Like on the SD/SB websites when the girls profile says, "...and I want to/expect to be treated like the princess I am". That's an automatic swipe left for me.These are also the women who consider each other "queen"....
Women with extremely high standards
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This isn’t true. Stop believing it and projecting Otherwise you will continuously be faced with women who think this way and challenge youAccording to them, you must be at least 6'5", work out and be in great shape, and be very wealthy.
Why do they ALWAYS look like this 🤦♂️
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I donno, I see plenty of women with men where I think "wtf" that guy a douche, or lazy, doesn't work hard etc
But people in general are more willing to stay single. I think the problem is people want someone at certain a level, but they aren't even attempting to get to that level as well.
I have a successful partner who makes over 6 figures, but I'm a law student who also makes good money, and I worked really hard to bring myself to a level that would make me more desirable to the type of partner I wanted
Then there's men with no ambition making less than 60k a year and not working towards promotions and think they deserve a woman who spends on average over 12k a year (averaging or large one time expenses that happen every few months like hair, botox, fillers) and countless hours on her appearance, has multiple degrees and a good job to appeal to a more desirable man.
We have an entitlement problem regardless of gender.
But as pointed about above, men use to need to just be mediocre to get a house wife, now you have to have a personality and treat women well too because they aren't reliant on you and so there's a bunch of men who watched their dads and grandpa's do shit but go to work and be assholes by had a woman still take care of them, and are expecting the same.
The flip side is the women who saw their moms and grandmas do everything around the house, raise the family and be treated like shit at best and abused at worst, and we said fuck that shit. We decided that if a man didn't bring xyz, tolerating that shit wasn't worth it. I stand on that for myself and spent large parts of my life happily single knowing what the alternative was if I settled.
And of course there are groups of women who think they can just be pretty and get everything they want, but imo at least they are doing something to make themselves more appealing even if it's not enough. Bcz if a woman was pretty but badly put together and clearly a slob, it wouldn't have the same effect on men.
At the end of day, there's people of all genders who think they don't need to work on themselves or develop a likeable personality, to deserve a quality partner those people will either need to adjust their standards, work on themselves or make peace with their decisions.
But what do I know, I'm in my 30s, my partner is in his 40s and the young people are scaring me tbh
But people in general are more willing to stay single. I think the problem is people want someone at certain a level, but they aren't even attempting to get to that level as well.
I have a successful partner who makes over 6 figures, but I'm a law student who also makes good money, and I worked really hard to bring myself to a level that would make me more desirable to the type of partner I wanted
Then there's men with no ambition making less than 60k a year and not working towards promotions and think they deserve a woman who spends on average over 12k a year (averaging or large one time expenses that happen every few months like hair, botox, fillers) and countless hours on her appearance, has multiple degrees and a good job to appeal to a more desirable man.
We have an entitlement problem regardless of gender.
But as pointed about above, men use to need to just be mediocre to get a house wife, now you have to have a personality and treat women well too because they aren't reliant on you and so there's a bunch of men who watched their dads and grandpa's do shit but go to work and be assholes by had a woman still take care of them, and are expecting the same.
The flip side is the women who saw their moms and grandmas do everything around the house, raise the family and be treated like shit at best and abused at worst, and we said fuck that shit. We decided that if a man didn't bring xyz, tolerating that shit wasn't worth it. I stand on that for myself and spent large parts of my life happily single knowing what the alternative was if I settled.
And of course there are groups of women who think they can just be pretty and get everything they want, but imo at least they are doing something to make themselves more appealing even if it's not enough. Bcz if a woman was pretty but badly put together and clearly a slob, it wouldn't have the same effect on men.
At the end of day, there's people of all genders who think they don't need to work on themselves or develop a likeable personality, to deserve a quality partner
those people will either need to adjust their standards, work on themselves or make peace with their decisions.But what do I know, I'm in my 30s, my partner is in his 40s and the young people are scaring me tbh
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People who legitimately are 'the cat's ass' don't need to toot their own horn. Their reputation is made by what other people say about them, when they're not around.
It's the dog whistles, I think any person with critical thinking can see the issue with alpha/beta, but I have a couple times heard someone who didn't seem the type say he was a "high value" man, and I was taken aback bcz it wasn't expected, and when I asked if they knew what that meant or where it came from they didn't.
They don't need to, but thinking people speaking of their accomplishments or the reputation they have is an indication that they don't have it, is not accurate. It depends on context, there are legitimate times for people to say they think they are doing well for themselves or that they are a good person etc but obviously if the person is saying one thing and people who know them are saying another, that's obviously an indication that they are full of it.
It's a slang that you guys are not used to hear that has nothing to do with the alphas ideology. It might not be associated to your culture but I wouldn't call Beyonce or Rihanna embarrassing or pathetic for using it. There is nothing wrong with empowering each other, in a good way. Not a condescending one. No women that call themselves queen means it in a way in which they belittle men or a group of people.
I don't understand where is this mentality, of being scared of successful people admitting they are successful is coming from. It's very quebecois. Let people celebrate their success and for the love of God, be happy for them.
Exactly, and it comes on both sides. What I have little respect for is those who expect so much from others and don't ATTEMPT to hold themselves to those same standards. I would rather have a partner with a middle management job who is working on themselves and trying to get a promotion or developing skills to get a different, better career, over a pompous asshole who thinks he is perfect because he has a high power job and the income to match. But me and my partner both come from humble beginnings and worked hard on ourselves to not be part of a certain type of cycle, so we understand each other while also matching each others ambitions. I the former is more important than some people think. I have trouble relating to a trust fund kid, so while I may have been willing to date one for the perks when I was younger, at my current age, I want a partner, and like you said an equal who treats me as such.
Now, there are of course those who have done everything right in life just didn't give them the right doors to open, I of course do not mean those people when I say I have little respect for those who do not try to better themselves, but I think everyone should still have reasonable expectation of who they are likely to attract, that is the sad reality of it.
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When women are still delusional about what they can get, they fall for romance scam. A good looking, young to middle aged man, worth millions of dollars is interested in you: a middle aged or old plain woman. They end up sending their life savings in the hopes of landing this catch. It's actually funny and sad at the same time.
This woman is like many on the show, a delusional disgusting being.
This woman is like many on the show, a delusional disgusting being.
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same happens to men with very attractive women that are out of their league lol
I didn't say that people should refrain from speaking about their achievements. I said they don't need to. What they've accomplished can speak for itself.
Humility/ modesty is a virtue. When someone says they are great, being merely good isn't good enough.
Muhammad Ali said "I am the greatest", and in that case, it was true. If Kanye West says it, there will be some dissenting opinions.
There are plenty decenting voices for Muhammad Ali, greatness is subjective. Someone might be great by their measurements and not yours. As I've said elsewhere, very few things people think are facts, are actually facts.
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It was the "maintaining a relationship is impossible because women have ongoing needs" that told me he wanted to put in zero effort but get maximum return. Now imagine what he must say when the woman stops meeting his sexual needs because he won't meet her emotional ones. Imagine his reaction to a woman being like "I MET YOUR NEEDS LAST WEEK WHY ARE YOU HAVING NEEDS AGAIN"!!!! It's giving the client who books a 6hr appointment and is surprised when I expect to be fed.
CLIENTS think of themselves too highly when then equate themselves to employers. You are a CLIENT, my role is closer to that of a consultant, and the meal time is built into the fee, with the contract stipulating that the person who hired me for my services must provide an adequate meal and social time.Anyone who is surprised at a worker wanting to eat some time during a 6 hour shift needs their head examined. I'm sure they wouldn't put up with it from their employer.
That said, I'm hoping that your 6 hour appointment is actually 6.5 hours in duration to account for your unpaid 30 minute meal time?
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The issue imo is about how gender roles have indeed changed for women, but many women refuse to acknowledge that it means men get to change theirs as well.
Before the 1970's(and even then) men paid for things because they had the economic power. Women couldn't get bank loans, credit cards, seperate accounts, etc because it was assumed they didn't have the economic capability to pay the bills. And in a marriage a man was fully and legally responsible for any debt incurred by his spouse. Hence the rules about men having a say over a wife's credit.
As well a man's ability to pay for dates etc was a measure women used to determine(especially before no fault divorce) his ability to be a good provider in the future. Along with their chosen profession. It was very important to the courting stages.
Starting in the 80's ecomomic opportunity for a woman to go at it alone opened up. They had the legal ability to be independent. I agree with all of this. It should happen.
But what hasn't changed with that is the other side. Before men were placed under societal pressure to conform as well to a "marriage norm". Terms like "grow up, be mature" and even a Psychological term called Peter Pan syndrome were used to societally apply pressure to take a wife so she would have that economic protection and opportunity via him. And yes we did hear from our mothers, our friends wife's and more.
But now men have reached a point where they are now pushing back. If women have the capability to go it alone then men have the right to no longer choose to engage in marriage. And to "renegotiate " the terms of courtship vis a vis who pays, who asks, and more.
As well the primary places courtship started have now been banned more or less. The workplace, colleges and many public places now have very stringent rules on any romantic approachment. Younger Men quite simply don't feel comfortable approaching women in public anymore. Between legal and social consequences. I will add, my younger male relatives say in many cases women are quite mean and rude.
I won't even get into the dating apps.
What many women haven't realized is the "rights" are also RESPONSIBILITIES. I agree, have a mortgage, a CC, a loan. But they are also responsible for it. And men no longer are. Same with dating. Women(and you have to admit this) still believe men must approach first, plan things, court her, pay for everything. And if they don't, they aren't a man. This is a holdover from the pre feminist days that was a equalizer and is now being questioned. Quite simply men are expected to take all the risk, for really less and less reward. Women need to begin to also treat men as equals. And that Means taking on the DATING RISKS as well.
