This started in 2014 when the West supported the overthrow of the Ukrainian regime as part of an ongoing effort to expand Western influence. From a strategic perspective the Russians can not allow Ukraine to slip from their control. The eastern part of Ukraine (the part Russia has occupied) is the last choke point at which to contain an invasion from Europe; letting it fall into unfriendly hands would leave the approaches to Moscow wide open.Nonsense. This is a war that could have been avoided, but Ukraine and it Western handlers inisisted on it. The goal is to weaken Russia and inflcit a strategic defeat on Russia. Ukrainian blood is just an input into the whole evil enterpise. A civil war among Slavs, the untermensch of Europe.
Yeah ok Vivek, guess you bought the Twits spiel hook line and sinker.This started in 2014 when the West supported the overthrow of the Ukrainian regime as part of an ongoing effort to expand Western influence. From a strategic perspective the Russians can not allow Ukraine to slip from their control. The eastern part of Ukraine (the part Russia has occupied) is the last choke point at which to contain an invasion from Europe; letting it fall into unfriendly hands would leave the approaches to Moscow wide open.
What is truely worrying is the Russian - Chinese alliance that has formed due to attempts to isolate Russia; this alliance will cause us tremendous pain in the next few years. If we were smart we’d let Putin have the area he has already occupied and agree to turn the rest of Ukraine into a DMZ in exchange for an alliance against the Chinese.
Congrats Notty on Russia's big success in Avdiivka. Only took 10 years and 30,000 dead Russians to capture a town the size of Owen Sound.
This started in 2014 when the West supported the overthrow of the Ukrainian regime as part of an ongoing effort to expand Western influence. From a strategic perspective the Russians can not allow Ukraine to slip from their control. The eastern part of Ukraine (the part Russia has occupied) is the last choke point at which to contain an invasion from Europe; letting it fall into unfriendly hands would leave the approaches to Moscow wide open.
What is truely worrying is the Russian - Chinese alliance that has formed due to attempts to isolate Russia; this alliance will cause us tremendous pain in the next few years. If we were smart we’d let Putin have the area he has already occupied and agree to turn the rest of Ukraine into a DMZ in exchange for an alliance against the Chinese.
A choke point to thwart an invasion of Russia from Europe? You have got to be deluded.The eastern part of Ukraine (the part Russia has occupied) is the last choke point at which to contain an invasion from Europe; letting it fall into unfriendly hands would leave the approaches to Moscow wide open.
Most wars in history began as a war of invasion. And not
all conflicts ended in total victory on one side.
You really have no idea about what you're saying, do you?
Well any chance of Russia trusting the West is over. At best non-enmity.This started in 2014 when the West supported the overthrow of the Ukrainian regime as part of an ongoing effort to expand Western influence. From a strategic perspective the Russians can not allow Ukraine to slip from their control. The eastern part of Ukraine (the part Russia has occupied) is the last choke point at which to contain an invasion from Europe; letting it fall into unfriendly hands would leave the approaches to Moscow wide open.
What is truely worrying is the Russian - Chinese alliance that has formed due to attempts to isolate Russia; this alliance will cause us tremendous pain in the next few years. If we were smart we’d let Putin have the area he has already occupied and agree to turn the rest of Ukraine into a DMZ in exchange for an alliance against the Chinese.
Yeah I'd go with that thought.Of course it could have been avoided, had Russia stayed within it's borders. Are you mental or something???
Notaboy said:Sad though, young lads being drafted in England and the US and being sent off to die, some of them sure didn't want to go. If only Churchill and FDR just left that nice man Hitler alone. I mean sure he promised he was done after the Sudetenland and went after Poland, but some guys were killed at a radio station, he would lie about that, would he. Also if France and the UK minded their own business I am sure Heer Hitler would have stopped at Poland. OK OK, he said stuff in his book about Russia, but I mean, surely after that it would be over. But no, poor lads some of whom didn't want to go over ended up dying.
For that matter how dare FDR to all these embargo trying to force Japan to stop with China, should have gave them Hawaii and all the pacific territories. Rape of Nanking, nah, that's was just assertive seduction, everyone had a time, cake was served after.
Fucking clown shoes.
Wow, figure a Poutard would be a slavophile, I guess notA civil war among Slavs, the untermensch of Europe.
But no mention of what Hamas, Hezbolah and all those other groups do. But calls it terror when an army goes in to clear actual terrorists who hide behind their children, after attacking a country targing civilians for murder and hostage taking KNOWING that Israel would have to counter attack and KNOWING and PLANNING on getting their own people killed.Terror is what israel is doing to Pali babies and children. Now your baby killler champion Natanyahu says FUCK The ICJ which represents the entire world. And somehow you think I am "out there" lol.
Sure and if women would just consent, Bill Cosby wouldn't have to drug them.Yes that would have happened if Ukraine implemented the peace agreement they had signed and stopped killing people in the Donbas.
Using the same rational, O&G would have opposed the lend lease plans and the destroyers for bases [both of which started before Pearl Harbour]The Senate’s $95.3 Billion Handout
Blah blah blah
If Israel had pursued peace and not murdered the one PM that was serious about peace there would be no Hamas or Oct 7th. Not abiding by peace agreements = war. Is that a huge mental leap for you to get that?Sure and if women would just consent, Bill Cosby wouldn't have to drug them.
Whatever.
Also notice the double standard, Well not really. In both cases, his friends, Hamas and the Russians start something then he wines, bitches and moans when their fucking around results in them finding out.
Europe wants Russia like Egypt wants gaza.A choke point to thwart an invasion of Russia from Europe? You have got to be deluded.
Maybe pre-thousands upon thousands of Russian nuclear tipped missiles.
Do you really believe that your and their wholly fabricated and imagined, Godless and gay, European invading hordes a rumblin' and a thunderin' through eastern Ukraine towards a bloodthirsty conquest of Russia would not cause Russia to extinguish life on earth.
After all, Putin The Evil, did say that a world without Russia is a world that would not exist.