Anti-Zionism Isn't The Same As Anti-semitism. Here's The History

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shack said:
Of course you have. You are unable/unwilling to provide any evidence how a bilateral ceasefire, which requires negotiation could possibly produce a faster cessation of the hostilities than a unilateral surrender by Hamas which requires no negotiations. It is physically impossible.

It is universally accepted that the sooner hostilities stop, the sooner Palestinian deaths will occur.



It is universally accepted that shacks are ramshackle old things that need pulling down.
Actually, it is your ramblings that are being torn to shreds.

BTW, is that your evidence of how a bilaterally negotiated ceasefire, with other countries being involved in the talks would stop the fighting faster than a unilateral Hamas surrender that requires ZERO negotiation? LOL. You are too funny and a response like that is an outright admission that you know I'm correct. But you want Hamas to continue fighting knowing full well it will result in many more Palestinian deaths. The only conclusion is that you are cool with that. You have no problem if another 500,000 Palestinians die.

Now who is the one calling for genocide? It sure isn't me.
 

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Protests are getting bigger.
And still nobody is taking action to stand by Hamas in their battle. Do you think that vandalizing legitimate businesses, intimidating elderly people and blocking traffic as a form of civil disobedience is helping them win the war. Is it convincing to people to change their minds and support Hamas? No! It is only pissing people off and publicly displaying that they are thugs.
 

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Terrorists shouldn't be allowed to run countries.
So we agree that Hamas, who you've admitted are terrorists, should be removed from controlling Gaza. Although a Hamas surrender would shed less blood.

Man, you are making things so easy to tear your arguments down.
 

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What other countries refuse to give their indigenous populations citizenship?
I knew you had no answer. All you could do is answer a question with a question. You are flailing away and losing miserably.

Answer the question. How many countries in the world confer full rights of citizenship to foreigners that do not even live within the confines of that country.

The answer is a big fat 0, which is exactly equal to how much merit your proposal carries.
 

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So you're saying you think the state of Palestine exists?
There you go again. Answering a question with a question. It's an admission that you don't have a legitimate reply. All hot air, bombast and propaganda.
 

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Absolute rubbish. Which countries in the whole world give the full rights of citizens of their country to non-citizens/foreigners? Your suggestion has no merit.
Well Israel gives those rights to Arabs, they even elect members to their parliament. What a bunch of mensches those guys are... almost as if they are not genocidal terrorists like Hamas.
 
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You've been talking a lot today about trying to get me banned. You must be getting frustrated at having your BS exposed for what it is.
Funny considering hate speech is a bannable offense on terb. Isn't it ironic, doncha think.
 
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Funny considering hate speech is a bannable offense on terb. Isn't it ironic, doncha think.
I had asked what frank had said to get previously banned that was worse than some his recent comments.

TBH, I wouldn't want to see him banned because it's too much fun making him twist like a pretzel when his statements contradict themselves and then he hides under the covers because he has no answers. He's constantly painting himself into corners. You can just feel the steam coming out of his ears.
 

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I had asked what frank had said to get previously banned that was worse than some his recent comments.

TBH, I wouldn't want to see him banned because it's too much fun making him twist like a pretzel when his statements contradict themselves and then he hides under the covers because he has no answers. He's constantly painting himself into corners. You can just feel the steam coming out of his ears.
I think there is too much denseness for that to happen. I have experience talking to Jebus cultists, no matter what, they just don't get it, no matter how obvious it is. People like that annoy me to no end.
 

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Of course you have. Despite me repeatedly asking, you have given not one shred of evidence how a bilateral negotiation to bring about a ceasefire could possibly be faster than a unilateral Hamas surrender, which requires zero negotiation and the fighting stops immediately. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO DEFEND YOUR POSITION..

C'mon wiseguy. Show us how your plan is faster than mine in terms of stopping the hostilities. You cannot. You are admitting that you are cool with more Palestinians dying.
You think telling the rape victim to stop resisting will end the rape.

From the ICJ today.
Hassim explains the situation in Gaza

‘Israel’s second genocidal act’

Hassim now moves to what she defines as Israel’s second genocidal act:

 

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The question was dumb. My answer was appropriate. And actually, the whole world outside of Arabia agreed about Jews getting their own homeland. Even the Germans.
Wrong.



Compare that with a vote on whether Palestinians have the right to self determination.

 

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You've been talking a lot today about trying to get me banned. You must be getting frustrated at having your BS exposed for what it is.

There will be no ceasefire because Hamas has proven that they will not honour one. So either Hamas surrenders and the fighting immediately stops or Hamas keeps fighting and more Palestinians die. Which do you choose?

With the amount of deaths and destruction in Gaza since Oct. 7, do you think that the Hamas terror attack on that date was a smart move?

What percentage of Jews in Israel do consider to be Zionists?
The ICJ trial has started.
Israel are shitting their pants

 

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shack said:
Of course you have. You are unable/unwilling to provide any evidence how a bilateral ceasefire, which requires negotiation could possibly produce a faster cessation of the hostilities than a unilateral surrender by Hamas which requires no negotiations. It is physically impossible.

It is universally accepted that the sooner hostilities stop, the sooner Palestinian deaths will occur.




Actually, it is your ramblings that are being torn to shreds.

BTW, is that your evidence of how a bilaterally negotiated ceasefire, with other countries being involved in the talks would stop the fighting faster than a unilateral Hamas surrender that requires ZERO negotiation? LOL. You are too funny and a response like that is an outright admission that you know I'm correct. But you want Hamas to continue fighting knowing full well it will result in many more Palestinian deaths. The only conclusion is that you are cool with that. You have no problem if another 500,000 Palestinians die.

Now who is the one calling for genocide? It sure isn't me.
A ceasefire only requires one phone call from Biden.
That would be the fastest.

 

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You think telling the rape victim to stop resisting will end the rape.
You've tried that lame analogy already. Who cares? This is a war, not a rape. So it is an invalid question.

You have conceded that I am right. You have provided no counter argument. Not one salient point. A unilateral surrender by Hamas brings an automatic end to the violence, much faster than a multilateral negotiation for a ceasefire. And you have no contact with reality if you think there is any chance of Israel agreeing to a surrender at this point.

Should Hamas surrender and save lives or are you ok with Hamas continuing to fight resulting in the deaths of another 500,000, and these are your exact words to describe the Palestinians, lesser humans.
 

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The ICJ trial has started.
Israel are shitting their pants
Hardly. Truth be told, your arguments are so filled with hate on top of being so weak, you've been shitting the bed since Oct. 7. You are an embarrassment to yourself.

Oct. 7 Assaults, Including Sexual Violence, Could Be Crimes Against Humanity, U.N. Experts Say - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Violence that included sexual atrocities committed during the Hamas-led attacks on Oct. 7 in Israel amounts to war crimes and may also be crimes against humanity, two United Nations human rights experts said on Monday, following months of frustrated accusations from Israel and women’s groups that the U.N. was ignoring the rape and sexual mutilation of women during the Oct. 7 invasion.
 

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You've tried that lame analogy already. Who cares? This is a war, not a rape. So it is an invalid question.

You have conceded that I am right. You have provided no counter argument. Not one salient point. A unilateral surrender by Hamas brings an automatic end to the violence, much faster than a multilateral negotiation for a ceasefire. And you have no contact with reality if you think there is any chance of Israel agreeing to a surrender at this point.

Should Hamas surrender and save lives or are you ok with Hamas continuing to fight resulting in the deaths of another 500,000, and these are your exact words to describe the Palestinians, lesser humans.
You are wrong.

This is not a war, its a genocide against an occupied people.
Gaza is not a state.

 

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Hardly. Truth be told, your arguments are so filled with hate on top of being so weak, you've been shitting the bed since Oct. 7. You are an embarrassment to yourself.

Oct. 7 Assaults, Including Sexual Violence, Could Be Crimes Against Humanity, U.N. Experts Say - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Violence that included sexual atrocities committed during the Hamas-led attacks on Oct. 7 in Israel amounts to war crimes and may also be crimes against humanity, two United Nations human rights experts said on Monday, following months of frustrated accusations from Israel and women’s groups that the U.N. was ignoring the rape and sexual mutilation of women during the Oct. 7 invasion.
'Could be crimes'.

Meanwhile Israel is in court at the ICJ for genocide today.
 
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