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shack

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Pretzeled mumbo jumbo.
Logic which you are incapable of processing.

You have already been repeatedly educated that the only the ICJ, ICC and the special rapporteurs are the ones with a mandate to provide advisory opinions, prosecute or produce reports on genocide.
You have not educated me at all. Instead, you have educated TERB as to how little you know.

Advisory opinions are not resolutions. You laughed at opinions yourself when you said, like assholes, every one has opinions. It is "advice" based on an "opinion". A resolution is an official binding policy of the body of the UN. It is not advice. It is not opinion. It is a final conclusion.
Are you saying that an opinion carries more weight than a resolution like this:

November 6, 1962
On November 6, 1962, the United Nations General Assembly adopts a resolution condemning South Africa’s racist apartheid policies and calling on all its members to end economic and military relations with the country.

Does an opinion order all the members of the UN to end economic and military relations? Why has the UN not issued a binding resolution NOW regarding what is happening NOW like they did in 1982? The UN has shown us that this is how the UN works.

Even so I produced a resolution because am nice like that and because you asked that clearly prove Israel has engaged in genocide 40 years go. Combine that with what's going on in Gaza, the UN rapporteurs report and the ICJ verdict, it is irrefutably clear that Israel is engaged in genocide in Gaza.
What was nice about you providing a resolution from 1982 is that you prove my point for me. There are no current binding resolutions declaring that Israel is currently committing genocide. I am asking for proof from the UN of what you claim is happening now. You have failed miserably and I don't think that even Geno would take up your cause here.

Please explain how actions from over 40 years ago prove that Israel is currently committing genocide post Oct.7? You quote 35,000 dead as proof of genocide. What does 1982 have to do with this 35,000 dead in the last 7 months.

Yes, the case is closed because your arguments are seriously descending into the realm of idiocy and I will not lower myself to your level and have you beat me with your experience. You are embarrassing yourself with this line of (non)reasoning.
 
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shack

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No, the whole point is that you have moved the goal posts to the tiniest spot you can find, knowing that the US regularly vetoes resolutions against Israel.
UN protocol has been followed. No irregularities or illegal tactics were undertaken. The result of following UN rules/protocol is that no resolutions have resulted that declare Israel has committed genocide in this current conflict.

You may not like the rules and you may not like the outcome, but they are what they are. Change the rules or deal with it. I don't think that there are any other options for you.
 

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CBC posts an article from an ex Israeli ambassador who says Netanyahu is prolonging the war solely for his own political career.
Netanyahu is so desperate he will destroy zionism through genocide just so he stays in power.

Netanyahu prolonging assault on Gaza for political gain: former ambassador
Hamas agreeing to ceasefire deal increases pressure on Netanyahu, says Alon Pinkas
He may be correct but that is not germane to the discussion of if Israel is committing genocide or is an apartheid state. You should stop claiming that unless and until the UN says so.
 

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UN protocol has been followed. No irregularities or illegal tactics were undertaken. The result of following UN rules/protocol is that no resolutions have resulted that declare Israel has committed genocide in this current conflict.

You may not like the rules and you may not like the outcome, but they are what they are. Change the rules or deal with it. I don't think that there are any other options for you.
Deflection
 

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He may be correct but that is not germane to the discussion of if Israel is committing genocide or is an apartheid state. You should stop claiming that unless and until the UN says so.
Nonsensical
 

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UN protocol has been followed. No irregularities or illegal tactics were undertaken. The result of following UN rules/protocol is that no resolutions have resulted that declare Israel has committed genocide in this current conflict.

You may not like the rules and you may not like the outcome, but they are what they are. Change the rules or deal with it. I don't think that there are any other options for you.
There is lots of talk of ending the veto at the UN, hammy.
The US is working hard for everyone to support it.

 

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He may be correct but that is not germane to the discussion of if Israel is committing genocide or is an apartheid state. You should stop claiming that unless and until the UN says so.
Its quite germaine, hammy.
Netanyahu is destroying Gaza and zionism for his own personal political career.

He will be the end of Israel as a Jewish state.
 

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UN protocol has been followed. No irregularities or illegal tactics were undertaken. The result of following UN rules/protocol is that no resolutions have resulted that declare Israel has committed genocide in this current conflict.

You may not like the rules and you may not like the outcome, but they are what they are. Change the rules or deal with it. I don't think that there are any other options for you.
The South Africa resolution was a UNGA resolution.
So the UNGA resolution declaring zionism is racism, Israel must end the occupation and the hundreds of other resolution Israel has ignored all show that Israel is a pariah state like apartheid South Africa was.

Where do you move the goal posts to next?

 

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The South Africa resolution was a UNGA resolution.
So the UNGA resolution declaring zionism is racism, Israel must end the occupation and the hundreds of other resolution Israel has ignored all show that Israel is a pariah state like apartheid South Africa was.
Yet still no resolution affirming your claim that Israel is committing genocide.

Where do you move the goal posts to next?
I keep asking the same question that you keep running away from.
 
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Joe Biden is withholding aid from Israel, giving Iran and its proxies the green light to escalate attacks against our ally. He has also held back munitions that would more directly target Hamas while limiting collateral damage. The Biden Administration and Joe Biden himself have failed to support Israel. They're more concerned about their pro-Hamas wing of the Democrat Party.
 
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