For those of you that want to fight to the last Ukranian

basketcase

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Congrats Notty on Russia's big success in Avdiivka. Only took 10 years and 30,000 dead Russians to capture a town the size of Owen Sound.
 

kherg007

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Only Russia can stop the war. They started it. They invaded. The Ukrainians are going to fight either way.
The title suggests one should capitulate to all invaders. Not sure of the logic.
 

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Ghawar
Most wars in history began as a war of invasion. And not
all conflicts ended in total victory on one side.
 

MarcoHardOnFire

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Nonsense. This is a war that could have been avoided, but Ukraine and it Western handlers inisisted on it. The goal is to weaken Russia and inflcit a strategic defeat on Russia. Ukrainian blood is just an input into the whole evil enterpise. A civil war among Slavs, the untermensch of Europe.
This started in 2014 when the West supported the overthrow of the Ukrainian regime as part of an ongoing effort to expand Western influence. From a strategic perspective the Russians can not allow Ukraine to slip from their control. The eastern part of Ukraine (the part Russia has occupied) is the last choke point at which to contain an invasion from Europe; letting it fall into unfriendly hands would leave the approaches to Moscow wide open.

What is truely worrying is the Russian - Chinese alliance that has formed due to attempts to isolate Russia; this alliance will cause us tremendous pain in the next few years. If we were smart we’d let Putin have the area he has already occupied and agree to turn the rest of Ukraine into a DMZ in exchange for an alliance against the Chinese.
 

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This started in 2014 when the West supported the overthrow of the Ukrainian regime as part of an ongoing effort to expand Western influence. From a strategic perspective the Russians can not allow Ukraine to slip from their control. The eastern part of Ukraine (the part Russia has occupied) is the last choke point at which to contain an invasion from Europe; letting it fall into unfriendly hands would leave the approaches to Moscow wide open.

What is truely worrying is the Russian - Chinese alliance that has formed due to attempts to isolate Russia; this alliance will cause us tremendous pain in the next few years. If we were smart we’d let Putin have the area he has already occupied and agree to turn the rest of Ukraine into a DMZ in exchange for an alliance against the Chinese.
Yeah ok Vivek, guess you bought the Twits spiel hook line and sinker.

 

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Congrats Notty on Russia's big success in Avdiivka. Only took 10 years and 30,000 dead Russians to capture a town the size of Owen Sound.

And congrats on the many Russian 'nottyboi's' and nottykrafts being promoted to Submariner duties! From a country without a Navy. Russia is indeed a big oaf of a bully with lots of muscle and mass... but ONE Uke on Snake Island told the Russian Flagship Moskva to "Go Fuck Yourself, Russian Warship". Or more accurately, as Kaptain Nottyboi would know, translated literally was "Go sit on a dick'! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russi...On 7 March 2022, the,ship, go fuck yourself."



All while being powered by and spewing slimy Russian oil and putrid gas!
 
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SchlongConery

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This started in 2014 when the West supported the overthrow of the Ukrainian regime as part of an ongoing effort to expand Western influence. From a strategic perspective the Russians can not allow Ukraine to slip from their control. The eastern part of Ukraine (the part Russia has occupied) is the last choke point at which to contain an invasion from Europe; letting it fall into unfriendly hands would leave the approaches to Moscow wide open.

What is truely worrying is the Russian - Chinese alliance that has formed due to attempts to isolate Russia; this alliance will cause us tremendous pain in the next few years. If we were smart we’d let Putin have the area he has already occupied and agree to turn the rest of Ukraine into a DMZ in exchange for an alliance against the Chinese.

Except Russia is not trustworthy. Full stop. You'd be an idiot to enter into any agreement or treaty with them. Russians regard negotiations as an opportunity to take advantage of weakness and to prepare more steps ahead than 'The West' can even comprehend.

I laugh at all these conspiracy theories about western this and that. The West simply does not look that far ahead and loves to argue amongst each other. Ostensibly about some greater good but ultimately it's all about individual enrichment of some sort. No fucking way these imagined conspiracies can hold up among westerners. They talk too much and eventually the whole plan falls apart.

Bikers have wisdom in their saying; 'The only way three people can keep a secret is if two of them are dead.'
 

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The eastern part of Ukraine (the part Russia has occupied) is the last choke point at which to contain an invasion from Europe; letting it fall into unfriendly hands would leave the approaches to Moscow wide open.
A choke point to thwart an invasion of Russia from Europe? You have got to be deluded.

Maybe pre-thousands upon thousands of Russian nuclear tipped missiles.

Do you really believe that your and their wholly fabricated and imagined, Godless and gay, European invading hordes a rumblin' and a thunderin' through eastern Ukraine towards a bloodthirsty conquest of Russia would not cause Russia to extinguish life on earth.

After all, Putin The Evil, did say that a world without Russia is a world that would not exist.
 
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mandrill

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Most wars in history began as a war of invasion. And not
all conflicts ended in total victory on one side.
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You really have no idea about what you're saying, do you?
 

SchlongConery

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You really have no idea about what you're saying, do you?

He's like Russia.

Spewing nonsense to sow seeds of confusion. Double talk with what they think others might respect as plausible deniability at best, and intellectual discourse at laughably worst.

Like Russia. A joke bleating for respect they think they deserve.
 
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This started in 2014 when the West supported the overthrow of the Ukrainian regime as part of an ongoing effort to expand Western influence. From a strategic perspective the Russians can not allow Ukraine to slip from their control. The eastern part of Ukraine (the part Russia has occupied) is the last choke point at which to contain an invasion from Europe; letting it fall into unfriendly hands would leave the approaches to Moscow wide open.

What is truely worrying is the Russian - Chinese alliance that has formed due to attempts to isolate Russia; this alliance will cause us tremendous pain in the next few years. If we were smart we’d let Putin have the area he has already occupied and agree to turn the rest of Ukraine into a DMZ in exchange for an alliance against the Chinese.
Well any chance of Russia trusting the West is over. At best non-enmity.
 

NotADcotor

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Of course it could have been avoided, had Russia stayed within it's borders. Are you mental or something🤪???
Yeah I'd go with that thought.

Notaboy said:
Sad though, young lads being drafted in England and the US and being sent off to die, some of them sure didn't want to go. If only Churchill and FDR just left that nice man Hitler alone. I mean sure he promised he was done after the Sudetenland and went after Poland, but some guys were killed at a radio station, he would lie about that, would he. Also if France and the UK minded their own business I am sure Heer Hitler would have stopped at Poland. OK OK, he said stuff in his book about Russia, but I mean, surely after that it would be over. But no, poor lads some of whom didn't want to go over ended up dying.
For that matter how dare FDR to all these embargo trying to force Japan to stop with China, should have gave them Hawaii and all the pacific territories. Rape of Nanking, nah, that's was just assertive seduction, everyone had a time, cake was served after.
Fucking clown shoes.
 

NotADcotor

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Terror is what israel is doing to Pali babies and children. Now your baby killler champion Natanyahu says FUCK The ICJ which represents the entire world. And somehow you think I am "out there" lol.
But no mention of what Hamas, Hezbolah and all those other groups do. But calls it terror when an army goes in to clear actual terrorists who hide behind their children, after attacking a country targing civilians for murder and hostage taking KNOWING that Israel would have to counter attack and KNOWING and PLANNING on getting their own people killed.

Some people really need to be banned from civil discourse. Vaccination deniers, Flat Earthers, Trump actually won the election. There should be some requirement to have at least a tenuous grasp on reality.

Oh I'm sorry, they think terrorism is justified because Israel occupied Palestinian lands, that justifies river to sea genocide. Odd that, no calls for the extermination of Jordanians and Egyptians when they owned the West Bank and Gaza. I'd bet you dollars to donuts that if Israel held on to the Suez, they would be all derka derka jihad jihad about how it's properly Palestinian. Anything Jewish bad. If Paul Bernardo was doing his shit to support Hamas against Jewish children, sacks of shit like Notaboy and Frankie would be like "fuck yeah, death to Israel, death to the Jews" Fucking human garbage. How long as this bullshit being going on and being called out and yet the rules vs hate mongering are not being enforced. I'd report it, but I'd had previous and very clear violations I've reported get ignored so, why bother.
 
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NotADcotor

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Yes that would have happened if Ukraine implemented the peace agreement they had signed and stopped killing people in the Donbas.
Sure and if women would just consent, Bill Cosby wouldn't have to drug them.

Whatever.

Also notice the double standard, Well not really. In both cases, his friends, Hamas and the Russians start something then he wines, bitches and moans when their fucking around results in them finding out.
 

NotADcotor

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The Senate’s $95.3 Billion Handout
Blah blah blah
Using the same rational, O&G would have opposed the lend lease plans and the destroyers for bases [both of which started before Pearl Harbour]
He literally would have left France, Poland and the European Jews to their fate all in the name of "not sending money" and bitched about how the UK should just give up.

Terb, where literal pro nazis if you follow the chain of logic are allowed a voice.
As well as literal pro terrorists.
 

nottyboi

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Sure and if women would just consent, Bill Cosby wouldn't have to drug them.

Whatever.

Also notice the double standard, Well not really. In both cases, his friends, Hamas and the Russians start something then he wines, bitches and moans when their fucking around results in them finding out.
If Israel had pursued peace and not murdered the one PM that was serious about peace there would be no Hamas or Oct 7th. Not abiding by peace agreements = war. Is that a huge mental leap for you to get that? 🤣🙄
 

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A choke point to thwart an invasion of Russia from Europe? You have got to be deluded.

Maybe pre-thousands upon thousands of Russian nuclear tipped missiles.

Do you really believe that your and their wholly fabricated and imagined, Godless and gay, European invading hordes a rumblin' and a thunderin' through eastern Ukraine towards a bloodthirsty conquest of Russia would not cause Russia to extinguish life on earth.

After all, Putin The Evil, did say that a world without Russia is a world that would not exist.
Europe wants Russia like Egypt wants gaza.
Nobody wants to rule over disgusting indigenous people who are impossible to govern in a civilized way
 
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