Israel at war

Klatuu

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Nice try.

According to Wikipedia:
In 2000 the combined population of Gaza and the West Bank was 3.11 million
The current population is a bit over. 4.5 million.
That's an increase of close to 50%.

And you guys want us to believe that Israel is committed to genocide? They are damn incompetent.
Like you people don't know how to stop lying.

When I said nice try, I meant nice try at deception.

So just to clarify, you'll also be satisfied with 500,000 dead Palestinians, just like frank? You are cool with that?
Thought disorder.
 

shack

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Its not pretty but I don't see how they had any other reasonable options. Please advise of the reasonable solution I somehow missed.
Please allow me to offer some humanitarian aid to a lost soul. Hopefully Hamas won't steal it before it reaches you. When somebody's mind is obsessed with violence, racism and hatred I can see how negotiation and diplomacy may be overlooked.

How many times has Hamas made a formal request for formal negotiations with mediators to try to resolve their complaints since they've been in power?

How many times has Hamas resorted to violence, rockets and terror attacks to try to resolve their complaints since they've been in power?

But maybe trying to recognize Israel's right to exist is something that you would deem "unreasonable" for Hamas to undertake. Do you think that it is unreasonable for Israel to expect to be given a right to exist?
 

shack

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You are so proficient at the one word, meritless responses, you have no equals. I admire you Kla d'uhh.

Why haven't you called me Shack of sit the last couple of days? Do you not love me anymore?

I need to check out the "Bi, Gay and Trans Review" section. Hamas hates and would love to decapitate those guys even though what they do is totally normal.

What are your feelings on that?
 
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Butler1000

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Vs the choice of 4m Pali refugees from the Israeli genocide? Seriously? Of course they would
No they won't. Egypt has already threateded to kill any Palestinians who attempt to cross the border. The Saudis have already basically said the peace talks will come back on.

And there is no possible way Iran will be allowed to peacekeep. Who is left? The rest are either overwhrlmed with domestic problems or too small to actually handle it.
 

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Remember I posted that map yesterday showing Israel holding about 90% of Gaza City?

Yup. They got that 90% by killing Hamas.

You're about as quaint as Frankie telling us that Israel would give up and let the Palestinians win if enough people demonstrate against Israel in the West. So get your placard and button up that overcoat!
So why do they have to keep fighting if they control all of Gaza?

What do you think the endgame is now?
Do they have to kill all males of age in Gaza?
All women who can breed?
All children?

Do they try to push them into the sea?

 
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Frankfooter

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Nice try.

According to Wikipedia:
In 2000 the combined population of Gaza and the West Bank was 3.11 million
The current population is a bit over. 4.5 million.
That's an increase of close to 50%.

And you guys want us to believe that Israel is committed to genocide? They are damn incompetent.
Like you people don't know how to stop lying.

When I said nice try, I meant nice try at deception.

So just to clarify, you'll also be satisfied with 500,000 dead Palestinians, just like frank? You are cool with that?
I think this post makes you a distant third.
The legal defence for team genocide is pretty shitty, with pedophile, underwear man Dersh as captain and Mandrill 'Frankie its war' as the second.
But your work makes them look like Jack Smith.

Its one week until the ICJ, you need to do better.
 
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Klatuu

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You are so proficient at the one word, meritless responses, you have no equals. I admire you Kla d'uhh.

Why haven't you called me Shack of sit the last couple of days? Do you not love me anymore?

I need to check out the "Bi, Gay and Trans Review" section. Hamas hates and would love to decapitate those guys even though what they do is totally normal.

What are your feelings on that?
Unbalanced
 

shack

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I am talking about the last 100 years.

Let me give you a few hints: WW2, The Holocaust, The Soviet Union, Vietnam, War on terror.

And you have what? Let's see - Armenian genocide, terrorism. Anything else?

It is not even close. Murders committed by Christian states, and entities far outnumber any one killed by Muslim states or entities.
How about the last 50 years

Iran/Iraq war
Yemen civil war
Syrian civil war
Hamas
Hezbollah
PLO
Sudan
Darfur
Twin Towers


Cross out WWII
Cross out the Holocaust
Cross out Armenia
 

Valcazar

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I don't know. Do you think that it would be worth risking?

Again, is it worth taking that risk?
So the Cheney doctrine, then?
"If there is even a 1% chance we must treat it as a 100% chance," is that it?
Under that criteria, you are saying Israel should bomb Gaza forever, right?
You can never be sure that the risk is zero, so bomb.

No. Only until Hamas surrenders and gives up the hostages. Do you agree that Hamas should surrender so Israel can call off their assault?
Of course.
Hamas is pretty horrific.
But "Hamas surrenders" doesn't solve your problem, does it?
Since they can always start attacks again, you have to keep on bombing.

There haven't been any in almost 20 years. Einstein said it's time to change things up unless you are insane.
So there have been no elections, therefore there should never be elections?
Or is it elections happen when the bombing stops, which is never?
Or is it "no elections, just rule by Israel"?

Again - as I mentioned earlier in the thread - what is the end game here besides "keep bombing"?

Israel has the finest intelligence in the world. The proof is in the pudding. They knew exactly how to find those 7 Hamas terrorists in Lebanon two days ago. So yes, Israel will indeed know.
So no criteria or plan, just "Israel will stop when it feels like it"?
 

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Remember I posted that map yesterday showing Israel holding about 90% of Gaza City?

Yup. They got that 90% by killing Hamas.

You're about as quaint as Frankie telling us that Israel would give up and let the Palestinians win if enough people demonstrate against Israel in the West. So get your placard and button up that overcoat!
Wait, you are telling me they havent even occupied all of gaza city??? Man this is worse than i thought. No wonder israel changed tactics, clearly whatever they did was not working.
 
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