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Authorities Destroy Over 30 Baha'i Graves At Mass Site In Tehran

Iranian authorities have demolished more than 30 graves belonging to the Baha'i community at a mass gravesite in Tehran this week as oppression of the minority continues.

The act, which involved the removal of grave markers and the flattening of resting places using bulldozers, was slammed by rights activists, the latest in a series of actions taken against the community which has been systematically targeted since the founding of the Islamic Republic in 1979.

Simin Fahandej, Representative of the Baha'i International Community to the United Nations in Geneva, said, “In the last few months, the deceased loved ones of the Baha’is have been forcibly buried by government agents in the Khavaran mass grave site, further desecrating a burial place sacred to many.

"Now these same new graves have been destroyed. It is clear that this was always their plan. All Iranians are weighed down by unprecedented social and economic challenges, and amid this general suffering, Baha’is have been targeted by intensified and brutal new tactics in the Iranian government’s persecution of its community".

Before the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Tehran's Baha'i community owned two large cemeteries, both of which were confiscated by the Islamic Republic in the 1980s. Thousands of graves were demolished at the Khavaran cemetery, and the Baha'is were given limited access to a smaller property known as Golestan Javid. However, Ministry of Intelligence agents took over Golestan Javid in 2021, making it increasingly difficult for Baha'is to use their own cemetery.

Unofficial estimates suggest that more than 300,000 Baha'i people live in Iran. However, the Constitution officially acknowledges only Islam, Christianity, Judaism, and Zoroastrianism, thereby rendering Baha'is the most significant non-Muslim religious minority in the country.

 

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Is that supposed to be a rebuttal.. That is usually the answer when one has no rebuttal.
No, that’s a response to a claim, which is all you made. Your claim is a common fairytale among Zionists. You provided no evidence that needed rebuttal. We both know you can’t.
 
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Authorities Destroy Over 30 Baha'i Graves At Mass Site In Tehran

Iranian authorities have demolished more than 30 graves belonging to the Baha'i community at a mass gravesite in Tehran this week as oppression of the minority continues.

The act, which involved the removal of grave markers and the flattening of resting places using bulldozers, was slammed by rights activists, the latest in a series of actions taken against the community which has been systematically targeted since the founding of the Islamic Republic in 1979.

Simin Fahandej, Representative of the Baha'i International Community to the United Nations in Geneva, said, “In the last few months, the deceased loved ones of the Baha’is have been forcibly buried by government agents in the Khavaran mass grave site, further desecrating a burial place sacred to many.

"Now these same new graves have been destroyed. It is clear that this was always their plan. All Iranians are weighed down by unprecedented social and economic challenges, and amid this general suffering, Baha’is have been targeted by intensified and brutal new tactics in the Iranian government’s persecution of its community".

Before the 1979 Islamic Revolution, Tehran's Baha'i community owned two large cemeteries, both of which were confiscated by the Islamic Republic in the 1980s. Thousands of graves were demolished at the Khavaran cemetery, and the Baha'is were given limited access to a smaller property known as Golestan Javid. However, Ministry of Intelligence agents took over Golestan Javid in 2021, making it increasingly difficult for Baha'is to use their own cemetery.

Unofficial estimates suggest that more than 300,000 Baha'i people live in Iran. However, the Constitution officially acknowledges only Islam, Christianity, Judaism, and Zoroastrianism, thereby rendering Baha'is the most significant non-Muslim religious minority in the country.

You think 30 is bad? How about 2000?


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You are right. It’s the evidence that makes it so.
I’ll wager money more Britains protested with their feet…and lives during WWWii. And while there is no way to know and only speculation, I wonder how many in that crowd are 2nd- 3rd generation Brits or can’t vote.
 
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shack

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Here you go. Eat crow.

As reported by AP, CBC, Wall Street Journal, New York Times etc.:
UN finds 'convincing information' backing reports Hamas and other militants raped women on Oct. 7 | CBC News
UN: 'Reasonable grounds to believe' rapes occurred in Hamas attack in Israel : NPR
UN Finds Evidence Hamas Committed Sexual Violence Since Oct. 7 - Bloomberg
UN sexual violence envoy: Israelis were raped, sexually tortured on 10/7 - The Jerusalem Post (jpost.com)
'Reasonable grounds’ Hamas committed sexual violence on Oct. 7: UN | National Post
United Nations group finds Hamas committed sexual violence on Oct. 7 | The Hill
The UN's own news source: ‘Clear and convincing information’ that hostages held in Gaza subjected to sexual violence says UN Special Representative | UN News
Israeli rape crisis centres demand UN action over Oct. 7 attacks | Reuters

You have egg on your face once again.

Here's a chance for you to show some honour, integrity a modicum of decency. For once be a mensch You need to apologize and admit that you were wrong.

In the face of such overwhelming and universally accepted evidence, if you continue to lie about the rape and sexual violence perpetrated on Oct.7, I do not know how that could be considered anything other than egregious hate speech.

No response so far. What's the matter? Hamas got your tongue? Or is it buried too far up their asses?

You need to comment.
Yes, shack, we've been over this.

Two points:
1) we can discuss this report if you agree all UN reports should be respected and acted on
2) we can discuss her role and whether she did any investigation or just repeated IDF talking points

But you have to agree to 1) first.
#1 first? #1is stupid. No person, party or entity is always right or always wrong. Each incidence needs to be evaluated on its' own merits. Except for you. You are always correct and left wing dogma is always correct.

You read the report. No conditions are required. Do you agree of disagree with this report. Or are you, once again, going to hide under the covers. No honour, no integrity, no conviction, no ability to tell the truth. It's ok if you don't answer. It is obvious that you know the report is accurate but you are too chickenshit to admit it.

Do you or do you not believe that this UN report is correct. No answer means that you admit the report is accurate.
 

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2) Posting different news agencies reporting on the same, single report does not make your case any stronger.
Of course it does. All reputable news sources verify their sources before reporting unlike Al-Jizzonya.
 

shack

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If you want this report to be taken seriously then you also need to support every other report on Israel/Palestine by the UN seriously.
Which means you have to agree Israel is apartheid and the occupation is illegal before this one is even discussed.

Do you agree that Israel is apartheid and the occupation is illegal, as reported by the UN?
Nobody is always correct.
It's a stoopid condition.
 

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Do you or do you not believe that this UN report is correct. No answer means that you admit the report is accurate.
Yes, I believe this UN report is correct.
Do you believe UN reports or not?

 

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Of course it does. All reputable news sources verify their sources before reporting unlike Al-Jizzonya.
So you now believe UN reports are trustworthy.
Great.

 

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So you think that just continuing to repeat a phrase makes it so. Speaking only for myself your hyperbolic rhetoric only make your position and argument less compelling.
Showing a video of people on the bridge doesn't make them majority...most are working or at home....supporting the right of Israel to defend themselves....
 
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