Cybertruck Question

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Buying Tesla means supporting Musk, who has a history of very racist tweets. He doesn't care about anyone but himself, not even his shareholders. He told his advertisers to fuck off, he'll tweet what he wants. He has a very sordid past in how he dealt with businesses and people. Definitely not the genius he portrays himself to be, more of a con man.

He is undoubtedly the world's smartest idiot.

 
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I bet dollars to donuts that all of you that are crapping on Tesla and EVs have never tried one and don’t know what you are talking about. I have one and it is the best car I have ever owned. Winter will see a drop in range, but for 99% of my driving (under 250km), it is not an issue. Supercharger network is amazing, fast and reliable. Went on many road trips and a bit slower than gas, but not by much. My last trip was to Quebec City, Charge to 100% which wI’ll take me to Kingston with plenty to spare. Charge at supercharger while having lunch at Panera for 20min and drive into Montreal downtown where I park and get free charge. In Quebec City, free charge again. Thought I wanted ice, but because of all the supply chain issues, went with Tesla instead. Happy that I did. Build quality has been great and way overblown. Over 50k and no issues to report. Cheap to run and goes like stink. Btw. i happen to like the cybertruck.
 

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I am hoping that more hydrogen powered cars and trucks come on-line, I can't imagine having to stop on highway service area and wait in long lines to get car charged. Charging stations work well now because of the low volume of e-cars but the shift is coming...even if the cons win the next election.
 
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The Cybertruck is ugly....though intriguing... But, the fact that it costs significantly more than what Musk said it would, and that it has far fewer features than promised makes me question it. Plus, it looks fairly impractical compared to other pickup trucks. Then you also need to look at Tesla as a company. They seem to be hucksters. Ranges they promote are never accurate, and the whole auto pilot fiasco makes you wonder about all the other claims they make.

I too wished that hydrogen car would come online. But, the EVs are likely the future. They will develop batteries with greater range and quicker charging times, and the charging network will continue to grow. Remember, gas stations weren't ubiquitous in the 1920s, it took decades to build the number of stations across Canada and the US. But the EV charging network will grow much faster...
 

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I'm waiting for the transformer model 🎶more than meets the eyes🎶...
 

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The Cybertruck is ugly....though intriguing... But, the fact that it costs significantly more than what Musk said it would, and that it has far fewer features than promised makes me question it. Plus, it looks fairly impractical compared to other pickup trucks. Then you also need to look at Tesla as a company. They seem to be hucksters. Ranges they promote are never accurate, and the whole auto pilot fiasco makes you wonder about all the other claims they make.

I too wished that hydrogen car would come online. But, the EVs are likely the future. They will develop batteries with greater range and quicker charging times, and the charging network will continue to grow. Remember, gas stations weren't ubiquitous in the 1920s, it took decades to build the number of stations across Canada and the US. But the EV charging network will grow much faster...
I don't remember the 20's. Time will tell who will be the betamax and who will be VHS in this pending tech war. I am hoping hydrogen so that there will be less pollution from the processing of the rare earth minerals and lithium.
 
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I don't think most people like the look of the cyber truck, and of course being associated with Musk comes with other connotations. When it was first introduced, the handful of truck/van owners that I know all seemed to complain about how it simply does not fit the role their pickups/vans fill. As for being a SUV type car, it just seems inconvenient and ugly to my remaining friends.

As far as EVs go, I've owned a fully electric car for a year now. I made the decision rather opportunistically when shopping for a new vehicle because it seemed to fit my needs at the time. I can honestly tell you that I haven't looked back. I totally understand that EVs just don't fit a lot of people's lifestyles, but it works great for me. I began working remotely and far away from downtown, 2 years before the pandemic hit. During those days, my gas expense was noticeable, now I pay $15 a month(the app helps track and calculate) while driving my vehicle casually throughout that month. It has a range of 350km on avg and really only requires charging once or twice a week at most.

One other thing I want to mention, is that when I was buying my current car, the dealer presented a hybrid option in a suv. I got to try that hybrid suv once as a loaner and it was the worst experience. I'm glad someone else in this thread pointed out how bad they seem to be. And I don't have to be a car expert to tell you that getting 35km(which is stated but is almost always less) worth of electric driving vs just gas driving is dumb.

Sorry for deviating away from the initial question in my response.
 

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I don't remember the 20's. Time will tell who will be the betamax and who will be VHS in this pending tech war. I am hoping hydrogen so that there will be less pollution from the processing of the rare earth minerals and lithium.
I don't disagree. But hydrogen has been in the works for like 30 years. I recall there was a company in the early 2000s called Ballard Power Systems or something in BC. They were working on this, but it never got off the ground in a large way (as far as I know). Hydrogen is ideal, you burn it and it produces water. But....it is also kind of explosive....a la the Hindengerg...

But, all things considered, looking at what Tesla lied about the quality of its vehicles, random explosions seem par for the course...
 

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Hello everyone,

If you're in market for an electric vehicle (SUV or bigger) in 3-5 years, would you consider cybertruck as an option? If so, have you already added your name in the waiting list with the deposit? How did you narrow down the choice?

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Cybertruck I bay far superior then anything on the market ATM! It has been engineered and optimized to perfection. They just don’t understand this part yet.

The reason it looks like that is because it has the air drag coefficient of a hyper car and engineered based on performance plus the matte black one looks sick and you can wrap it how you like


Your biggest disadvantage owning one is dealing with the programmed anti Musk cult. Also a lot of people will be envy and hate you for it. Some might even try to attack you for it, will see you as their enemy will try to scratch your car or throw stuff at it. Luckily Teslas have cameras all around and century mode and capture these people so these incidents are getting less with more and more Tesla’s on the road. Just look around they are everywhere now.

If you read the comments on here you will realize most people don’t have a clue what they are talking about but just regurgitating what they are told to think and say like some programmed echo bot.

Don’t listen to me and don’t listen to them. Approach at least 3 Tesla owners 3+ years and chances are very high they will tell you they love their cars and lack of maintenance.

Since the Cybertruck is very durable and tough you won’t need to worry much about cosmetic damage.

I placed pre-order for the dual motors that can tow 10,000 pounds. I am like 300,000 on the list. You can also get a battery range extender that can extend range to over 460 miles. It could weight additional 500lbs and reduces your truck bed space.

Some things that are really good about Cybertruck is steer by wire and all wheel steering meaning you get very tight radiu. It is very fast and you can also use it to charge your house or other EVs because it has like 122 kWh battery. It also has boat mode that can theoretically float on water for a few hundred meters. They are still working this out.

Many places offer free charging like malls and gyms and there is a huge network for this. You will also need to install a 50 amp charger at home.

Model Y is one of the best selling EVs in the world.

Disadvantage is cost and of you are only reliant on electricity you probably need to have solar and batter back up cause in the rare event power outage you will be screwed. Also the range will get hit by approximately 15-20% in the first few years and then stabilize. Also during winter your range suffers as with all EVs but they are still worth it. Again talk to existing long term Tesla owners. They say you should be getting 300,000 to 500,000 miles or around 1,500 battery cycles. Many people have done this much driving. Remember the 8-10 years is just what they will replace the battery. You will also have very little maintenance fees over its life and that steel body will last forever.

The best solution overall is a plug in hybrid not hybrid like the people who commented in this thread have 0 clue based on what they are saying. With plug in hybrid you will get really good range just on gas and 80+ kilometres just on battery. If you are doing short trips you can just charge on electric not use any gas and easily get over 1500 km. For this option you have Kia, Mitsubishi and Ford. You also get $5,000 fed incentives. I still don’t know if I will be able to afford Cybertruck when my order comes up. It is far superior in terms of quality and engineering but plug in hybrid are a good solution for people who want to save on gas and have two options such as in case gas is high or runs out or electricity is high or runs out. Also many plug in hybrids will also let you run a house through the gas generator or their internal battery pack. It will cost around $20-25 dollars to fully charge a Cybertruck at home off peak. It cost about $2 to charge plug in hybrid at home and get like 80km.

Like I said talk to someone who owns a Tesla and has been driving one for a while. At all costs avoid the anti Tesla programmed cult. There are many videos that cover its features well. Do you research and see if these people are really Tesla shills or anti Tesla cults or some other ideological cult telling them Musk is their anti christ.

My last piece of advice is simply test drive it. Test drive the ford lighting. Now you can easily test drive a model Y. It will give you an idea of the insane power, torque, speed, quality and comfort. It’s hard not to have a simile after test driving one because your just press the gas peddle it goes and passes moving cars like its nothing. When I test drove the model y I hit the speed limiter the dealership set at 137 3 times and didn’t even know it until it beeped at me. The ride quality was extremely comfortable. With the Cybertruck depending on the tires you get this could vary.

Also don’t let this cult on here bully you. You quickly realize who the people are, how prolific of posting they do to defend their cult beliefs and how much they are against you having an opinion that is different then their own. It’s not worth it trying to reason with them. Just a waste of time. No amount of reason will get through.

 
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Now that it's out in production and many reviews are in, what is your opinion on it?
We'll see what comes out of it.
You'll have to sort through the desperate Elon fan boys spreading bullshit to cover up any criticism of their great idol, though.
It will be hard to get legitimate reviews for a while, and the online stuff (especially on X) will be flooded by supporters trying to insist all critics are just jealous haters and that they really LOVE their trucks just like all Tesla owners LOVE Tesla. (That's been the tactic for a while.)


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We'll see what comes out of it.
You'll have to sort through the desperate Elon fan boys spreading bullshit to cover up any criticism of their great idol, though.
It will be hard to get legitimate reviews for a while, and the online stuff (especially on X) will be flooded by supporters trying to insist all critics are just jealous haters and that they really LOVE their trucks just like all Tesla owners LOVE Tesla. (That's been the tactic for a while.)
Very true... My friend has a body shop that's repaired high end cars along with Teslas for many years. When I asked him what their build quality was like, he laughed. Adding, once you remove the panels, it reveals how poorly they're put together. Keep in mind, the base model Tesla Y is over $65K.

He did say they're getting better, but keep in mind, you're talking BMW, Mercedes, Porsche kinda money for them.
 

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Very true... My friend has a body shop that's repaired high end cars along with Teslas for many years. When I asked him what their build quality was like, he laughed. Adding, once you remove the panels, it reveals how poorly they're put together. Keep in mind, the base model Tesla Y is over $65K.

He did say they're getting better, but keep in mind, you're talking BMW, Mercedes, Porsche kinda money for them.
Wrong again. Base is $62,200 = final price with taxes and incentive. You guys don’t really know what you talking about however lcircle jerking each other and supporting misinformation and just desperately latching onto to any negative Tesla news.
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Here is a review from a mechanic who hates Tesla quality including the panel gaps issue and admits how advanced their heat pump system is and far beyond anything out on the market. I doubt you will even watch the video case it won’t support your anti Tesla bias.

Also listen to yourself a the only smart thing that you believe can come up with is pane gaps 🤦‍♂️ what a joke

 

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Wrong again. Base is $62,200 = final price with taxes and incentive. You guys don’t really know what you talking about however lcircle jerking each other and supporting misinformation and just desperately latching onto to any negative Tesla news.
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Here is a review from a mechanic who hates Tesla quality including the panel gaps issue and admits how advanced their heat pump system is and far beyond anything out on the market. I doubt you will even watch the video case it won’t support your anti Tesla bias.

Also listen to yourself a the only smart thing that you believe can come up with is pane gaps 🤦‍♂️ what a joke
As they state, the tax is based on the purchase price. Therefore, the price comes in at $62,777.40 with the $5K rebate. So in reality, I was only off by $2,200 when I said it's a $65K car. Add in the price of a charging station for your home and you're back up to $65K. So don't tell me I'm wrong and providing misinformation when I'm totally in the ballpark.

Did you even read what I said? I wasn't talking about panel gaps. My friend who owns the certified Tesla body shop was talking about how the cars are assembled. He tells me it's the shit he sees when they removes the panels that makes him question the build quality. Compared to BMW, Mercedes, Porsche etc.

What our government doesn't understand, is Canadians will buy EVs when the convenience and price is right. They can mandate shit all they want, but they're going to miss their targets unless the consumers feel it's right. The average price for a EVs is currently $73K. That's got to come way down before the general public buys in.
 

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As they state, the tax is based on the purchase price. Therefore, the price comes in at $62,777.40 with the $5K rebate. So in reality, I was only off by $2,200 when I said it's a $65K car. Add in the price of a charging station for your home and you're back up to $65K. So don't tell me I'm wrong and providing misinformation when I'm totally in the ballpark.

Did you even read what I said? I wasn't talking about panel gaps. My friend who owns the certified Tesla body shop was talking about how the cars are assembled. He tells me it's the shit he sees when they removes the panels that makes him question the build quality. Compared to BMW, Mercedes, Porsche etc.

What our government doesn't understand, is Canadians will buy EVs when the convenience and price is right. They can mandate shit all they want, but they're going to miss their targets unless the consumers feel it's right. The average price for a EVs is currently $73K. That's got to come way down before the general public buys in.
The best solution now IMHO is a plug in hybrid not hybrid or EV. If you go for a Ford Escape PHEV you are looking under $50k with taxes and incentives and they are available. Downside is it’s a FWD. Don’t need to install charger because can plug them into regular outlets because their battery is like 20 kWh or under. Takes like 16hrs to fill on 15 amp circuit. On 30 amp like for your dryer you can charge them in 6.5 hrs. You can also get a 7 seater Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV AWD for about $50k taxes and incentives included. They are also available . Here you get 10 year warranty. Kia and Toyota plug in Hybrid SUVs are also really good but wait times are like 1-2 years. This is comparable to like CRV and the like however you will be saving a lot in gas especially if you do like 100km or less a day. Even if you do more you will also benefit and can easily cut your yearly bill in half. You can also power your house or just use gas or just use electricity. They also save your breaks because of the regen.

If money was not an issue I would get a Tesla however since I don’t PHEV is the next best thing. Still keeping my Cybertruck preorder to see what the actual price will be vs model Y vs PHEV. Unfortunately I already know the answer for me will be PHEV even though it’s very tempting and close to model Y. Also model y will give you best towing but at base your are looking at rwd which has its challenges in winter. You need to drop 10k more for AWD which is a must for many people.
 
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As much as I'd like to go electric, I have reservations about how practical an electric car/truck would be especially for long distance trips especially in the icy cold winters we have in Ontario. And then there's being stuck in a traffic jam. Nope, I'll stay with what I have until no choice but to go electric. In fact, I'd rather have a hybrid rather than electric vehicle.

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A battery-powered truck that needs to pull weight will never replace a gas powered truck...I'd consider a transportation that would take me from a to b but not for equipment and work....my ram will deliver my needs for the heavy stuff.
 

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Hey my friend, if you want to know info on any EV, including lived experience, ask me. Doug or otherwise, doug1.
Thanks and I will if and when I go EV. But right now I'm content using my very reliable not "gas guzzling" Toyota. And may your Christmas and New Years be a good one!

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I don’t think you guys realize what’s coming and where we are at. This is the best time to buy a Green Vehicle. You can still get a decent SUV for $50k and they are available. Many manufacturers can’t keep up with demand. See Kia and Toyota. When the masses realize what’s happening it will be too late, demand will be unbearable prices will be through the roof and companies like Tesla will dominate because they are building infrastructure and Giga factories everywhere preparing for this. You will be forced to carpool or take public transport to work lol

It’s funny but many of you guys don’t realize that you will have enough other choice but to drive electric or put out.

See Ultra Low Emission Zones such as in London…it’s coming whether you like it or not


BTW after the Cybertruck Tesla will work on their low cost vehicle for 2030 when this stuff is anticipated to be showed down our throats like foie gras…just ask a duck. It’s inevitable.
 
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