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A decade ago if someone told me that Italy would have a tennis Majors Champion from Alto Adige, I'd laugh at them.
The region produces skiers not tennis players. Once he made his mind up to play tennis Gio was sent to Riccardo Piatti's Academy in Genoa, Piatti became his first coach. The great leap forward didn't happen until Darren Cahill replaced him. His parents have the quaint Italian names of Siglinde and Hanspeter.
San Candido - Innichen, Jannik's home town. It's about to get over-run.
The region produces skiers not tennis players. Once he made his mind up to play tennis Gio was sent to Riccardo Piatti's Academy in Genoa, Piatti became his first coach. The great leap forward didn't happen until Darren Cahill replaced him. His parents have the quaint Italian names of Siglinde and Hanspeter.
San Candido - Innichen, Jannik's home town. It's about to get over-run.
Rosewall won at 37.
Not sure if he was playing left or right-handed that day.
| Jimmy Connors | 1983 | US Open | 31y 0m 9d | |
174 | Pete Sampras | 2002 | US Open | 31y 0m 27d |
175 | Rod Laver | 1969 | US Open | 31y 1m 0d |
176 | Arthur Ashe | 1975 | Wimbledon | 31y 11m 25d |
177 | Andre Agassi | 2003 | Australian | 32y 8m 28d |
178 | Ken Rosewall | 1968 | Roland Garros | 33y 7m 7d |
179 | Andres Gimeno | 1972 | Roland Garros | 34y 10m 1d |
180 | Ken Rosewall | 1970 | US Open | 35y 10m 11d |
181 | Ken Rosewall | 1971 | Australian | 36y 2m 12d |
182 | Ken Rosewall | 1972 | Australian | 37y 2m 1d |
It's not common but it is not rare.
My bad, I should have said in my adult lifetime. The other problem is that pros were banned from the majors for a number of years so the records are a bit messed up.
I just noticed Jimmy Connors. For some reason his name didn't align with the other players' name but he did age out at 31. I mentioned Agassi (32). I was too young to remember Rosewall (37). It is still true that winning a major after age 31 is very rare.
I just noticed Jimmy Connors. For some reason his name didn't align with the other players' name but he did age out at 31. I mentioned Agassi (32). I was too young to remember Rosewall (37). It is still true that winning a major after age 31 is very rare.
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The Australian Open has an interesting history but was a major in 1972.
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Wrong! Medvedev was up 2 sets on Nadal at the AO final exactly 2 years ago and then Rafa came back to beat him. Exactly what Sinner just did today.
LOLIf 60 is not rare after age 31 than how many did they win before turning 31? Did they win any after age 31?
Novak Djokovic is now 36. How many more (if any) majors in his future? Age, wear and tear. Younger opponents. He may very well never win another Slam.
If history is any guide, age 31 seems to be the cut-off. At least it was for Connors, Ashe, Sampas, Agassi (32), Borg retired at 26.
Novak Djokovic is now 36. How many more (if any) majors in his future? Age, wear and tear. Younger opponents. He may very well never win another Slam.
If history is any guide, age 31 seems to be the cut-off. At least it was for Connors, Ashe, Sampas, Agassi (32), Borg retired at 26.
Before WW I Alto Adige used to be South Tyrol. The Austrians used it to control Northern Italy, even bringing Milano under their thumb. Most of Italy's war effort in WW I was centered on blocking the Fedeia Pass, countless lives were lost on both sides. When the Russians surrendered, Hindenburg supported Austria with heavy German artillery from the Russian Front. The Austrians broke through and reached Venice. In a surprising twist of humanity the Austrians chose not to bomb the city. At the Treaty of Versailles the Italians demanded South Tyrol to better protect their borders.
Grazie Darren Cahill.
Grazie Darren Cahill.
Telling us that younger tennis players/athletes have better results than older ones is hardly a revelation. It's like, D'UH, you're not telling us something that all of us didn't already know. It happens in every sport. Picking an arbitrary age as some kind artificial cut off means nothing. What does it prove? What are we learning? Because there are always exceptions.
My point is that saying to win after age 30 is RARE when it's happened 60 times is hyperbole. It's definitely much less likely, maybe even uncommon but hardly rare. There is no "cut off" age/line in the sand. Different athletes have different career arcs depending on a bunch of different criteria. It's a given and applies to every sport.
Tom Brady was rare. Gordie Howe was rare. Satchel Paige was rare. George Blanda was rare. George Foreman was rare. Winning a tennis tournament after age 30 is hardly rare.
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