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Iran fires air defence batteries in provinces as sound of explosions heard near Isfahan

basketcase

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Weren't Iranians celebrating after their launched missiles? Seems pretty quiet now...
Maybe the pro-Iran crowd here are just upset not enough Jews died.

Thankfully Iran's leaders compared the 98% shoot down rate of their massive barrage to Israel easily bypassing Iranian defences and decided they'd have enough. Sadly Hamas doesn't value life enough to get that message.
 
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The UNSC demanded a ceasefire, Israel is now a pariah state for refusing.
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Israel has accepted multiple mediated ceasefire deals. It's Hamas that refuses, just like they refuse to release their hostages.

But you worry that if you admit that, you might lose your Jews hater achievement badge.
 

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Maybe the pro-Iran crowd here are just upset not enough Jews died.

Thankfully Iran's leaders compared the 98% shoot down rate of their massive barrage to Israel easily bypassing Iranian defences and decided they'd have enough. Sadly Hamas doesn't value life enough to get that message.
The pro peace crowd here were happy that after Israel destroyed an Iranian embassy the Iranians found a way to respond that stopped the escalation into full on war.

 

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So Hamas' rejection of the UNSC doesn't count because it wasn't a report?

Meanwhile that UN report on hamas' use of rape...?
How was Hamas supposed to ceasefire when its Israel doing all the bombing and invading, basketcase?
There is no UN report on Hamas' rape, only a UN report that lists Israeli accusations, which have all fallen apart and been retracted now.


Why are you so keen on importing your genocide and racist fascism to north america?

 

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Do you think that Egypt and Saudi Arabia are wrong to take an approach of peace toward Israel?
No I don't. I'd have no problem with Israel if they paid their own way. I'd have no problem with the Israel Lobby or their donors if they gave their own blood and treasure to Israel.

But they don't. They steal someone else's.
 
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The UN does not adopt policies against nations. That is not how the UN works. The UN adopts policies against crimes such as genocide, which it has already done. The ICJ issues advisory opinions per the adopted policy. Per the adopted policy the ICJ has said that it is possible a genocide is being carried out in Gaza and that Israel should stop genocidal actions and stop incitement to genocide. Just because you string the words UN and policy together in a sentence does not mean you make any sense or have any idea of how the UN actually works.
This article from the History Channel completely contradicts this claim of yours.

UN condemns apartheid in South Africa | November 6, 1962 | HISTORY

On November 6, 1962, the United Nations General Assembly adopts a resolution condemning South Africa’s racist apartheid policies and calling on all its members to end economic and military relations with the country.

I keep asking you and Geno to provide such a resolution pertaining to Israel. You have both totally failed and now you are resorting to try and sneak these falsehoods into the argument. It is not a good luck for you as you admit defeat.

Please stop lying. The UN clearly adopts policies against nations. That is exactly how it works.
 

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This article from the History Channel completely contradicts this claim of yours.

UN condemns apartheid in South Africa | November 6, 1962 | HISTORY

On November 6, 1962, the United Nations General Assembly adopts a resolution condemning South Africa’s racist apartheid policies and calling on all its members to end economic and military relations with the country.

I keep asking you and Geno to provide such a resolution pertaining to Israel. You have both totally failed and now you are resorting to try and sneak these falsehoods into the argument. It is not a good luck for you as you admit defeat.

Please stop lying. The UN clearly adopts policies against nations. That is exactly how it works.
Over your head
 
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What a stupid demand, hammy.
The UN doesn't do resolutions that way.
You think it's stupid because you can't produce it and it is central to this discussion.

As I pointed out in the above post to Kautilya,, this History Channel article proves that you are either ignorant or lying. Sorry to say, but this claim of yours is 100% wrong.
 

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Over your head
You are incapable of possessing the intellect to debate what the article says. All you have is your amoeba-like utterances.
 
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No I don't. I'd have no problem with Israel if they paid their own way. I'd have no problem with the Israel Lobby or their donors if they gave their own blood and treasure to Israel.

But they don't. They steal someone else's.
Peace is one of the most important values/noble causes in this world, if not THE most.

In many cases the end does not always justify the means, but in this case using money to achieve peace is hardly a case of the means not justifying the end. Peace is a noble cause but you're saying that the source of the money is more important than saving tens of thousands of lies. I'm not sure how else to interpret your post.
 

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This article from the History Channel completely contradicts this claim of yours.

UN condemns apartheid in South Africa | November 6, 1962 | HISTORY

On November 6, 1962, the United Nations General Assembly adopts a resolution condemning South Africa’s racist apartheid policies and calling on all its members to end economic and military relations with the country.

I keep asking you and Geno to provide such a resolution pertaining to Israel. You have both totally failed and now you are resorting to try and sneak these falsehoods into the argument. It is not a good luck for you as you admit defeat.

Please stop lying. The UN clearly adopts policies against nations. That is exactly how it works.
As I said, the UN General Assembly adopts resolutions against crimes. Such as apartheid. Apartheid was the default state of affairs in South Africa and was acknowledged by South Africa at that time as not just the default state of affairs but also a necessary and prudent policy. Infact, they had many politicians who were vehement supporters of Apartheid. So the UN General Assembly adopted a resolution over a widely acknowledged crime.

Genocide in Gaza however is being denied by Israel and the genocide supporters of the west. So the ICJ has provided the advisory opinion that Israel should stop committing genocide and stop inciting it. The ICC is investigating and will pass a guilty verdict. Post that, the UN general assembly can adopt resolutions condemning Israel's genocide of the Palestinians.

Again, the resolutions are against crimes and not against countries as you stated. So what I said earlier was absolutely accurate.

It is also accurate to say that Israel is infact committing genocide based on the ICJs own advisory opinions. And also a little bit of common sense.

By the way, Israel has already been accused with UN resolutions being adopted, for being a participant in genocides in Lebanon etc as early as the 1980s., But that is besides the point. Not to mention just earlier this month the UNHRC adopted a resolution demanding Israeli accountability for war crimes in Gaza.
 
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Peace is one of the most important values/noble causes in this world, if not THE most.
Non sequitur. I wasn't talking about peace, I was talking about theft.

But since you brought it up. That stolen money doesn't buy peace. Quite the opposite.
 
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This article from the History Channel completely contradicts this claim of yours.

UN condemns apartheid in South Africa | November 6, 1962 | HISTORY

On November 6, 1962, the United Nations General Assembly adopts a resolution condemning South Africa’s racist apartheid policies and calling on all its members to end economic and military relations with the country.

I keep asking you and Geno to provide such a resolution pertaining to Israel. You have both totally failed and now you are resorting to try and sneak these falsehoods into the argument. It is not a good luck for you as you admit defeat.

Please stop lying. The UN clearly adopts policies against nations. That is exactly how it works.
How many resolutions has the US vetoed for Israel now?
How many has Biden vetoed?

Where would Israel be without Biden's veto?

 
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Peace is one of the most important values/noble causes in this world, if not THE most.

In many cases the end does not always justify the means, but in this case using money to achieve peace is hardly a case of the means not justifying the end. Peace is a noble cause but you're saying that the source of the money is more important than saving tens of thousands of lies. I'm not sure how else to interpret your post.
Genocide is the least noble thing you could possibly use your money for, hammy.

People in the US are super pissed at AIPAC.
This is the future.
 
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As I said, the UN General Assembly adopts resolutions against crimes. Such as apartheid. Apartheid was the default state of affairs in South Africa and was acknowledged by South Africa at that time as not just the default state of affairs but also a necessary and prudent policy. Infact, they had many politicians who were vehement supporters of Apartheid. So the UN General Assembly adopted a resolution over a widely acknowledged crime.
LOL. Whatever bizarro gobbledeegoop you want to twist, I showed the UN passed a resolution in exactly the way you said that they don't do. Too funny.
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LOL. Whatever bizarro gobbledeegoop you want to twist, I showed the UN passed a resolution in exactly the way you said that they don't do. Too funny.
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Except you missed the process that they follow that I said you had no idea of. I like how you back down when confronted with facts. You only like to make short childish troll quips.

By the way, pretzeling is you first denying there was any apartheid in South Africa. Then saying you support apartheid. And then referencing a UN resolution condemning apartheid. If you are going to plagiarize the pretzel label from me, atleast get it right.
 
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Except you missed the process that they follow that I said you had no idea of. I like how you back down when confronted with facts. You only like to make short childish troll quips.
The process is irrelevant because the UN clearly passes the type of resolution that you explicitly told us that they do not. It was a blanket statement by you with no qualifiers. Now, since you've been proven wrong, you are pretzelling and moving the goalposts by saying, "Oh, it's the process." Your debating skills are severely lacking. You need to remain consistent to have any credibility.

The History Channel article proved how false your claims are. You need to admit that your statements were wrong and they were all part of a vain attempt to explain why the UN has NEVER passed any resolutions condemning Israel of committing apartheid or genocide as you constantly accuse them of.

The UN's refusal to condemn Israel of apartheid or genocide combined with your incessant accusations to the contrary is hate speech. You are knowingly spreading falsehoods about Israel for the sole purpose of inciting hate against Israel. That is disgusting.
 
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