. He goes so far as to post this shit on LinkedIn too.
It's interesting that you zeroed in on the author rather than his relatively factual account of history.
 
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It's interesting that you zeroed in on the author rather than his relatively factual account of history.
When Kautilya does not have facts on his side, his signature move is to claim that those facts are irrelevant. I've seen him do it dozens and dozens of times and I call him out on it. It's actually quite humorous but in a pathetic way. That's exactly what he did here. It's his way of admitting defeat without having to admit he's wrong.

He'd be better off not replying at all than to do the same thing over and over.
 
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When Kautilya does not have facts on his side, his signature move is to claim that those facts are irrelevant. I've seen him do it dozens and dozens of times and I call him out on it. It's actually quite humorous but in a pathetic way. That's exactly what he did here. It's his way of admitting defeat without having to admit he's wrong.

He'd be better off not replying at all than to do the same thing over and over.
If Kautilya calls someone a kook, I am more inclined to take said person more seriously in the absence of further information. I mean if some pro terrorist, pro genocidal, pro rape called me a kook, I'd take it as a badge of honour.
 
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Good luck with that line, hammy.
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I guess oppression, colonialism, and expansionist empires are only bad when you can blame them on the Jews.

But since you are so interested in Palestine, is there a reason why you've never commented on Jordan annexing the West Bank in 1949 (or for that matter, that Jordan is ruled by foreigners put there by the Brits)?
 

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Just a cursory google search of this guy George Monastrikios shows that he is a bought and paid for kook, who writes anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab columns for the National Post. He has no other significant presence on the internet. He goes so far as to post this shit on LinkedIn too.
As opposed to Frank who writes ant-Jewish and anti-Israel columns for terb?
 
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Isn't everything communism now?
The freedom convoy types were out protesting something or other the other day with 'globalism is communism' signs.
The anti-globalist, anti-communist dogma promotes the same anti-Jewish conspiracy theories as you do.
 

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I guess oppression, colonialism, and expansionist empires are only bad when you can blame them on the Jews.

But since you are so interested in Palestine, is there a reason why you've never commented on Jordan annexing the West Bank in 1949 (or for that matter, that Jordan is ruled by foreigners put there by the Brits)?
Jordan stopped that expansionism in 1949.
Israel continues today, with claims to settle Gaza.

And still you defend Israel.


 
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As I mentioned there was nothing of facts in this article. 🤷‍♂️
Instead of just claiming that the article is irrelevant, which is your default and well-worn rebuttal, why don't you point out several facts that are incorrect to disprove the central theme that Islam is the only major religion that is currently expansionist.
 

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Instead of just claiming that the article is irrelevant, which is your default and well-worn rebuttal, why don't you point out several facts that are incorrect to disprove the central theme that Islam is the only major religion that is currently expansionist.
The only articles you need to be reading are posted by the ICC, UN and ICJ, hammy.
 

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No you didn't. All you said is that is all false. You didn't say what was non-factual. Here is your quote:

As I mentioned there was nothing of facts in this article. 🤷‍♂️
Tell us what in particular were non-facts and what the actual facts are. Until you do and back up your claim, your opinion is irrelevant at best and otherwise pretty much just ignorant.
 

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Instead of just claiming that the article is irrelevant, which is your default and well-worn rebuttal, why don't you point out several facts that are incorrect to disprove the central theme that Islam is the only major religion that is currently expansionist.
Inane
 
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I already commented on the facts of the article, that the author forgot to mention that it is under the Christians and the Europeans that Jews were genocided. 🤷‍♂️
Not that I accept anything that someone who promotes violence against women, the article was about Muslim colonialism and you totally ignored that. As such your post was irrelevant to the topic at hand.
 

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Muslim colonialism from several centuries ago is irrelevant
Klassic Kautilya. He has to resort to the claim of "irrelevant" because he has no facts to back him up. He's admitting he's wrong. You are unable to refute HISTORY and current events. Islam is currently still in the process of colonialism. How long has it been that Iran became a Muslim ethno-state?

Only 50 years. That is very, very relevant by the standards that you just posted.

They accept no other religions and will attempt to turn every other country that is not a Muslim ethno-state into one. This is current, not centuries ago.

Your uninformed claims and blatantly biased opinions are what's irrelevant.
 
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