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Netanyahu and the IDF are very popular now.

Killed captive’s brother tells Israeli defence minister he would ‘haunt’ him in his sleep

Yonatan Shamriz, whose brother Alon was among the three Israeli captives killed by the military in Gaza, says that he angrily threatened Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant in a phone call.
“I told him I’d hunt after him until he is in the ground – him and everyone sitting there,” he told Israel’s Channel 12, according to quotes published by the Times of Israel. “[I told him] that they’re responsible for what happened.”

UN SC vote soon.
Can Israel rally this much support again?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1737662977095180653
 
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Well, it is not such a rosy picture as portrayed by Israel's army's offensive in Gaza:

Israel is losing the war against Hamas – but Netanyahu and his government will never admit it

The official narrative has been that Hamas is weakened, but in reality the IDF’s doctrine of massive force is failing

www.theguardian.com

Israel is losing the war against Hamas – but Netanyahu and his government will never admit it | Paul Rogers

The official narrative has been that Hamas is weakened, but in reality the IDF’s doctrine of massive force is failing, says academic Paul Rogers
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
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bver_hunter said:
Well, it is not such a rosy picture as portrayed by Israel's army's offensive in Gaza:

Israel is losing the war against Hamas – but Netanyahu and his government will never admit it

The official narrative has been that Hamas is weakened, but in reality the IDF’s doctrine of massive force is failing

www.theguardian.com

Israel is losing the war against Hamas – but Netanyahu and his government will never admit it | Paul Rogers

The official narrative has been that Hamas is weakened, but in reality the IDF’s doctrine of massive force is failing, says academic Paul Rogers
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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No. Just because some asshole writes an Op Ed in the Guardian does not make it true. Sorry.
 
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Kautilya said:
Its the same as fighting the Taliban. They can't beat you, but you can't win either. Ideologies cannot be defeated via bombings and people get ideologies mixed up with factions.
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The only smart thing that "The Muslim Brotherhood" has said on TERB this week.

But we'll see.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Netanyahu and the IDF are very popular now.

Killed captive’s brother tells Israeli defence minister he would ‘haunt’ him in his sleep
Yonatan Shamriz, whose brother Alon was among the three Israeli captives killed by the military in Gaza, says that he angrily threatened Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant in a phone call.
“I told him I’d hunt after him until he is in the ground – him and everyone sitting there,” he told Israel’s Channel 12, according to quotes published by the Times of Israel. “[I told him] that they’re responsible for what happened.”

UN SC vote soon.
Can Israel rally this much support again?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1737662977095180653
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But here's the difference, Farfar.

When Hamas kills Israelis, the IDF goes in after them and kills Hamas.

When the IDF kills Hamas, the Hamas guy's brother phones up the Israeli defence minister - at least according to this unlikely story - and says cheeky things to him.
 
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squeezer said:
The answer to the why is easy peasy. Why doesn't Hamas lay down their weapons, all surrender, give up their lavish lifestyle in Qatar and come in to face the music and lastly, RELEASE ALL THE DAMN hostages they took on their terrorist rampage on Oct. 7. SO simple yet, so hard to understand if you're standing firm on the side of Hamas.
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Hamas needs to be fully condemned for the massacre that started this whole war between them and Israel. But Netanyahu clearly stated that this war could last for months.
The reason is that the IDF are not presently eliminating that many Hamas militants. (See my above post) If Hamas were cornered they would have either killed or released all those hostages.
This will be a long dragged out war and the only victims are bound to be the Palestinian women and children. Unless both Netanyahu and Hamas agree to a Two State Solution I think that this will be just the beginning of a long conflict in the region that could eventually drag The West Bank into the mix!!
 
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mandrill said:
No. Just because some asshole writes an Op Ed in the Guardian does not make it true. Sorry.
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But then why does Netanyahu admit that this war will take a number of months and the end is not in sight?
See, you cannot trust all the facts from both sides of this conflict. What makes this Journalist an "asshole"? We have to wait to see whether what he stated has the substance or not. But with Netanyahu digging his heels into a long term conflict means once again that all is not that rosy on the Israeli side of the conflict. Otherwise why are also the vast majority of nations around the Globe wanting an immediate ceasefire?
 
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Kautilya said:
Well, so if you acknowledge that as smart, then it automatically follows that it makes no sense to carpet bomb Gaza, and kill 20,000 people. Will our resident TERB "Kahanists" now immediately pivot?
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That’s why IDF is not carpet bombing
 
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Phil C. McNasty said:
So the best you can come up with is a couple of disabled (not destroyed) tanks and that's all you got??!! :D
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Philomena…”.that’s all you got?” is the classic loser line.
 
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The majority of Israelis just do not support Netanyahu's handling of this crisis:

Poll shows Gantz’s party soaring as Likud nosedives, Smotrich out of Knesset
Survey finds National Unity leader preferred over Netanyahu for prime minister; Bennett, who could win 13 seats with a new party, also seen as a possible replacement

www.timesofisrael.com

Poll shows Gantz’s party soaring as Likud nosedives, Smotrich out of Knesset

Survey finds National Unity leader preferred over Netanyahu for prime minister; Bennett, who could win 13 seats with a new party, also seen as a possible replacement
www.timesofisrael.com www.timesofisrael.com
 
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mandrill said:
Israel isn't occupying Gaza, Farfar.

Hamas raided Israel and killed 1,200 Israelis. Just like Hitler invaded Poland and killed the Jews there.
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Israel occupies Gaza, Goebbels. Don't be idiotic, your propaganda game is old and tired.
Israel's blockade of Gaza is an act of war, the occupation is illegal, the blockade is illegal, apartheid is illegal.
On top of that Palestinians have the right to self defence against an illegal occupation.

The only points you get are that for the first time in 17 years Hamas got outside the concentration camp walls where Israel went nuts and implement the Hannibal Doctrine killing everyone on both sides. Nobody knows how many were killed by the IDF or Hamas, but there are a lot of destroyed cars and houses with tank damage. Regardless, Palestinian resistance to the occupation does not justify war crimes like genocide.

Nothing justifies genocide, Goebbels.

Q&A: Former UN expert stresses Israel’s occupation of Gaza never ended
Al Jazeera speaks to former UN special rapporteur Michael Lynk about reality of Israel’s control over besieged enclave.

The IDF story about what happened on Oct 7 is likely as accurate as their claims about al-Shifa.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1737963766485078314
 
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Frankfooter said:
Israel occupies Gaza, Goebbels. Don't be idiotic, your propaganda game is old and tired.
Israel's blockade of Gaza is an act of war, the occupation is illegal, the blockade is illegal, apartheid is illegal.
On top of that Palestinians have the right to self defence against an illegal occupation.

The only points you get are that for the first time in 17 years Hamas got outside the concentration camp walls where Israel went nuts and implement the Hannibal Doctrine killing everyone on both sides. Nobody knows how many were killed by the IDF or Hamas, but there are a lot of destroyed cars and houses with tank damage. Regardless, Palestinian resistance to the occupation does not justify war crimes like genocide.

Nothing justifies genocide, Goebbels.

Q&A: Former UN expert stresses Israel’s occupation of Gaza never ended
Al Jazeera speaks to former UN special rapporteur Michael Lynk about reality of Israel’s control over besieged enclave.

The IDF story about what happened on Oct 7 is likely as accurate as their claims about al-Shifa.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1737963766485078314
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Wow, then this Washington Post article really Fact Checks the Israeli version of those Tunnels Under The Hospitals!!

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mandrill said:
But here's the difference, Farfar.

When Hamas kills Israelis, the IDF goes in after them and kills Hamas.

When the IDF kills Hamas, the Hamas guy's brother phones up the Israeli defence minister - at least according to this unlikely story - and says cheeky things to him.
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Here's the difference, Goebbels.
When Israel targets and kills 10,000 children you think its not terrorism and back it.
When Hamas targets the people occupying their land you say its terrorism and they all have to die, so Israel bombs the shit out of Gaza, kills their kids, blocks all food and water and destroys as many hospitals as possible and you that's not terrorism.

Your definition of terrorism is based entirely as race and used entirely as a justification for supporting terrorism and genocide.

I say stop both sides, ceasefire.
Bring in the UN.
Investigate and charge the leaders on both sides.
End apartheid.

Stop the killing, stop the genocide.
 
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mandrill said:
No. Just because some asshole writes an Op Ed in the Guardian does not make it true. Sorry.
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“Israel is losing the war against Hamas – but Netanyahu and his government will never admit it”

Mandy….you are like a little Zionist wind up doll….willing to parrot anything your masters say.
 
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