INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE: LATEST

[shack]

How can this be happening Shack of sit? You told us a month ago it was all over.

I never, ever declared it was over. I was saying the final outcome is inevitable, regardless of the time frame.

Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that the devastation in Gaza began with Hamas attack of Oct.7 and it will end when Israel says so.

Please tell us about frank's prediction that the ICJ would come down hard on Israel. "Wait till Friday. Wait till Friday." AKA "Wolf. Wolf". LOL. You'll have better results by mocking him.

 

[shack]

You can use whatever tactic you want and I will break your arguments down

You haven't come close yet. What makes you think that all of a sudden you'll become intelligent enough to do so now? You keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

The fact that you feel it's necessary to keep lying to try win win an argument proves that you admit that you are failing and doing so epically.

 

[Frankfooter]

Not in the slightest. Watch.

1)Hamas was ordered by the ICJ to immediately return the hostages.
2)Hamas has refused to do so.
3)You have not criticized them for ignoring the ICJ.
4)You are cool with Hamas not complying.

Ergo: It's OK with you if Israel ignores ICJ directives as well.

That is a perfect flow of facts resulting in a completely apropos conclusion.

You are incapable of providing a flaw in what I said without lying.

You are losing on the battlefield, in the courts, in the halls of power and on TERB. You lose everywhere just like the man you loathe and consider a pathetic loser, trump.

You have so much in common with him. LOL Lying, hate and losing.

Israel and Hamas must abide by the ICJ ruling.
Israel must ceasefire to 'prevent killing' and that will allow Hamas and Israel to return hostages.

 

[Frankfooter]

I never, ever declared it was over. I was saying the final outcome is inevitable

What is this inevitable final outcome?
Is it your 'final solution' for Palestinians?

 

[Frankfooter]

That's a big word for you. As such it's not surprising that you used it improperly.

 

[shack]

Israel and Hamas must abide by the ICJ ruling.

What is your opinion of Hamas not returning the hostages after being told to by the ICJ?

 

[shack]

What is this inevitable final outcome?
Is it your 'final solution' for Palestinians?

Israel will defeat Hamas.

 

[shack]

It is your claim, not mine. You said, the 75 year old occupation is irrelevant.

And I explained why. Just like you've claimed so many other valid points are irrelevant.

Therefore, it follows that you admit that the October 7 attack by Hamas is irrelevant

Not in the slightest. There is no logical continuum there.

and that the only relevant bit is the current ongoing genocide, per the ICJ ruling.

You are the liar here. The ICJ made no such ruling. Go back and check with frank. He has said a dozen times that offering a ruling last week was not in the ICJ's mandate.

I did not say anything about winning arguments. I said, I will break your arguments down,

When you say that you've proven me wrong, you're clearly saying that you've won the argument..

 

[shack]

Again it is your claim. I am repeating a logical conclusion from your own claim.

Your illogical conclusions are as consistently wrong as 5 dead +5 dead=25,000 dead.

That is the direct logical conclusion from the claims you made. If the 75 year old occupation is irrelevant, October 7th is irrelevant as well.

There is no logic at all there. Please show the progression of statements that leads from one statement to the other. Like A=2B. B=2C Therefore A=4C. You attempted to go straight to A=4C, but because you followed no consistent thinking, your conclusion is miles wrong. With you it's "It is what I say it is just because I said that it is." You displayed ZERO logical thinking.

Of course they did. They asked Israel to stop incitement of genocide, and asked Israel to stop genocidal actions. Incitement + action =

You keep lying through your lying teeth and I'll expose you every single time. ICJ did not use the word "STOP". No matter how much you feel the need to interpret something that needs no interpretation they did not tell Israel to stop anything. Stop lying.

I said I exposed your flawed logic or lack thereof, as well as inconsistencies and inaccuracies in your arguments, thereby causing you to take contradictory positions, resulting in you pretzeling yourself.

I have been consistent in my claims throughout. Your inability to prove me wrong has you pretzelling, moving the goalposts and flat out lying. It's pathetic how low you can stoop. Totally disingenuous, propelled by your hate of the Jewish race. No honour, no scruples.

You have proven that you are ignorant as to what logic means and how it works. I had formal training in logic at University of Toronto. A final mark of 97% which was the top mark that year at the University. We had to convert sentences into mathematical equations and then prove that the side to the left of the = sign was the same as what was to the right of the = sign. I know what I'm talking about and you're blowing smoke and nonsense out of your uninformed ass.
I imagine that I'm wasting my time because this is all going miles over your head.

(I'm predicting that your response will be either that I'm lying or that what I say is irrelevant. That's what you always do when you have no facts or intellect to back up what you claim.)

 

[Frankfooter]

Israel will defeat Hamas.

Hamas is the resistance to the occupation.
The only way to get rid of them is to get rid of the occupation.
Every time Israel kills another Palestinian, you create more Hamas.

 

[shack]

One does not exist without the other. Without the 75 year occupation, there is no October 7. If the 75 year occupation is irrelevant, so is October 7.

You keep saying that but you have nothing to prove it.

Unoriginal. I say. I will expose your arguments (as I have) and you say the same thing back to me.

You will? You've claimed that you already have and now we're back to "I will"?

I already said that the word stop does not have to appear anywhere.

For you to claim the ICJ is telling Israel to "stop" it is 100% required that the document says "stop". You sound like you're on acid.

Unoriginal and saying the same words back to me. By the way Jewish is not a race. It is a religion.

Call it what you like. You and Hamas want them all killed.

And LOOOOLLLLLL at your 97% in "logic". You must be the professor of logic, that taught Norm some logic here. I admit your logic makes for good humour even if it isn't of much use anywhere else.

You are so far out of your element you can't even hide it. What are your qualifications in the field of logic. frank taught you? Or better yet, kllatu? You used the word logic about 6 times in that other post, yet applied actual logic in none of those cases.

I used logic to predict that you'd call me a liar or say it's irrelevant. You tried to do both. Thanks for making me look good. I can tell that you are getting frustrated.

 

[Frankfooter]

For you to claim the ICJ is telling Israel to "stop" it is 100% required that the document says "stop". You sound like you're on acid.

How do you prevent' a) killing members of the group;' without a ceasefire?

The Court indicates provisional measures



In its Order, which has binding effect, the Court indicates the following provisional measures:

“(1) By fifteen votes to two,

The State of Israel shall, in accordance with its obligations under the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, in relation to Palestinians in Gaza, take all measures within its power to prevent the commission of all acts within the scope of Article II of this Convention, in particular:

(a) killing members of the group;

 

[richaceg]

History does not have to be proven. It is as is and no amount of historical revisionism can change documented history - that this is all part of the 75 year old ongoing occupation and resulting conflict. I mean if there is one thing firmly true about this entire affair, it is this!

You sound like Trump sucking his thumb. The ICJ has told Israel to stop incitement of genocide and genocidal actions. The word stop neither has to be used, nor is it used in legal lingo. Incitement + action = genocide.

I want them to live as equal citizens with the Palestinians. The way they lived before the arrival of these Zionist ghouls.

Such a lightweight comment. I guess you also used logic to help Norm deduce that a guy without a doghouse must be gay. Now you have graduated from Mr. Apartheid, to Dr. Apartheid.

Lol what the fuck are you smoking? Prevention amd stop don't mean the same dude...fire prevention month doesn't mean there's fire happening....no fire to stop
..prevention means simply that....precautionary... even a 4 year old would know this.

 

[Not getting younger]

There is no changing of tunes. I am only pointing out your feeble and hilarious attempts at trying to use the word "irrelevant" in a sentence. But this is par for the course for your Grade 1 level debating skills that rely on the tried and failed tactic of "hanging on to a thread and barely surviving". Just like the Palestinians are unfortunately, under Israeli occupation, oppression, apartheid and genocide.

It would be ancient history if it was the same as "Israel" existing 2000 years ago. Because of which Israel itself is an illegitimate state and should not exist. This is not antisemitism or racism. This is anti-Zionism. Zionism is a racist, fraudulent, violent, colonialist movement that relies on guilt tripping white people for the atrocities they perpetrated against the Jews, and in the process offering them an "out", to assuage their guilt, by trying to legitimize the colonization and oppression of the indigeneous people of Palestine, to whom the land rightfully belongs.

But the 75 years is an ongoing conflict and October 7 is just a part of that conflict. At no point in these 75 years did this conflict come to an end. Therefore the ongoing war and October 7 are not just inextricably linked, but are an inherent and irrefutable part of the 75 year conflict. If the 75 year old conflict is ancient history, so is October 7. If not, then the 75 year occupation and conflict is the most important issue yet to be resolved. Simply put, October 7 does not exist, if it wasn't for the 75 year old conflict.

Not accurate. They’ve had peace agreements. Broken each time by whom? In fact did the occupation not occur as a direct consequence of one?

 

[y2kmark]

Not accurate. They’ve had peace agreements. Broken each time by whom? In fact did the occupation not occur as a direct consequence of one?

It's like all the "treaties" North American colonists made with first nations. None of it slowed the land grab much...

 

[Not getting younger]

It's like all the "treaties" North American colonists made with first nations. None of it slowed the land grab much...

yep, kind of.
have you looked around the GTA lately?

Either way.
There have been peace agreements. Broken each time by……

 

[Klatuu]

Not accurate. They’ve had peace agreements. Broken each time by whom? In fact did the occupation not occur as a direct consequence of one?

Brainwashed. Low IQ.

 

[Not getting younger]

Brainwashed.

Delusional tool that Denys history. And needs that bookmark.
Who started it in 1948
Who started the 6 day war
Who broke the Oslo accords

 

[y2kmark]

yep, kind of.
have you looked around the GTA lately?

Have YOU looked around much of anywhere else lately? Maybe a nice walk in the woods would do you some good...

 

[Not getting younger]

Have YOU looked around much of anywhere else lately? Maybe a nice walk in the woods would do you some good...

Can you open your eyes…I’d bet a lot of money you think some nearby conservation area is getting touch with nature and roughing it…have likely never cracked a finger nail in your life. And like so many others don’t know much about life just beyond your backyard

obviously you don’t know where the word Kawarthas, Toronto, or much more come from. Your response is that of someone that doesn’t like looking the mirror.

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