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Israel at war

Butler1000

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Nothng you said renders my idea meritless. The option is to have a bumpy road to a possible peace or a forever war. All you have is "lets do nothing because its too hard" 🙄 Your scenario is maybe one outcome. Another outcome is that these refugees trickle out including Hamas members, that will relocate and continue to strike Israel and Israeli interests from multiple directions. In any case, many Isralis are leaving as they see years of war ahead. So the Israeli economy has been ruined.
I'm sure the terrorists will continue, giving Israel the reasons they need. But they are a bunch of small groups with no cohesion, and minimal funding. Israel is a nation state with Western backing.

And no the economy of Israel is not ruined. It was far worse decades ago at its inception and still survived things. Now it has more money, and more foreign aid, as well as rich patrons in the west to help with loans and grants.

And once the Saudis come back in to a peace deal its over.
 

Klatuu

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I'm sure the terrorists will continue, giving Israel the reasons they need. But they are a bunch of small groups with no cohesion, and minimal funding. Israel is a nation state with Western backing.

And no the economy of Israel is not ruined. It was far worse decades ago at its inception and still survived things. Now it has more money, and more foreign aid, as well as rich patrons in the west to help with loans and grants.

And once the Saudis come back in to a peace deal its over.
Delusional. You can’t put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
 

Frankfooter

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seen the videos, looked at the photos franky....there are victims from war, not intentionally targeted....unlike what Hamas did....I know it hurts your feelings but, the stupidity of your posts is very entertaining...Hamas isn't the problem? they didn't want ceasefire....you should fly to Gaza and ask them...
You have repeatedly stated that everything Israel targets is by choice and that they have the best intel and weapons.
So killing 12,000 children was by intent, which is genocide.

 
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Frankfooter

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YOu really think Hamas is for peace with the jews?

On the destruction of Israel:

"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it." (Preamble)



The exclusive Moslem nature of the area:

"The land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf [Holy Possession] consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgment Day. No one can renounce it or any part, or abandon it or any part of it." (Article 11)

"Palestine is an Islamic land... Since this is the case, the Liberation of Palestine is an individual duty for every Moslem wherever he may be." (Article 13)



The call to jihad:

"The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised
Israeli politicians and military have repeatedly said worse.
There are 9 pages of quotes at the ICJ.

So why is it ok when Israel does it and commits genocide and Hamas says it and has never done it?
 
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richaceg

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Israeli politicians and military have repeatedly said worse.
There are 9 pages of quotes at the ICJ.

So why is it ok when Israel does it and commits genocide and Hamas says it and has never done it?
more stupid claims....this was a covenant. signed by the founders....this is their objective...genocidal maniacs...
 

Frankfooter

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Nice try....Hamas intentionally put civilians in the line of fire when Israel retaliates....Palestinian blood in Hamas hands, plain and simple.
Put them in line?

Gaza is a concentration camp, there is nowhere safe for civilians to go.
That is by Israeli design.

They dropped 3x the explosive power of Hiroshima in an area the size of the isle of Montreal.
By choice.
 

Frankfooter

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more stupid claims....this was a covenant. signed by the founders....this is their objective...genocidal maniacs...
Bullshit, they updated it and removed that language while the Likud charter still says they want all of Palestine.
If you're going by words and intent you lose that argument as well.

All you're left with is becoming the new nazis.

1000 children had to undergo amputations with no anaesthetic by Israeli actions.

 

richaceg

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You're really trying to justify genocide by yelling out your racist hatred of Palestinians.
You are worse than Hamas now.
In your opinion anybody who's against Hamas is worse than Hamas...."Hamas isn't the problem" that's your stance so who else is surprise? Palestinians suffer under Hamas...and you support Hamas...you are part of the problem...
 

Klatuu

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In your opinion anybody who's against Hamas is worse than Hamas...."Hamas isn't the problem" that's your stance so who else is surprise? Palestinians suffer under Hamas...and you support Hamas...you are part of the problem...
Delusional
 
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nottyboi

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In your opinion anybody who's against Hamas is worse than Hamas...."Hamas isn't the problem" that's your stance so who else is surprise? Palestinians suffer under Hamas...and you support Hamas...you are part of the problem...
Was there a Hamas before Isreali oppression of the palis started?
 
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