Israel at war
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Hammy, you sound like someone from North Korea or Iran now.
'The UN will never stop us'.....
Meanwhile the entire world has turned against your hate.
Universities in the US:
Your reply does not address ICC/ICJ demands for Hamas to immediately and unconditionally return the hostages.
Reality is that the UN has not passed any resolutions forcing Israel to stop. And since there are NO such resolutions, then Israel cannot defy things that don't exist.
How silly. Now you are claiming that the entire world cannot stop Israel's goal of eradicating Hamas.
Listen to yourself.
The only demands the ICJ makes are through 'provisional measures'.
The only provisional measures the ICJ gave were for Israel to not commit genocide, prevent killing Palestinians in Gaza and allow all aid through.
Israel obeyed none of those and zionism will go on trial for genocide.
Wrong.
The UNSC resolution demanded Israel ceasefire.
The ICC charges are coming.
But the peoples of Israel and their Jewish religion are who the lobby are speaking for. Your demonizing of the Israeli lobby is racist and anti-Semitic because of that.
That's your choice. Knock yourself out.
Only because the other Arab nations don't care enough. Undeniably, if they wanted to, they could outspend Israel in a heartbeat. Why don't they spend more?
Unfortunately for you lobbying is currently a worldwide reality. Go ahead and change it. Until then, you have to deal with it.
The Iron Dome was developed by Israel. Just one example of why your statement is incorrect. Regardless, Israel's intelligence agencies have information on threats to American interests that the US can only dream of. Israel has informants and insiders already in place. They have infiltrated and are deeply embedded in institutions that are mutual enemies of Israel and the US. And by reasons of geography, Israel can deal with Iranian and other regional threats much quicker than the US can.
So there there is more than just technology that Israel can provide.
The US does not need to seek these alliances. They already have Israel. It's these other countries that need to pursue the US. They clearly have the means but for some reason they do not have the resolve/desire/interest to do so.
Your reality and the US' seem to be different. You need to pay more attention to what the US believes to understand what is going on in the world.
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Those are two different groups unless you're saying that all Israeli Arabs back AIPAC and lobbying for the genocide of their people.
Even claiming all Jewish people back AIPAC is antisemitic, not all Jews back genocide, hammy.
We are talking only about zionists.
Actually, the UN passes declarations and resolutions that are not provisional. They are direct and absolute. Like the one that told Hamas to immediately and unconditionally return the hostages. Direct and absolute and Hamas continues to ignore.
GeNostrodamas makes more predictions for our amusement.
What an incredibly ignorant statement. You really have zero understanding of the UN, ICJ and international law.
Pretzelism 101.
This is insanity. You are claiming that the Israeli lobby, even with their 8 billionaires has more money that Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, etc. How much do these 8 billionaires contribute?
Just Saudi Arabia:
Saudi Arabia has since become the world's third-largest oil producer and largest oil exporter, controlling the world's second-largest oil reserves and the sixth-largest gas reserves.[33] The kingdom is categorized as a World Bank high-income economy and is the only Arab country to be part of the G20 major economies.[34][35] The Saudi government has attracted criticism for various policies such as its intervention in the Yemeni Civil War, alleged sponsorship of terrorism as well as for its use of executions.[36][37]
Saudi Arabia is considered both a regional and middle power.[38][39] The Saudi economy is the largest in the Middle East; the world's nineteenth-largest economy by nominal GDP and the seventeenth largest by PPP.
How much money does Saudi make from oil?
The state-owned energy giant pumps out oil at a rate no other single company can match—at margins that are the envy of every competitor. Its revenues, which reached $440 billion in 2023,
Saying that your claim of all Arab countries not being able to outspend the Israel lobby is insanity. It is not hyperbole. It also perpetuates the anti-Semitic trop of the Jews controlling the world with their money.
If it's all about money (you say that Israel offers nothing to the US), then what's to stop the arabs from outspending. How is Israel supposed to defend their position because, as you say once again, Israel has no leverage. There is nothing of value to offer the US.
Once again, go ahead and speak out. I didn't say not to. I said it's not going away so you need to find a way to deal with it instead of incessantly whining about it. It accomplishes nothing.
As I'd said, it is but one example. ]Israel is credited with developing the Iron Dome. And you can be sure they have more.
More rubbish and anti-Semitic tropes of Jews controlling everything. The oil-rich arabs have enough money to make these greedy politicians change allegiances faster than Bob Menendez collects gold bars.
Money talks. The Arabs don't care enough to bother spending it to help the Palis. Golf, soccer and motor sports appeal to them more. They probably spend $50B a year on just those.
Your claims of reality are actually fantasy. Arab money can sway them the other way. but the arab nations don't give a fuck about the Palestinians and even less so terrorist Hamas.
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Kind of like this
Pro-Israel US groups plan $100m effort to unseat progressives over Gaza
Aipac and other groups targeting candidates critical of Israel’s war in Gaza – but progressives are not going down without a fight
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Campus encampments are springing up everywhere. There is no going back
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'Campuses in revolt': Columbia-like encampments emerge at US universities
Encampments were started at Yale, the University of Michigan, New York University, The New School, Tufts University, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Emerson College, and Rutgers University.
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You’re talking to a guy who basically said that israel could send Daniel Craig to Qatar to take out Hamas but chose not to do so because that would not be bloodthirsty enough. Sanity has left that building long ago.
(I’m trying to be disciplined lately and not open any vomit from team hamas that I have on ignore but I still see what you post )
Elise Stefanik, all NY House GOP lawmakers demand Columbia President Minouche Shafik resign immediately
House Republican conference chairwoman Elise Stefanik and every New York GOP House lawmaker demanded on Monday that Columbia president Minouche Shafik resign immediately for failing to crack down o…
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NEW: Ilhan Omar’s daughter Isra Hirsi says she is now homeless and hungry after being suspended from school for her anti-Israel protests. FAFO. Hirsi says her school, Bernard College, just threw all her stuff in an empty lot. “I was a little bit frantic, like, where am I going to sleep? Where am I gonna go? And also all of my s**t is thrown in a random lot. It's pretty horrible,” she said to Teen Vogue. “I don’t know when I can go home, and I don’t know if I will ever be able to.” “I sent them an email: ‘Hey, I rely on campus for my meals, I rely on my dining plan,’ and they were like, ‘Oh, you can come pick up a prepackaged bag of food,’ a full 48 hours after I was suspended.” “There was no food support, no nothing.” Hirsi says she will remain homeless until her school’s hearing.
