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nottyboi

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Butler1000 said:
Lol. It's stating the truth. The reasons don't matter to the conversation. The point is your idea has little to zero merit BECAUSE of the reality.

The Gazans aren't going anywhere right away. That line at the 7 mile mark is going to be the new border. They are just going to be further crammed in. And there will be a trickle out of refugees over the next decade. A wall will go up, again. To stop the inevitable rock throwers.

And after they bulldoze the whole northern section down, use the tunnels to rebuild a sewer/infrastructure network a new set of settlers will move in.

And there is nothing anyone will be able to do about it.
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Reality changes. We shall see what the arabs do after all Lebanon is also on the zionist agenda.
 
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nottyboi said:
Was there a Hamas before Isreali oppression of the palis started?
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There was no Hamas....there was PLO...then they realized they can't beat Israel so ceasefire ensued....Hamas isn't smart enough to do that...
 
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No Israel didn't want peace that is why Hamas formed and why Israel funded Hamas. They needed a terror org for their zionist plans.
 
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richaceg said:
YOu really think Hamas is for peace with the jews?

On the destruction of Israel:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (Preamble)



The exclusive Moslem nature of the area:

"The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it." (Article 11)

"Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be." (Article 13)



The call to jihad:

"The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised
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No that is why Israel funded it. But things can change. The direction of Hamas will not be decided by Hamas but by those that support it.
 
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nottyboi said:
Reality changes. We shall see what the arabs do after all Lebanon is also on the zionist agenda.
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The Arabs will take their cues from Saudi Arabia. And they are going to hold until the heat drops then sign a peace treaty/trade agreement/expanded security agreement with Israel. Egypt and Jordan will maibtain their agreements. Syria is going to be in its civil war for a long time yet. Iran will lay low, but now also may have a new Sunni front with ISIS to deal with.

And anything in Lebanon is also ad hoc. Lots of little groups with minimal central control. The actual Hezbollah is a part of the Govt so has to be more conservative in their actions for deniability.

The rest are tinpots and won't be factors.

The Sunnis actully consider the Shias to be the greater threat then Israel. And will act accordingly.
 
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nottyboi said:
israel will be defeated, what happens next we will see.
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Defeated by who and how? Israel is just regrouping and rotating forces. That entire northern part is about to be completely depopulated. The wall will go up soon. After that a few years of rock throwing because the southern part will be too busy trying to survive to organize a real resistance.

The Loose Hamas Alliance of the various brigades, terrorists and sreet gangs is now essentially broken. No communication, little resources and being hunted. They will either be forced underground or be defeated in detail.

Its going to be rough. The guerilla warfare starts now. But Israel is determined.
 
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Butler1000 said:
Defeated by who and how? Israel is just regrouping and rotating forces. That entire northern part is about to be completely depopulated. The wall will go up soon. After that a few years of rock throwing because the southern part will be too busy trying to survive to organize a real resistance.

The Loose Hamas Alliance of the various brigades, terrorists and sreet gangs is now essentially broken. No communication, little resources and being hunted. They will either be forced underground or be defeated in detail.

Its going to be rough. The guerilla warfare starts now. But Israel is determined.
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Butler1000 said:
The Arabs will take their cues from Saudi Arabia. And they are going to hold until the heat drops then sign a peace treaty/trade agreement/expanded security agreement with Israel. Egypt and Jordan will maibtain their agreements. Syria is going to be in its civil war for a long time yet. Iran will lay low, but now also may have a new Sunni front with ISIS to deal with.

And anything in Lebanon is also ad hoc. Lots of little groups with minimal central control. The actual Hezbollah is a part of the Govt so has to be more conservative in their actions for deniability.

The rest are tinpots and won't be factors.

The Sunnis actully consider the Shias to be the greater threat then Israel. And will act accordingly.
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Moronic
 
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