Poor FFS.
what else would you expect a union to say or do. Given your lack of knowledge on everything makes you the perfect tool to put pressure on Queens Park
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what else would you expect a union to say or do. Given your lack of knowledge on everything makes you the perfect tool to put pressure on Queens Park
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John... wake up and smell the coffee!!!
What you consider a threat others consider B-A-R-G-A-I-N-I-N-G
Skooby and John... isn't it funny how an agreement was met with NO THREATS OR HOSTAGE TAKING SITUTIONS when the government offered salaries that would be determined by an ar·bi·tra·tor.
Hmmmmm.......
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Regent Park community health care workers rally as strike deadline looms
Toronto, ON — Ahead of an imminent strike deadline of 12:01 a.m. on Friday, March 22, Regent Park Community Health Centre (RPCHC) workers rallied Tuesday with a crowd of community members and allies to demand a fair deal for workers and the patients they support. These workers – members of...opseu.org
Strike vote information for PDSB education workers: Local 2100
We’re holding an online strike vote on November 28, 29 and 30! Every OPSEU/SEFPO Local 2100 member is eligible to vote, including permanent, casual and LTO staff. An overwhelming YES vote will send a strong message to the employer that you and your co-workers are ready to strike if necessary...
Ontario’s college faculty and staff reached a deal before strike deadline. Here are the latest updates - The Globe and Mail
Union members were planning to walk out as early as this Friday, suspending classes at Ontario public colleges such as Niagara and St. Lawrencewww.theglobeandmail.com
CUPE Ontario salutes Cancel the Cuts campaigners and their victory for pension fairness
CUPE Ontario is marking the end of 2023 with a shout-out to the determined CUPE members who belong to the OMERS (Ontario Municipal Employees Retirement System) pension plan: this year, these members ran a successful campaign, Cancel the Cuts, and their activism has ensured that no reductions...cupe.ca
Sheridan College collective bargaining information
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Two questions.
if you’ve bothered to read the Drummond report and train wreck in Ontario. When he speaks of pressure multiple times. What pressure do you think he is referring to?
If they are oh so important and critical. Why aren’t they an essential service?
And you know what? Excluding legislated 1% that prevented bargaining for a little more, in return for something. You know BRAGAIN, BARGAIN BARGAIN BARGAIN BARGAIN
….new contracts which are about ALOT more than just wages were bargained and signed. And those things that aren’t bargained and agreed to.
ARBITRATION settles it. Which historically on the matter wage increases almost always favours the workers. Maybe not the moon they want…but in their favour.
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"Bargaining" in union-speak means asking for way more than you are entitled to because your union has convinced you that everyone else has it way better than you do.
"Bargaining" in union "negotiations" means keeping kids at home and not in school for as long as it takes so that the public puts pressure on the government to settle and students/parents suffer in the meantime.
"Bargaining" from a union's perspective is making demands that far exceed reality so that negotiations come to a stand-still and an arbitrator is brought in to get what they actually really wanted in the first place.
I think it's time to get rid of these public sector unions so we don't fool ourselves into thinking there is actual bargaining going on here while it's really disguised extortion.
Skoob, you forgot playing violins and fear mongering in the public domain for even more pressure..Way more than FFs fall for it, hook line and sinker.
And why is the office in charge of the democratic process still looking at this with concern since McGuinty? I wonder why.
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You? The unaware and ill informed public?
The union?
The province?
See the train wreck you helped create and the Drummond report.
It's the dance...Skoob, you forgot playing violins and fear mongering in the public domain for even more pressure..Way more than FFs fall for it, hook line and sinker.
And why is the office in charge of the democratic process still looking at this with concern since McGuinty? I wonder why.
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Unions start beating the war drums ahead of contract negotiations and start their usual diatribe to gain public support and to scare people into thinking their services will be affected if a strike happens.
Politicians need to make it look like they are fiercely protecting the public purse and unions know this.
So they drag out negotiations on both sides sometimes right up to the last minute. This all happens in private. Each side accusing the other of not "coming to the table", etc.
Then magically, behind closed doors and away from the public and union membership's view, a deal is magically struck and only tidbits are revealed to the public afterwards.
It's like the classic fake fight where two people "make it look good".
I say we get rid of this whole charade and scrap these public sector unions altogether. No mess, no fuss.
You don't think people should make a living wage for full time work, to be able to afford housing, food and shelter?
You think you should be able to tell them how much they should be paid for their jobs?
How much do you think they should be paid?
You said a living wage...do teachers make a living wage and can they afford food? Or much more than that?
I'm using your statement here...no need to distract.
This is your claim, not mine.
How much do you think teachers are entitled to make?
You said:
" You don't think people should make a living wage for full time work, to be able to afford housing, food and shelter? " when I mentioned public sector workers.
So? You think public sector workers don't earn a living wage?
I'm using your own terminology here...please explain.
You were the one that brought up teachers.
How much do you think teachers are 'entitled' to make for doing their jobs?
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I have NOT read the full report but I'm assuming that the term pressure is referring to the financial situation that Ontario was in, in 2012
Great question NGY. If we refer to page 221 of the Drummond Report (which is from 2012 so it's a bit outdated but that's besides the point) the impact that education has on Ontario's future has not and will never change:
"Since their development in the mid-19th century, publicly funded schools have been a cornerstone of Ontario’s public services. With the rise of the knowledge economy, a strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness. The importance of a strong foundation through education and the progress made in Ontario’s education system in recent years must be kept in mind when considering how to meet Ontario’s fiscal challenges."
It's obvious that education is critical to Ontario's success. It's too bad that the government didn't pass legislation that recognized education as an essential service.
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I have NOT read the full report but I'm assuming that the term pressure is referring to the financial situation that Ontario was in, in 2012
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Great question NGY. If we refer to page 221 of the Drummond Report (which is from 2012 so it's a bit outdated but that's besides the point) the impact that education has on Ontario's future has not and will never change:
"Since their development in the mid-19th century, publicly funded schools have been a cornerstone of Ontario’s public services. With the rise of the knowledge economy, a strong education system is MORE CRITICAL than ever to Ontario’s prosperity and global competitiveness. The importance of a strong foundation through education and the progress made in Ontario’s education system in recent years must be kept in mind when considering how to meet Ontario’s fiscal challenges."
It's obvious that education is critical to Ontario's success. It's too bad that the government didn't pass legislation that recognized education as an essential service.
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Hey Skooby,
That's a great idea man. Let pass legislation that gets rid of public sector unions.
And while we're at it, let's pass legislation that gets rid of the Ontario's debt so that we can all enjoy life man!!!
"Bargaining" in union-speak means asking for way more than you are entitled to because your union has convinced you that everyone else has it way better than you do."
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A union is an organization formed by workers who join together and use their strength to have a voice in their workplace. Through their union, workers have the ability to negotiate from a position of strength with employers over wages, benefits, workplace health and safety, job training and other work-related issues.
"Bargaining" in union "negotiations" means keeping kids at home and not in school for as long as it takes so that the public puts pressure on the government to settle and students/parents suffer in the meantime.
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A union is an organization formed by workers who join together and use their strength to have a voice in their workplace. Through their union, workers have the ability to negotiate from a position of strength with employers over wages, benefits, workplace health and safety, job training and other work-related issues.
"Bargaining" from a union's perspective is making demands that far exceed reality so that negotiations come to a stand-still and an arbitrator is brought in to get what they actually really wanted in the first place.
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A union is an organization formed by workers who join together and use their strength to have a voice in their workplace. Through their union, workers have the ability to negotiate from a position of strength with employers over wages, benefits, workplace health and safety, job training and other work-related issues.
