I didn’t read the Bill of course but how long before they use this bill to shut down sites like LL and TERB? And any other agency site out there.
Anyone worried about the “Online Harms Act” introduced …..
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terb is not hosted in Canada already, so unless the feds are going to get all providers to block sites I don't think that can change.
Not sure about LL.
Not sure about LL.
Could this affect TERB?
Online harms bill coming next week, PM says; promises focus on kids, not censorship (thestar.com)
Organizations like the National Council of Canadian Muslims also expressed worries that efforts to target terrorism-related online content could disproportionately affect their members.
Jewish advocacy groups have also called for the legislation amid a spike in antisemitic and other hateful rhetoric online in the wake of the Israel-Hamas war.
Why would muslim organizations be against this but Jewish groups for it? I believe the platform would have 24 hours to remove any offending posts. I'm sure for its' own protection TERB would probably ban any posters that it deems would put the board at risk. TERB already has rules against hate speech.
Online harms bill coming next week, PM says; promises focus on kids, not censorship (thestar.com)
Organizations like the National Council of Canadian Muslims also expressed worries that efforts to target terrorism-related online content could disproportionately affect their members.
Jewish advocacy groups have also called for the legislation amid a spike in antisemitic and other hateful rhetoric online in the wake of the Israel-Hamas war.
Why would muslim organizations be against this but Jewish groups for it? I believe the platform would have 24 hours to remove any offending posts. I'm sure for its' own protection TERB would probably ban any posters that it deems would put the board at risk. TERB already has rules against hate speech.
Muslims are worried because of the Islamaphobia that has people supporting genocide.
Do you think supporting genocide is hate speech, shack?
That makes no sense. This should help prevent Islamophobes from spewing hate speech. That's why the Jews are for it, to help eliminate anti-Semitic hate speech. One would think that both sides should be in favor of reducing hateful rhetoric. Aren't you in favour of that?
Maybe one side is more prone to this type of rhetoric than the other. Maybe one side is weaponizing their rhetoric. Of course I'm not making any accusations. I'm simply speculating.
I think making unsubstantiated claims of things like genocide or posting fake pictures with the intent of demonizing a particular race or religion etc. might fit the definition as it pertains to this measure.
It almost sounds like you are against this legislation. If so, why.
Absolutely. For two reasons. The first is your concern however this MAY fall under 'generic' porn and thus will likely to continue. The second concern is that the definition of "Hate" speech is ever changing and getting more political. I can see this being used as a political hammer to suppress discussions on things that should be discussed.
Bingo...They're going right after free speech just like we thought they would.
Nah, just speech they don't like. It boggles my mind that people just can't see how these laws can easily be turned against them.
So basically they're going to push a bunch of hidden agendas under the guise of child online safety, not to mention some of these policies already exist in law.
Cool, can't wait.
Cool, can't wait.
I agree.
One side is presently committing genocide, that is as far as you can weaponize racism.
Israel’s war on Gaza live: Thousands could die in days as Israel blocks aid
- The UN humanitarian agency, OCHA, says humanitarian organisations are being “systemically denied access” to north and south Gaza and that humanitarian aid convoys are coming under fire.
- A senior UN humanitarian aid official has said that one-quarter of Gaza’s population – estimated to be at least 576,000 people – is a step away from famine.
Tell that to the ICJ.
If you can get them to close the file you have an argument.
Until then, Israel is going on trial for genocide, the evidence is overwhelming and most people around the world think zionism = genocide.
In which case, the people defending genocide are the most evil and racist that you can get as a human.
Supporters of genocide should all be banned.
Feel free to bring in the mods and see if they think backing genocide is a reason to ban people.
Aid groups ‘systemically denied access’ to areas of Gaza, says UN
The UN humanitarian agency, OCHA, says aid organisations “have been unable to reach northern Gaza and increasingly parts of southern Gaza safely”.
It said the organisations had been unable to deliver aid because:
- their “aid convoys have come under fire”.
- they have been “systematically denied access to people in need”.
And none of that has anything to do with my question.
Why would muslim organizations be against a law that will decrease hate speech/Islamophobic rhetoric? It doesn't make sense.
We don’t know if TERB is hosted in Canada. The domain is not Canadian but even that can registered with a Canadian registrar.
Also / will they make Rogers\Bell block it. We know the power to geo-block is available.
LL is canadian from my understanding.
My site is hosted and registered in Switzerland …. I have no idea but I suspect many are not like mine. Most are GoDaddy hosted most likely.
From what I have read about the act, I can’t see any part that would target TERB, LL or other escort related site. The only remote way I could see it used against escort advertising sites is if trafficking is involved.
It seems to be targeted more at hate speech, revenge porn, sextortion and child abuse online.
Note that this bill is different than the senate bill that is proposing to require age verification for adult sites among other measures. That is a proposed bill put together by a number of senators, and I believe that the government has already said that they are not in favour.
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The bill has all kinds of power grabs in it, but hey, if he promises
What if they came here looking something sexually rated but by accident discover some hate speech? Maybe not likely, but still possible.
Or a negative review…. I mean to us is sounds stupid but stupid people are in power.
I think you have too much faith in humanity. They've already demonstrated they can define hate speech to be whatever they disagree with. All they have to do is claim engagement in the industry is hateful to women, and they can use the law to go after those who do engage with it.
How do you think the politicians, foreign staff in Ottawa figure out who to see? Terb will be fine.
Not so, the definition of hate speech I agree is overly broad, but it’s not “whatever they disagree with”.
“The Bill defines “hate speech” as the content of a communication that expresses detestation or vilification of an individual or group of individuals on the basis of prohibited grounds of discrimination.”
So review and discussion of services that sex workers provide could hardly be deemed hate speech.
I have seen discussion on how to get away with rape on this board. I have been given celebratory messages of my own sexual assaults openly posted in the lounge. Messages saying I deserved it, deserved the beatings I got from ex, etc. or “victim blaming by saying what do I expect for being an hooker”. All of it.
Would that not be considered hate speech. Hate against women, hate against sex workers. Something like that?
