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mandrill said:
Can you provide context?

I think it's reasonable to remove an "aid NGO" that funnels money to a major terrorist group and facilitates its control of a power base of over 2M people.

And this idea that Palestinians are still "refugees" when their grandparents were forced out of their homes 75 years ago is dumb and simply gets in the way of finding a way forward.
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Context?

Will you honestly read and discuss the context?

1) Israel has a history of trying to label NGO's as 'terrorist', for instance they labelled Defence For Children International 'terrorists' along with 7 other NGO's. The UN had to have them revoke this but it took months for them to do a proper investigation.
2) Israel has a long history of trying to attack the UNRWA based on the UNRWA being the repository for the documentation for 5 million Palestinian refugees outside of Israel, including supporting them with aid and documenting their claims.
3) The UNRWA is an agency of the UN that was created out of pressure from the US and Israel to separated dealing with Palestinian refugees.
4) Israel's accusations against the UNRWA have changed from 12 people to 4 people who took part in Oct 7.
5) The 'evidence' has not been shared but appears to come from Hamas captured on Oct 7 and likely tortured.
6) There is no other agency that has the infrastructure and workers to support feeding and sheltering the 2 million homeless Palestinians starving in Gaza right now.

Feel free to read the Israeli paper Haaretz's take.
www.haaretz.com

What is UNRWA? And why are countries freezing their funding?

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www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com

And compare that to Al Jazeera's.
www.aljazeera.com

What is UNRWA and why is it important for Palestinians?

The UN agency, which supports 6 million Palestinian refugees, is the main aid provider in Gaza amid Israeli bombardment.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
 
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mandrill said:
It's like me calling MAGA Republicans "nazis". You can force a parallel, but they're not the same beast.
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Words don't have meaning anymore, what are ya, some sort of Nazbol?
 
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Frankfooter said:
Context?

Will you honestly read and discuss the context?

1) Israel has a history of trying to label NGO's as 'terrorist', for instance they labelled Defence For Children International 'terrorists' along with 7 other NGO's. The UN had to have them revoke this but it took months for them to do a proper investigation.
2) Israel has a long history of trying to attack the UNRWA based on the UNRWA being the repository for the documentation for 5 million Palestinian refugees outside of Israel, including supporting them with aid and documenting their claims.
3) The UNRWA is an agency of the UN that was created out of pressure from the US and Israel to separated dealing with Palestinian refugees.
4) Israel's accusations against the UNRWA have changed from 12 people to 4 people who took part in Oct 7.
5) The 'evidence' has not been shared but appears to come from Hamas captured on Oct 7 and likely tortured.
6) There is no other agency that has the infrastructure and workers to support feeding and sheltering the 2 million homeless Palestinians starving in Gaza right now.

Feel free to read the Israeli paper Haaretz's take.
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The "evidence" is from the hundreds of school books and lessons that UNWRA / Hamas has been using to teach Palestinians to hate and murder Jews.

And the aid trucks keep arriving and someone keeps unloading them. So why bother funding shits like the UNWRA?!

And yes, the UNWRA does invaluable work like documenting and proving Gigi Hadid is a "refugee". Can't do without that.
 
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mandrill said:
The "evidence" is from the hundreds of school books and lessons that UNWRA / Hamas has been using to teach Palestinians to hate and murder Jews.

And the aid trucks keep arriving and someone keeps unloading them. So why bother funding shits like the UNWRA?!

And yes, the UNWRA does invaluable work like documenting and proving Gigi Hadid is a "refugee". Can't do without that.
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Post this evidence.
I've seen none of it, it doesn't make it into the MSM which makes me think its just your IDF and Mossad Commentary social media feed.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753459931099939287
 
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Frankfooter said:
How are they any different from you, shack or mandrill?
How are they different from the government?

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Someone like you who is so obsessed with hate that they spend all day on a pooner board, thinking his hate campaign is making a difference in the world, sees anyone who disagrees with him as the devil.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Context?

Will you honestly read and discuss the context?

1) Israel has a history of trying to label NGO's as 'terrorist', for instance they labelled Defence For Children International 'terrorists' along with 7 other NGO's....
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Yes, DCIP had several active members of PFLP on their board of directors and numerous others in their organization. Canada considers PFLP a terrorist entity so Israel is accurate on this one.
 
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mandrill said:
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And the aid trucks keep arriving and someone keeps unloading them. So why bother funding shits like the UNWRA?!
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Because Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria refuse to care for or accept generations of people born in their countries or even give the the opportunity to integrate as required by the UN Convention on Refugees.
 
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shack said:
There is no verifiable evidence that 25,000 Pali civilians have been killed. Only Hamas' (and their lackeys') claims.
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Overall numbers are likely accurate though there has been significant analysis that shows Hamas is understating the numbers of dead men and overstating the numbers of women and children.

They also purposely choose to not differentiate the numbers of dead combatants from civilians.
 
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Frankfooter said:
So you agree with Khan's statement about targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure?
They need to demonstrate the proper application of the principles of distinction, precaution and of proportionality. And I want to be quite clear so there's no misunderstanding: In relation to every dwelling house, in relation to any school, any hospital, any church, any mosque – those places are protected, unless the protective status has been lost. And I want to be equally clear that the burden of proving that the protective status is lost rests with those who fire the gun, the missile, or the rocket in question.

You agree that withholding food and medicine, as Israel's 'siege' is doing, is a war crime?
We've heard a lot from the Secretary General of the United Nations, from the head of the Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, Martin Griffiths, and from the World Health Organization regarding the dire humanitarian situation in Gaza. Impeding relief supplies as provided by the Geneva Conventions may constitute a crime within the Court's jurisdiction. I want to underline clearly to Israel that there must be discernible efforts, without further delay, to make sure civilians receive basic food, medicine, anaesthetics, morphine. We hear reports of operations taking place without these basic medicines, as if we're in the Middle Ages. Civilians must receive basic food and water and the desperately needed medical supplies.

So you admit the destruction of Gaza is a war crime and support charges by the ICC?
www.newarab.com

Israel has destroyed 1,000 mosques in Gaza since 7 October

Israeli attacks since October 7 have led to the destruction of 1,000 mosques and the killing of over at least 100 Muslim preachers.
www.newarab.com www.newarab.com

UN Chief Blasts Israel’s War in Gaza for ‘Killing Civilians on Unprecedented Scale’

You admit Israel should be charged for attacking hospitals?
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1749460385961271492
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Get a hold of yourself....every building that Israel bomb they discovered that it has been used by hamas....every hospital has been proven to have tunnels underneath used by hamas... the reason why nobody is charging Israel of genocide....up to now, only you and every hamas fanboys crying because you think hamas can get away with their coward actions....
 
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basketcase said:
Yes, DCIP had several active members of PFLP on their board of directors and numerous others in their organization. Canada considers PFLP a terrorist entity so Israel is accurate on this one.
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The UN called bullshit on the Israeli accusations, but of course you still push them.
Same way countries are starting to call bullshit on the UNRWA accusations.

Israel kills more children than anyone else, so of course they had to attack Defense for Children International.
Same way they kill UNRWA workers and tried to kill their funding because they support Palestinians.

Same atittude.
Kill.

Its time for a ceasefire.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1753190197033144527
 
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richaceg said:
Get a hold of yourself....every building that Israel bomb they discovered that it has been used by hamas...
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This is a map of bombing locations by Israel, posted by the Guardian.
This is genocide, not an attack on miltants.

 
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