Israel at war

mandrill

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No. Because we had lands rich in natural resources, human capital, wealth, tasty food and culture, that we did not have the need to go invade other people's cold, snowy lands. We minded our own business, unlike the Europeans, who stole and brutalized the entire world and continue to do it or support those who do it even in the 21st century, while claiming to be the guardians of civilization (which they are not).
Yuh. You didn't need steam locomotives because India was doing just fine - aside from a famine every few months. The British built railways to transport excess food from one region to another to prevent starvation because India was too fucked up and useless to do that for herself.

You people should give 1/2 your GDP each year to the British to thank them for saving your asses so much. 😏
 
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nottyboi

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Considering that people who built todays civilization don’t feel like multiplying while poor and dumb of the world do, the demographic trends look pretty bad for the entire world
The ones multiplying in Israel are the Orthodox. & kids, welfare no military. Some of them feel the existance of Israel is a sin and against the Torah. .
 
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Waste of good ammunition. A tactical nuclear weapon could wipe out Gaza cleanly without putting any Israeli lives at risk.
Don't you think that would reduce the value of the real estate and shower the rest of Israel with radioactive dust?
 

nottyboi

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Let's do an example. I have a neighbour who comes over to my house with a knife and a pair of pliers and cuts my fingers off every Monday. Now this is not an "existential threat", but it is nasty. Do I get to defend myself against that neighbour or not?
you can defend youself up to and including killing him. However, you are not allowed go to his house and kill all his kids, his entire family, neighbours and demolish her houses. If you had booted his family out of their houses through force of arms, then you deserve it and I will be there to add salt for my own amusement.
 

shack

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Surrender by Israel would be even better. Solving the Gaza, West Bank and Lebanon problems in an instant. Don’t you agree sad Shack?
Yes, the side that's winning usually surrenders. Don't you think that it's Hamas' responsibility to protect their own citizens, not Israel?

As you like to say, DELUSIONAL.
 

shack

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The right to vote, is not the only thing that is linked or even the most important thing with Apartheid.
Yes. Being disenfranchised is the most important. That is your typical play. Dismiss a point out of hand because you can't provide a logical rebuttal.

The definition of apartheid, per international law, which is the only definition that matters, which is universally accepted and applied equally to all nations, shows that Israel is an apartheid state.
They changed the original definition as it explicitly applied to S. African policy. That policy did not affect any non-citizens. If you want to include a policy designed against foreigners, call it something else. It is not how the S. Africans applied that term.

Is it not apartheid that the US does not allow some of its' citizens to vote?
Is it not apartheid that the US does not allow non-citizen refugees to cross the border freely like Americans do?
Is it not apartheid that there is not country in the world that allows non-citizens to vote.

It's only apartheid if it's the Jews doing it. The UN is as "neutral" LOL as you.

No Jews. No news.
 

shack

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I understood your post.
You're just trying to walk back calling genocide as serious as a hangnail.
Evidently you are that obtuse.

You are the one making the equivalence. You make everything Israel does, no matter how minor, sound like a war crime. After a while when you use it so often and so frivolously, it loses its' significance and impact. As such, people get desensitized to the term and it is interpreted with same degree of seriousness as a hangnail.

This is what happens when you keep calling wolf. After a while, people tune you out. If you weren't such a drama queen, maybe you'd become marginally relevant.
 
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