Pro Hamas in the west - and their adventures

Leimonis

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It's because Frankie sees the conflict in terms of slogans that he learned from his politically correct "anti colonialist discussion group".

So he has to recite "settler colonialism", "genocide" and "racism" in every post he writes - because those are the big leftie discussion group buzzwords right now. Everything that actually happens in the real world has to be "re interpreted" to fit into his leftist discussion group analytical framework.
It’s like lefties see MAGA and go “hold my beer”
 

Valcazar

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I am really trying to understand if you and Klatuu really believe this because it is really hard for me to believe that and rational being could. I do not mean criticizing Israel and condemning the deaths and violence etc.. it is the outlandish hyperbolic claims that that the 2 of you make.
I'm also somewhat interested what they mean by "Zionism", since like any label that has been around that long, there are many forms of it.
 

Frankfooter

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And of course that definition would not fit what is going on in Gaza. It is clear that way too many people have been killed and Netanyahu has gone way too far and should be condemned. But that does not mean that this is an example of genocide expect in your calculated way intended to create maximum outrage against Israel and Jews. And it is working but your argument would be more compelling, at least to me , if you dealt with reality instead of hyperbole.
Tell that to the ICJ, where Israel will stand trial for genocide.
Israel has killed, injured or disappeared 5% of the population in 5 months, destroyed 80% of housing, all schools, all mosques and most hospitals.
500,000 are at risk of starvation or death by disease right now.

Genocide is an accurate description of Israel's goals and activities.

 
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basketcase

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The land they are selling is in Occupied Palestine.
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Considering you've repeatedly said you think all of Israel is occupied (your 75 year claims), I guess you're being consistent.

I know reading anything not on twitter isn't your thing but the event was LEARNING how to buy land in Israel. It wasn't actually selling land. And more significantly, you keep pretending to be in favour of equal rights so why is it you're so upset at the possibility of Jews buying land?

As I said, pretty much anyone can buy land in Israel. You can, I can, Abbas can (he's unlikely to get residency though because of his past actions). But reality doesn't fit your agenda so instead you complain Jews might buy land.
 
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Were any of those a campaign of death against a people?
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Yes. That's why all sides in WWII were so willing to bomb the shit out of cities and starve the enemy population.

This case isn't unless are trying to argue that Hamas is a protected group.
 

Frankfooter

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It's because Frankie sees the conflict in terms of slogans that he learned from his politically correct "anti colonialist discussion group".

So he has to recite "settler colonialism", "genocide" and "racism" in every post he writes - because those are the big leftie discussion group buzzwords right now. Everything that actually happens in the real world has to be "re interpreted" to fit into his leftist discussion group analytical framework.
The ICJ will try Israel for genocide, not for a 'slogan'.
Israel calls the people they move into occupied Palestine 'settlers' who live in 'settlements', you can't get more blatantly colonial.
Nor can you get any more racist than apartheid and genocide.

What is shocking is that people still try to convince themselves that its 'slogans', or 'left wingers'.

 

basketcase

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It's because Frankie sees the conflict in terms of slogans that he learned from his politically correct "anti colonialist discussion group".
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While ignoring that Canada is the definition of a colonial genocide because he's comfortable living as a settler here.
 

Frankfooter

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I'm also somewhat interested what they mean by "Zionism", since like any label that has been around that long, there are many forms of it.
Zionism is foreign colonial movement based on racial supremacy.
Its very slogan 'a land without people for a people without land' ignores the indigenous population and assumes biblical ownership.

Right from the start.
 
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basketcase

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Tell that to the ICJ, where Israel will stand trial for genocide.
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Wasn't that his initial point? There will be a case going on at the ICJ but you keep telling us they have ruled it a genocide.

Meanwhile you ignore that they and the ICC have said Hamas' use of hostages as negotiating pieces is illegal and have demanded they be released immediately and unconditionally.
 
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Frankfooter

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Considering you've repeatedly said you think all of Israel is occupied (your 75 year claims), I guess you're being consistent.

I know reading anything not on twitter isn't your thing but the event was LEARNING how to buy land in Israel. It wasn't actually selling land. And more significantly, you keep pretending to be in favour of equal rights so why is it you're so upset at the possibility of Jews buying land?

As I said, pretty much anyone can buy land in Israel. You can, I can, Abbas can (he's unlikely to get residency though because of his past actions). But reality doesn't fit your agenda so instead you complain Jews might buy land.
Buying land in the Occupied Palestinian Territories is a war crime.
Holding a conference on 'how to' learn to buy illegally occupied land is still a war crime.
Holding in a synagog and then claiming its 'antisemitic' to protest it because its in a synagog is itself an antisemitic trope that tries to both claim its a religious right to take Palestinian land and that all Jews support this.

What this really does is show that you have never supported the two state solution and your every post here is in defence of apartheid and genocide now.

 
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Frankfooter

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Wasn't that his initial point? There will be a case going on at the ICJ but you keep telling us they have ruled it a genocide.

Meanwhile you ignore that they and the ICC have said Hamas' use of hostages as negotiating pieces is illegal and have demanded they be released immediately and unconditionally.
Yes, the court will have to rule before they can issue a verdict that Israel is committing genocide.
I can see the evidence, like a billion other people, and see that what is happening is genocide.

You claim to support the UN but also support torturing UN staff to gain confessions used to starve Palestinians to death.
 
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Frankfooter

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Too stupid to realize that you're admitting you are a colonizing settler?
Are you to stupid to realize that we give our indigenous peoples full human rights, including the vote?
We don't wall them into concentration camps then bomb them to death when the rebel.

If Canada banned the UNRWA based of allegations that 12 UN workers took part in oct 7, we should blacklist and sanction Israel for having 12 IDF members torture UN workers.

 
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basketcase

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Still waiting to see Frank criticize Hamas for rejecting yet another ceasefire.

The US, Qatar, Egypt, and France arranged a ceasefire and Israel agreed. Hamas is refusing during continuing conflict between the Qatari based leadership and Sinwar in Gaza with Sinwar seemingly wanting a Ramadan full of violence.

 

basketcase

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Are you to stupid to realize that we give our indigenous peoples full human rights, including the vote?
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Another fake clown who ignores the way we all benefit from the genocide and continued oppression of Canada's indigenous while promoting that a country where Arab Jews make up half the population be ethnically cleansed.

Just like everything else with you fake human right supporters, you close your mouth when it makes your life slightly more inconvenient.
 

basketcase

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Yes, the court will have to rule before they can issue a verdict that Israel is committing genocide.
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Thanks for admitting your moronic attempts to claim the courts ruled while also admitting they haven't.

No comment on the ICC and ICJ demanding an immediate release of Hamas' hostages?
 

basketcase

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Buying land in the Occupied Palestinian Territories is a war crime.
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Is it? I know you don't want to accept it but the real estate advice seminar was open to anyone including Palestinian Canadians who also could buy land in Israel. And you are an outright fraud because you keep claiming all of Israel is "occupied" so you are openly admitting you think it is wrong for Jews to buy land inside Green Line Israel.

Are you going to join Hamas, the PA, and Jordan calling it a capital offence to sell land to Jews?


p.s. the fact that you keep quoting a disgusting anti-semite who openly admits she thinks Jews have subjugated America says a lot about you.
 
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