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  • Extend a warm welcome using both verbal and non-verbal cues, such as a friendly smile or a welcoming hug. As the host, make a conscious effort to ensure that your clients feel welcomed.

  • Engage in icebreaker conversations to establish a sense of comfort for all involved. Avoid limiting interactions to one-sided responses, as this tends to resemble an interview rather than a shared experience.

  • Respond promptly to requests for your time either way by yes or no respectfully. Utilize an auto-response function in your emails to acknowledge receipt, as no response may prompt repeated attempts at contact you.

  • Yes, I will book a few providers to increase my chances of success. Don't be offended if I choose the first to respond, I need to restore blood to my head as soon as possible.

  • During agreed-upon times, refrain from diverting attention to your phone. Both parties should be fully all hands-on deck.

  • Maintain oral hygiene after CIM/BBBJ encounters, using mouthwash to ensure a clean and comfortable experience for both parties involved. I am not interest in tasting some else’ cream.

  • After each encounter, take a shower or use water and wipes if a shower is not immediately possible. Freshness gives an impression of not being the “one after”.

  • Avoid keeping clients waiting outside, especially in unfavorable weather conditions and/or when finding a parking area is a challenge. Plan ample time between sessions to prevent a rush and potential time conflicts.

  • Demonstrate genuine interest during interactions, recognizing that clients contribute to your income. If uninterested, gracefully conclude a session to prevent further awkwardness.

  • Clearly communicate your type of client preferences if any, lest you create false hope and waste time. Whoever complains, remind them that its not their entitlement.

  • If canceling on the same day or at the last minute, consider offering credits as a gesture of goodwill, similar to the cancellation fees we (clients) incur.

  • If compensated as per the agreed amount, don't anticipate tips; leave the decision to tip up to us. Express appreciation if a tip is given, as silence may be misinterpreted as entitlement.

  • Practice discretion when using the bathroom, particularly when it comes to loud peeing, do it quietly to avoid potential misinterpretation of manhood.

  • Be mindful of dietary choices, especially a day before intimate encounters involving oral activities, by avoiding foods that may increase odour and acid levels.

  • Allow a brief period of 2-3 days after your menstrual cycle before resuming work to avoid any residual discharge smells that may cause regurgitation.

  • Actively participate in the agreed intimate activities to ensure enjoyment, preventing any misunderstandings about consent.
 

Vera.Reis

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  • Extend a warm welcome using both verbal and non-verbal cues, such as a friendly smile or a welcoming hug. As the host, make a conscious effort to ensure that your clients feel welcomed.
  • Curious what the expectation is when it is an outcall, since we are not the host at that point

  • Respond promptly to requests for your time either way by yes or no respectfully. Utilize an auto-response function in your emails to acknowledge receipt, as no response may prompt repeated attempts at contact you.
  • Define promptly

  • Yes, I will book a few providers to increase my chances of success. Don't be offended if I choose the first to respond, I need to restore blood to my head as soon as possible.
  • This is why I rarely respond to last minute requests, they are 9/10 a waste of my time, so you screw yourself over with this behaviour.

  • Avoid keeping clients waiting outside, especially in unfavorable weather conditions and/or when finding a parking area is a challenge. Plan ample time between sessions to prevent a rush and potential time conflicts.
  • If you're early, you're waiting. We plan enough time, some clients screw that up and that is out of our control, clients need to ensure they arrive and leave on time. But then, if we try to engage in time management we get called clock watchers, you can't have it both ways.

  • If canceling on the same day or at the last minute, consider offering credits as a gesture of goodwill, similar to the cancellation fees we (clients) incur.
  • This is ridiculous, when a client doesn't show up we lost hundreds of dollars, when I cancel you lose, maybe gas. This expectation will cause providers to work when they are not feeling well, physically or mentally, and this will lead to a not great session for you. You should appreciate when we cancel, we are actually saving you money by not having you spend money on what might be a not perfect experience.

  • Practice discretion when using the bathroom, particularly when it comes to loud peeing, do it quietly to avoid potential misinterpretation of manhood.
  • If a woman peeing bothers you, you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a vagina, this is ridiculous.

  • Be mindful of dietary choices, especially a day before intimate encounters involving oral activities, by avoiding foods that may increase odour and acid levels.
  • So providers who work multiple days a week should rearrange their whole diet for you? This is a ridiculous expectation. This is only reasonable in there is going to be anal, and while I personally do not offer it currently, when I did you get what you get, you're putting a dick in someones ass, if you are not mature enough to handle what that might entail, you shouldn't be fucking people in the ass.

  • Allow a brief period of 2-3 days after your menstrual cycle before resuming work to avoid any residual discharge smells that may cause regurgitation.
  • So you want us to take 6-8 days off a month, would you be cool with our rates increasing by 30% to compensate for this loss of earnings? Again, if a little RESIDUAL discharge or blood, on the tip of your condom bothers you, you are not mature enough to be touching vaginas. At most, I would say if you are really concerned and you're into daty, you can get her know in your communication that if she has had her period in the last 2-3 days to let you know during the appointment so you do not go down on her, but it should not effect you going forward with the appointment, this is childish.

  • Actively participate in the agreed intimate activities to ensure enjoyment, preventing any misunderstandings about consent.
  • I think the misunderstanding of consent here is yours, consent cannot be 100% given in advance as it is ongoing, if I agreed to DFK but then your oral hygiene is horrendous, I am fully allowed to withdraw consent. If you show up with sores on your dick, I am allowed to withdraw consent. If you make me uncomfortable, I am allowed to withdraw consent. If I am just not in the mood to do that particular things today, I am allowed to withdraw consent (but obviously if I was not in the mood to kiss, suck dick or have sex, I would cancel the appointment before hand, this is more so for the more YMMV things like CIM, COF, rimming etc) No services are guaranteed, and consent is based on many factors.
 
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SexB

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  • Avoid keeping clients waiting outside, especially in unfavorable weather conditions and/or when finding a parking area is a challenge. Plan ample time between sessions to prevent a rush and potential time conflicts.
  • If you're early, you're waiting. We plan enough time, some clients screw that up and that is out of our control, clients need to ensure they arrive and leave on time. But then, if we try to engage in time management we get called clock watchers, you can't have it both ways.
I'm reminded of the time one brain trust member got to the incall early and waited in the condo's vestibule drawing attention to himself.

Was it in the middle of nowhere? If he got there early, could he not have just stopped and had a coffee? If it was downtown, he just could have wandered the neighborhood. When I arrive early, I just find a way to unobtrusively kill time or just go to a coffee shop, making sure to pop a couple breath mints before I head to the lady's incall.
 

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OP - you tried and some of it is written nice and respectfully, and makes sense but some other shit though - you are out of line. Diet, waiting days after a period has already ended, pre-consent, don’t pee loudly, LOL. These are over the top.

If you can’t handle hearing a girl take a pee - don’t be around women. We pee a lot.

If you can’t handle a little more of an acid taste when going down - stay away from the vag. Quite often our acid/PH levels change due to hormones, not what we eat. We can’t help that.

Pre-consent - are you kidding me? I will tell you what I offer but I will not pre-consent to some guy I don’t know and haven’t even seen yet. If you are the right client, you get the all service. If you show up with brown teeth from smoking with some even falling out - I’m not kissing you. I don’t care if it is in my service list. I’m just not. So I’m not agreeing to anything before meeting. I’m telling you what I’m willing to offer to the right partner. That is it.

I get that some ladies have been telling clients how to be clients and therefore guy want to through it back but you really can’t tell someone how to have sex with you. Telling a girl she should change her diet for you to have sex with her is just not appropriate. Sorry. Having a certain diet does not define a good provider. That is just being silly and honestly - really entitled.

I am man - make vagina taste how I want. do you hear how stupid that sounds???? Can I call guys who eat spicy food before seeing me that they are bad clients because when I swallow your load, it is too hot for me? No. That sounds equally as dumb.

Maybe edit down the list to take out your elistist entitlement and you will have something really good there, because a lot of it is good. Friendly greeting, being on time, be clean, etc. all good things.

Diet for me, preconsent to everything in text, dont pee in my presence - no. Sorry. Doesn’t work that way.
 
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Paprika

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1. Be on time.

2. Don't kick me out early.

3. Don't hustle me for more tips.

4. No negative energy: Don't raise your voice, ask awkward questions, or badmouth others.

5. Don't deny me second shot when there's still 15 minutes left of the 1 hour session.

6. Drop the entitled attitude during subsequent visits. Just because I like you doesn't mean I deserve worse service.

7. Be open-minded.

8. Eye contact during BJ.
 

Cbr20152012

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This would have been a better first post.

I would add:
Clearly communicate dislikes/restrictions (to the best of their ability as not all speak English fluently)
 

Vera.Reis

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1. Be on time.

2. Don't kick me out early.

3. Don't hustle me for more tips.

4. No negative energy: Don't raise your voice, ask awkward questions, or badmouth others.

5. Don't deny me second shot when there's still 15 minutes left of the 1 hour session.

6. Drop the entitled attitude during subsequent visits. Just because I like you doesn't mean I deserve worse service.

7. Be open-minded.

8. Eye contact during BJ.
Finally a decent list, I don't agree with #5 unless you have taken less than 5 minutes to get off in the last round(s), the last 10 minutes are for your shower and getting out. But, we can still kiss, cuddle, caress each other for the last 5 minutes in bed. It is extremely rare that I indulged this and the person ended up leaving on time, most of time they just sit there and go "one more minute, I just need one more minute" and if you want providers to be consistent on #1, we need to do this type of time management.

But to each their own, I like to make it clear how I am on here so that only clients who are okay with how I work see me. This is why I comment on these types of things, so if this is a deal breaker for you, you won't book me and neither of us will have to have an experience we do not want to.
 

Jacob1988

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  • Extend a warm welcome using both verbal and non-verbal cues, such as a friendly smile or a welcoming hug. As the host, make a conscious effort to ensure that your clients feel welcomed.

  • Engage in icebreaker conversations to establish a sense of comfort for all involved. Avoid limiting interactions to one-sided responses, as this tends to resemble an interview rather than a shared experience.

  • Respond promptly to requests for your time either way by yes or no respectfully. Utilize an auto-response function in your emails to acknowledge receipt, as no response may prompt repeated attempts at contact you.

  • Yes, I will book a few providers to increase my chances of success. Don't be offended if I choose the first to respond, I need to restore blood to my head as soon as possible.

  • During agreed-upon times, refrain from diverting attention to your phone. Both parties should be fully all hands-on deck.

  • Maintain oral hygiene after CIM/BBBJ encounters, using mouthwash to ensure a clean and comfortable experience for both parties involved. I am not interest in tasting some else’ cream.

  • After each encounter, take a shower or use water and wipes if a shower is not immediately possible. Freshness gives an impression of not being the “one after”.

  • Avoid keeping clients waiting outside, especially in unfavorable weather conditions and/or when finding a parking area is a challenge. Plan ample time between sessions to prevent a rush and potential time conflicts.

  • Demonstrate genuine interest during interactions, recognizing that clients contribute to your income. If uninterested, gracefully conclude a session to prevent further awkwardness.

  • Clearly communicate your type of client preferences if any, lest you create false hope and waste time. Whoever complains, remind them that its not their entitlement.

  • If canceling on the same day or at the last minute, consider offering credits as a gesture of goodwill, similar to the cancellation fees we (clients) incur.

  • If compensated as per the agreed amount, don't anticipate tips; leave the decision to tip up to us. Express appreciation if a tip is given, as silence may be misinterpreted as entitlement.

  • Practice discretion when using the bathroom, particularly when it comes to loud peeing, do it quietly to avoid potential misinterpretation of manhood.

  • Be mindful of dietary choices, especially a day before intimate encounters involving oral activities, by avoiding foods that may increase odour and acid levels.

  • Allow a brief period of 2-3 days after your menstrual cycle before resuming work to avoid any residual discharge smells that may cause regurgitation.

  • Actively participate in the agreed intimate activities to ensure enjoyment, preventing any misunderstandings about consent.
  • Extend a warm welcome using both verbal and non-verbal cues, such as a friendly smile or a welcoming hug. As the host, make a conscious effort to ensure that your clients feel welcomed.

  • Engage in icebreaker conversations to establish a sense of comfort for all involved. Avoid limiting interactions to one-sided responses, as this tends to resemble an interview rather than a shared experience.

  • Respond promptly to requests for your time either way by yes or no respectfully. Utilize an auto-response function in your emails to acknowledge receipt, as no response may prompt repeated attempts at contact you.

  • Yes, I will book a few providers to increase my chances of success. Don't be offended if I choose the first to respond, I need to restore blood to my head as soon as possible.

  • During agreed-upon times, refrain from diverting attention to your phone. Both parties should be fully all hands-on deck.

  • Maintain oral hygiene after CIM/BBBJ encounters, using mouthwash to ensure a clean and comfortable experience for both parties involved. I am not interest in tasting some else’ cream.

  • After each encounter, take a shower or use water and wipes if a shower is not immediately possible. Freshness gives an impression of not being the “one after”.

  • Avoid keeping clients waiting outside, especially in unfavorable weather conditions and/or when finding a parking area is a challenge. Plan ample time between sessions to prevent a rush and potential time conflicts.

  • Demonstrate genuine interest during interactions, recognizing that clients contribute to your income. If uninterested, gracefully conclude a session to prevent further awkwardness.

  • Clearly communicate your type of client preferences if any, lest you create false hope and waste time. Whoever complains, remind them that its not their entitlement.

  • If canceling on the same day or at the last minute, consider offering credits as a gesture of goodwill, similar to the cancellation fees we (clients) incur.

  • If compensated as per the agreed amount, don't anticipate tips; leave the decision to tip up to us. Express appreciation if a tip is given, as silence may be misinterpreted as entitlement.

  • Practice discretion when using the bathroom, particularly when it comes to loud peeing, do it quietly to avoid potential misinterpretation of manhood.

  • Be mindful of dietary choices, especially a day before intimate encounters involving oral activities, by avoiding foods that may increase odour and acid levels.

  • Allow a brief period of 2-3 days after your menstrual cycle before resuming work to avoid any residual discharge smells that may cause regurgitation.

  • Actively participate in the agreed intimate activities to ensure enjoyment, preventing any misunderstandings about consent.
And you wonder why you likely aren’t getting laid in real life
 

Vera.Reis

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It is appropriate for the client to wait, if they arrive early. I think what the OP was referring to, is for the provider to avoid making the client wait beyond, the start time of the date.
Given his unreasonable requests, I don't why you think he meant something more reasonable. But since he didn't specify and hasn't been back, either interpretation could be correct.

And I've had clients show up early and give me attitude when I wasnt ready 15 minutes early. So what I said is relevant.
 

Vera.Reis

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Not all of his points were unreasonable. And he was quite clear with that specific point that he was talking about being let up on time.

Avoid keeping clients waiting outside, especially in unfavorable weather conditions and/or when finding a parking area is a challenge. Plan ample time between sessions to prevent a rush and potential time conflicts.

Also weren't you the one who complained that people assigned the worst possible meaning to something in the other thread? So wonder why you would do it here, even when the thought was expressed clearly, unless it is because you assume that providers are always right and clients are always wrong which is not the case.

So no, what you said wasn't the relevant response.
1. I didn't say ALL his requests were unreasonable.

2. What you quoted can be interpreted either way. It could be leave ample time between calls so that if a client shows up a little early you aren't rushed trying to get things done to let him up asap.. or it can be interpreted how you did.
 

Vera.Reis

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I didn't say that you said that all his requests were unreasonable. I said that your interpretation that a reasonable point that he made, could have possibly been made unreasonably, was uncalled for. There was no ambiguity in what he stated. It was clear. There is no reason to interpret things otherwise.

He said, and I quote the OP - "Plan ample time between sessions to prevent a rush and potential time conflicts."

Given the clarity in his statement, the generally reported client experience of having to wait outside before being let up to the apartment beyond the start time of the session and the general rule that you are not allowed up early - his statement is clear in its meaning - which is dont make us wait beyond the start time of the session and leave time between sessions so we can start on time and end on time.
Actually upon a close examination, what this guy is saying in the part you're bolding is that clients are sometimes late and we should leave ample time in case they can't find parking so that if they are late you aren't rushing them out because you have another client and thus a time conflict. Which is yet another unreasonable request by this guy, If you're late that's you're problem and session ends on time, especially if I have another client after.

So, the first part of not leaving a client waiting outside can really be interpreted either way, as the part you're using to support your interpretation actually has to do with something else. Hes saying don't keep us waiting (undefined if this means when early or past the start time), but also if we are late do not kick us out early as you should leave enough time for us to be late and it still not conflict with your next call.
 

Vera.Reis

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Not really. If a client is late, and the provider is not, then the question of waiting outside does not arise. The question of waiting outside waiting for the provider to let the client up, also does not arise if the client is asked to leave the appointment on time.

So there are no other interpretations needed of a statement that was already clearly expressed, which is to paraphrase the OP - "Don't keep the client waiting outside in inclement weather, beyond the start time of the session, while you clean up and get ready. Instead plan your time accordingly and leave enough time for yourself to do these things before our session starts". The statement and its meaning was clear enough.
I see you fully ignored the and/ or clearly indicating everything else after was a new issue. After that and/or he moves on to talk about difficult parking, only two things could make this relevant, you arrive really early to avoid being late, or you're late because of it. The latter is more likely, but the former would support my original interpretation.

You're interpretation is only correct without and/or and parking comment 🤷🏽‍♀️

The question of leaving on time does arise though with the difficult parking causing a client to be late, where now having to leave on time is him being "rushed" because another client is coming and the provider didn't leave enough time for such a scenario. It's actually very clear that he is saying this.

Why else would he say and/or then mention difficult parking?
 
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explorerzip

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I especially wont wait longer in inclement weather. I dont have a car, I uber, so I wait out in the cold, or the rain. So there is only so much tolerance I have. Plus a lot of incalls are infact in places where the nearest store is a bit of a walk. Which I am not going to do in that weather.
I always ask for the major intersections before an appointment. I'll then Google the area for parking, transit, coffee, stores, etc. before heading out so I have a place to wait if necessary.
 

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5. Don't deny me second shot when there's still 15 minutes left of the 1 hour session.
That would make it a 45 mins session so I agree but that’s also why I don’t do 60 mins session. I find that for most people it’s almost impossible to go 2 rounds
 
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