Israel at war

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You don't get it do you?

Hamas intentionally targeted civilians. Documented the attack, celebrated the kills they inflicted (civilians or not). Paraded the bodies and still didn't stop firing rockets up to now (so why are nobody calling Hamas for ceasefire?). IDF meticulously selected targets and not just bombed Gaza to oblivion (which they can probably do). If Israel wanted to kill 10000 children and 50k civilian adults.... carpet bombing is the way to go...but they didn't do that....the numbers you pull are also "claims" and unproven but you keep saying as if it's true...such a textbook franky move... blabbering without a reliable source. It wouldn't require basic common sense...pro palestinians keep crying genocide...when Hamas covenant is the one that says they want to get rid of all the jews....they just can't and it frustrates people like you....I know.
You are wrong. He gets it all. It's just that his hatred of Jews does not allow him to accept the reality of what you are saying.
 
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Here you go. These are the genuine worst countries in the world for starvation.

An Arab country, Yemen is #3 on the list.


3. Yemen
  • GHI score in 2000: 41.4
  • GHI score in 2008: 37.8
  • GHI score in 2015: 42.1
  • GHI score in 2023: 39.9

Yemen is at the centre of one of the world’s worst humanitarian crises, suffering from conflict within its own borders as well as the effects of conflict around the world. Since the start of the Yemeni Civil War in 2014, poverty has increased dramatically and the country’s economy has been shattered. Devastated public health and water and sanitation systems have also led to high case numbers of cholera, measles, and polio (among others). This makes malnutrition an even more deadly condition. Its dependency on Russia and Ukraine for wheat imports has furthered levels of food insecurity and pushed the prices of basic goods even further out of reach.


 

mandrill

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But massacring 20000+ civilians is A-okay for you in your bizzaro world. Expressing heartfelt sorrow for 1200 people many of whom were killed by the IDF themselves, while gloating, cheering, jeering and egging on war crimes and genocide, is racism 101.
But I don't "gloat, cheer and jeer", not am I a "racist", except in the fantasy world of you and your friends.

Here is my position.

Israel has no option but to remove Hamas after the rocket attack campaign and 7 October and the statements that Hamas intends to continue to attack Israel. NO COUNTRY is going to allow a hostile regime to continue to attack its civilians.

Hamas has embedded in the civilian population in Gaza and this makes it impossible to remove Hamas without inflicting material damage and civilian casualties. So these happen. Israel has taken steps to limit these as required by international law. So no "war crimes". And no "genocide". The civilian casualties are not excessive, given the urban battlefield. I know you don't accept that; but urban fighting always involves very heavy civilian casualties. There's a bunch of information out there on that.

This is bad, as is the food shortage. But NO COUNTRY is going to allow a terror regime to actively operate on its borders. And neither will Israel. The only alternative to the events unfolding now is if Hamas were to give back the hostages and surrender. Hamas will not do that. So the war is going to play out for a couple more weeks with more civilian suffering.

The Hamas leadership will milk the photos of suffering Palestinian kids for more $$$$ because Hamas dgaf about their own people. They love "martyrs". Listen to any Hamas leader being interviewed.

If Israel launched an unprovoked ghastly attack on Gaza on 7 October, my sympathies would be reversed.

How upset are you about the completely unnecessary civilian casualties Hezbollah is currently inflicting on Israel? You don't seem to give a shit about those? Why, Kauty? Because those civilians being killed are white (some of them) and not brown?

So go put me back on mute.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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But massacring 20000+ civilians is A-okay for you in your bizzaro world. Expressing heartfelt sorrow for 1200 people many of whom were killed by the IDF themselves, while gloating, cheering, jeering and egging on war crimes and genocide, is racism 101
How do you expect us to feel sorry for them when they've been filmed cheering on the rape, torture and murder of 1,200 Israelis??
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The entire formation of Israel is an occupation. But aside from that, Gaza and the West Bank are the same Palestinian lands. And Israel builds settlements and occupies territory. Learn some history
Oh I know history better than you. There never was a country called Palestine before 1947.
There was only a region on the maps called Palestine which had a few scattered desert nomads living there.

Israel however was a country thousands of years ago. If anyone deserves that piece of land its the Jews
 
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