My reviews speak for themselves, you must be one of the boundary pushers if you think being told twice to not do something is not a problem.
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It's happened where I hit the buzzer button and stand there waiting, waiting, waiting.........
Meanwhile the concierge is wondering who is that idiot standing there for the last 35 minutes.
A bit off topic.
A lot of Asian agencies have secret cameras in the living room filming clients, so they know what they look like, it's for security. Several years ago this young Chinese kid teamed up with 2 black kids from his high school, and they robbed a bunch of ladies from agencies like Moonwaiting.
Went to see this indie massage lady and she had a camera somewhere in the building, like when you get off the elevator, a lot of them can see you before you see them.
One indie who booted me in order to see her regular had a black guy "security guard" hiding in another room. This is why I don't like indies. Most of them make their own rules set their own price, most of them are washed up agencies ladies that used to charge $160, yet they jack up the price to $400 to $600. I know I'm not that bright, but I know the price of pussy. I wrote 150 reviews FFS.
Wow. That is a bold statement. Washed-up???? Really??? You sound really mad actually. Like that is a serious hate-on for indies. It’s your right but I wouldn’t want to carry around that much disdain for a group of people. I just can’t take that type of negativity and when it is self imposed- there is something you can do about it.
and you may have a budget for the pussy you buy but you don’t know the “price of pussy”. There is no set price for pussy. That is why there are indies killing it at $600/hr. They wouldn’t charge the rates if they weren’t getting it. Just sayin’. Another thing not worth carrying anger for. So what if someone you don’t want to see is getting the rates they are. Why care so much?. I just don’t get it. They have should have no effect on you. Not this type of effect. But that is just my opinion.
It’s true it is bullshit that I have to be ready 15 mins early because the client is sitting in my lobby instead of his car or a shop near by. This is literally just happened to me last night.
I like to be dressed and ready and then take 15-20 mins to finish a coffee and chill before the client comes up. So I am ready but not quite mentally in the game yet. It throws me off.
However having said that, that is the job. Dealing with people means dealing with issues regarding timing. It is a pain, but it is what it is. So I’m always ready a bit early and I leave time in case they are a little late. Over 10 mins and I am taking the overage out of you time.
I also make room on times differently depending on location. The location I’m at now doesn’t have the best parking situations. So I make room for that. Most guys show up on time but don’t get up to the condo suite until 10 mins later. So have no choice but to change things a bit. So I set in the times. A 1pm will finish at 2:15pm the latest. Because he probably doesn’t get up to the condo until 10-15 mins after 1pm. Even if he is on time, the session won’t ever start on time. If effects guys who are tight on time but there is nothing I can do about it. So timing is always an issue and sometimes not by choice. So we have to roll with it on both sides of the industry.
In my mainstream job I find it happens as well. Consults never start on time. It is just the way it is.
Ladies have the right to refuse you for any reason but I just can’t hold little things like this against a person. I don’t personally agree that if they come to the lobby early that they may disrespect the boundaries in the bedroom. Most are not doing it to be disrespectful, most are just idiots making a mistake. If I had of canceled on the client last night, I would have missed out on a very sweet and gentle man with a wonderful soft touch that I like and I would have lost on out cash, would have wasted my time getting ready for nothing. It just doesn’t make good business sense to me. But that is just me. Each lady is different and can run their business how they want.
I like to be dressed and ready and then take 15-20 mins to finish a coffee and chill before the client comes up. So I am ready but not quite mentally in the game yet. It throws me off.
However having said that, that is the job. Dealing with people means dealing with issues regarding timing. It is a pain, but it is what it is. So I’m always ready a bit early and I leave time in case they are a little late. Over 10 mins and I am taking the overage out of you time.
I also make room on times differently depending on location. The location I’m at now doesn’t have the best parking situations. So I make room for that. Most guys show up on time but don’t get up to the condo suite until 10 mins later. So have no choice but to change things a bit. So I set in the times. A 1pm will finish at 2:15pm the latest. Because he probably doesn’t get up to the condo until 10-15 mins after 1pm. Even if he is on time, the session won’t ever start on time. If effects guys who are tight on time but there is nothing I can do about it. So timing is always an issue and sometimes not by choice. So we have to roll with it on both sides of the industry.
In my mainstream job I find it happens as well. Consults never start on time. It is just the way it is.
Ladies have the right to refuse you for any reason but I just can’t hold little things like this against a person. I don’t personally agree that if they come to the lobby early that they may disrespect the boundaries in the bedroom. Most are not doing it to be disrespectful, most are just idiots making a mistake. If I had of canceled on the client last night, I would have missed out on a very sweet and gentle man with a wonderful soft touch that I like and I would have lost on out cash, would have wasted my time getting ready for nothing. It just doesn’t make good business sense to me. But that is just me. Each lady is different and can run their business how they want.
Just want to say - posting the way we do weeds out men we would not get along with. It also weeds us out for you. It is actually beneficial when you think about it.
I don’t want to see all the different types of men here. There are plenty of posters I can name right now that I would not want to see based on their postings. Sometimes your posts make me say / I’m glad I don’t see him. Other posts make me say - yeah this is a guy who gets it and I can dig that. Not every man on TERB is a potiental client either.
Then there the guys that are not lounge people anyway. I have so many who find me on TERB yet they have never read one of my loud mouthed posts in the lounge. Because a lot don’t bother with the lounge.
So just showing that posting what we do and how we do, is often either a good thing for insuring we get the clients we like or it doesn’t effect our bottomline because guys are not reading what we say.
For me, I give clear instructions:
This is the address, text me when you're close, do NOT approach the building until I reply with the unit and buzzer number. When I give you the info, you MUST buzz as the elevator will NOT let you to my floor if you do not buzz, do NOT follow anyone in as this will also cause security to question you.
Four instructions have not been followed if you are inside before I’ve given you the buzzer code. So for me that's just a big red flag. A simple "I'm outside, whats the buzzer?" won't, but an "I'm in the lobby whats the unit number?"
A good friend of mine actually cancels the appointment in you're more than 15 minutes late, it's written on her website and she enforces it, I find it a bit extra but since it's been made clear I don't see the problem, because as mentioned, we can run our business how we want. I personally don't care, but your appointment is ending when it was supposed to, if you're a regular or tip for being late, I might give you more time, but ymmv lol
This is the address, text me when you're close, do NOT approach the building until I reply with the unit and buzzer number. When I give you the info, you MUST buzz as the elevator will NOT let you to my floor if you do not buzz, do NOT follow anyone in as this will also cause security to question you.
Four instructions have not been followed if you are inside before I’ve given you the buzzer code. So for me that's just a big red flag. A simple "I'm outside, whats the buzzer?" won't, but an "I'm in the lobby whats the unit number?"
A good friend of mine actually cancels the appointment in you're more than 15 minutes late, it's written on her website and she enforces it, I find it a bit extra but since it's been made clear I don't see the problem, because as mentioned, we can run our business how we want. I personally don't care, but your appointment is ending when it was supposed to, if you're a regular or tip for being late, I might give you more time, but ymmv lol
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The whole point of being an indy aka self-employed is to make your own rules, and set your own prices.
How exactly would you know if "most" or the majority of ladies used to be with agencies? Did you ask the thousands, tens of thousands or more ladies about this? Further, your rate example doesn't make sense. The going agency rate has been around $250 per hour for quite a while. Granted, there are VIP agency girls with higher rates. What does writing 150 reviews have to do with anything?
And you'll never see me
if a client outs me to my building, he deserves to be outed back. Just say that you want to harm sex workers and don't want to held accountable for it, it's less words.My comment was SPECIFICALLY in RESPONSE to someone saying that me sending a client home could lead to them outing ME to my building. ALL I SAID was that I would out them BACK. Reading comprehension and understanding context is an important life skill, my guy. I swear yall play stupid for fun.I am neither booking with you, nor did I did talk about outing anyone. I am saying clients need to protect their privacy by not doing etransfers, giving out real world info etc., The only one that talked about outing anyone on this thread is you, without any provocation and that is a huge red flag.
Me: if a client outs me I'll out them BACK
This idiot: yOuRe TaLkInG aBoUt OuTiNg SoMeOnE uNpRoVoKeD
This level of stupidity is truly awe inspiring, you truly have to work very hard at it.
This idiot: yOuRe TaLkInG aBoUt OuTiNg SoMeOnE uNpRoVoKeD
This level of stupidity is truly awe inspiring, you truly have to work very hard at it.
I'm not reading thatYes reading comprehension is important. And if you used that to read between the lines you'd know that he was just using hyperbole to say that it was an over the top reaction to cancel the date and I assume, take his deposit, for merely entering the building early. So the OP was saying that just like it is over the top to out you for cancelling a date, it is over the top for you to cancel the date in the first place for merely entering the building a bit earlier.
The client could be like me. May be it is winter, and it is cold, and they used uber to get there and there is not a good place to wait outside. What have you. But to immediately brand them a likely boundary pusher sounds like you look for any and all excuses to cancel dates and take deposits. Which again, is another red flag.
Anyway, you are boring me now and I have better things to do like bash Mr. Apartheid and Mr. Genocide on the Israel threads. I will leave it here and say that a lot of the salty responses you are getting is entirely your doing. You come across as one of those providers who actually hate clients, and would create alt-Twitter client bashing accounts
Triggered.
Plenty of nice girls from agencies that don’t require e-transfer, this is Toronto with thousands of SPs I’ll never run out. I never saw one ad from an indie that looks good enough for me to hand over personal info.
And, I’m out….wow…Im Moving on to the “best hotel rooms in gta for sex” thread. I’ll see some of you there.
I think that a lot of these details and issues are less likely to come into play with an outcall. The client is comfortably at home, so 5 or 10 or 15 minutes are easy to deal. The client is not on a tight schedule and has lots and lots of time to get prepared.
Exactly, and the rules may be unfavorable to you. For example I saw this lady in a small town (outcall), and she decided to leave after 30 minutes because I "already came", it was the 1st shot, even though I paid her $300 dollars for the hour. At least with the agencies, there's some level of guarantee for service, still some of them would cheat you by giving you excuses like "there's not enough time", "there are no condoms left".
While I appreciate your input. I noticed you have a tendency to bombard people with silly questions. It's pretty well-known fact that a lot of indies have spa or escort experiences before starting their own businesses. Never heard the phrase "Don't run before you can walk"? You think I need to ask tens of thousands of SPs to reach that conclusion? You realize how ridiculous you sound? How exactly would I know, give me a break dude.
From a nice civilian girl to someone with enhanced tits, filled lips, more and more makeup with each twitter seflie, attending orgies, reviews can be traced back to the Obama years, that's not washed up? I'm not saying all of them are like that but a lot are.
The "price of pussy" is another term for the current market rate, which is $160 hh / 250 h. The $600 an hour is relatively a new thing in Toronto for indie, more specifically a post-covid thing, before the idea was to cut out the middle man (escort agencies) so SPs can keep more of their earnings, and the rate was still competitive, but these days the $600 are just agencies escorts packaged as high end companions, even with high inflation, it's a huge jump, and I merely state that I think it's a rip-off and I do not use their services. Whether they're killing it or not, I don't care.
It doesn’t appear like you don’t care though is what I am saying. It seems like you are mad. Trying to throw every insult you can, where you can.
That is just how it is coming across to me as the reader. You seem really angry at Indies for what they can do or in your terms I guess “get away with???””
This has always been the case so I'm not sure why you made this point.
Yes, I ask silly questions in response to silly comments where the other person seems like a know-it-all. Even more so when they brag about writing 150 reviews. Sorry, but you come across that way. Comments like "most SP's have this background" or "most are agency wash outs" are silly because you can't know for sure based on the opinions on this board. I don't consider anything on this board factual so why are you? Have you never heard the phrase: "always take what you read with a grain of salt"?
We can't make any rational conclusions about SP's: why they started, where they spend their money, what their exit plan is, etc. just from what we read here. It is impossible to verify that information.
Do you realize how ridiculous you look when you can't tell the difference between opinions and facts?
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