Republicans solution to the southern border?

jalimon

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There is currently 500k people walking towards the US border. 500k. Mostly Venezualien, Haïtiens and Honduriens

their life must be so damn miserable if they really think they can have a better life in the US.
 

Valcazar

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It's a simple choice:

If building a border wall is racist then both Trump and Biden are racists.
If building a border wall is not racist then neither Trump or Biden are racist.

Pick one.
The question is...
Is this you being stupid because you think a silly false equivalence like this would fool people?
Or is this you being stupid because you think this silly false equivalence is true?
 
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There is currently 500k people walking towards the US border. 500k. Mostly Venezualien, Haïtiens and Honduriens

their life must be so damn miserable if they really think they can have a better life in the US.
Well, you can go all skoob and build some racist walls or you could think about root causes.
Supporting demographic reform or whatever it takes so people don't need to flee their homes.
Working to fix climate change that's also creating migrants everywhere.
 

Skoob

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You think all walls are built to keep out the scary brown hordes.
You think that people said "walls are racist" and therefore Biden is a hypocrite.
You think all walls are the same wall.

There isn't much point in trying to explain things to you when your fundamental understandings are so broken.
All walls are built to keep out anything or anyone you don't want to freely get in.
People said Trump was racist because he wanted to build a wall...Biden wanted to continue building that wall and crickets.
Yes it's the same wall because its a border wall. Same intention and same purpose.

You can tap dance around it all you want but I do believe you acknowledge the hypocrisy here and are either to embarrassed or too shocked to admit it.

Tell us who the border wall is trying to keep out. Can you provide that simple answer? Be specific or I'll keep asking you to be specific so why waste your time?

Clue: it's not doctors, lawyers, engineers and properly documented people.
 
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Skoob

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The question is...
Is this you being stupid because you think a silly false equivalence like this would fool people?
Or is this you being stupid because you think this silly false equivalence is true?
Can't pick one can you?
Are you that afraid to choke on your own hypocrisy?
It's cute how you go on the attack and start calling people names when you basically realized how badly you have been owned on this one.
 

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Well, you can go all skoob and build some racist walls or you could think about root causes.
Supporting demographic reform or whatever it takes so people don't need to flee their homes.
Working to fix climate change that's also creating migrants everywhere.
I prefer what Biden is doing and building a wall to secure the border.
 
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Valcazar

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People said Trump was racist because he wanted to build a wall...Biden wanted to continue building that wall and crickets.
Only that's not reality.
It's just an imaginary thing in your own head.


Tell us who the border wall is trying to keep out. Can you provide that simple answer? Be specific or I'll keep asking you to be specific so why waste your time?

Clue: it's not doctors, lawyers, engineers and properly documented people.
Of course it is.
You don't want someone going somewhere, you put a wall up.

That includes people who are doctors and lawyers.

There is also the slight difference of 20 miles of portable barriers that can be arranged when needed and 2000 miles of wall to keep the evil Mexican rapists out.

There is also a difference between a Schwinn and a Harley Davison, but I am sure to you "a bicycle is a bicycle".
 

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All walls are built to keep out anything or anyone you don't want to freely get in.
People said Trump was racist because he wanted to build a wall...Biden wanted to continue building that wall and crickets.
Yes it's the same wall because its a border wall. Same intention and same purpose.

You can tap dance around it all you want but I do believe you acknowledge the hypocrisy here and are either to embarrassed or too shocked to admit it.

Tell us who the border wall is trying to keep out. Can you provide that simple answer? Be specific or I'll keep asking you to be specific so why waste your time?

Clue: it's not doctors, lawyers, engineers and properly documented people.
Are you a doctor lawyer or engineer ?
 
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Skoob

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Only that's not reality.
It's just an imaginary thing in your own head.




Of course it is.
You don't want someone going somewhere, you put a wall up.

That includes people who are doctors and lawyers.

There is also the slight difference of 20 miles of portable barriers that can be arranged when needed and 2000 miles of wall to keep the evil Mexican rapists out.

There is also a difference between a Schwinn and a Harley Davison, but I am sure to you "a bicycle is a bicycle".
Just imaginary? How do you figure?
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-adop...cal-total-betrayal-his-values-opinion-1832473

Doctors and lawyers aren't the ones trying to cross illegally or trying to leave at all for that matter.
Biden steamrolled over several laws to get additional wall built.

You sound like someone flailing while losing an argument and is grasping at straws to justify the difference when there is no difference. Just give it up already.
 

Valcazar

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Just imaginary? How do you figure?
https://www.newsweek.com/biden-adop...cal-total-betrayal-his-values-opinion-1832473

Doctors and lawyers aren't the ones trying to cross illegally or trying to leave at all for that matter.
Biden steamrolled over several laws to get additional wall built.

You sound like someone flailing while losing an argument and is grasping at straws to justify the difference when there is no difference. Just give it up already.
That newsweek is as confused as you are isn't actually my problem, Skoob.
 

Skoob

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That newsweek is as confused as you are isn't actually my problem, Skoob.
Apparently your problem is accusing people of imagining things, and then when provided proof, you have a problem with the proof.

Could it be that you're just confused about your own hypocrisy and are imagining a different reality?
 
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Valcazar

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Apparently your problem is accusing people of imagining things, and then when provided proof, you have a problem with the proof.

Could it be that you're just confused about your own hypocrisy and are imagining a different reality?
No.
I am just able to see that two walls aren't the same.
I am also able to see a weak false equivalence when presented.

The funny thing is that I am actually against Biden's immigration policy and think in general his handling of the Southern border has been the weakest part of his presidency.
I just don't go for bullshit rhetoric like "Biden is building Trump's wall" and the idea that Trump was called racist because he wanted "a wall" and not the wall he actually demanded and the reasons he demanded it.
 
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Skoob

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No.
I am just able to see that two walls aren't the same.
I am also able to see a weak false equivalence when presented.

The funny thing is that I am actually against Biden's immigration policy and think in general his handling of the Southern border has been the weakest part of his presidency.
I just don't go for bullshit rhetoric like "Biden is building Trump's wall" and the idea that Trump was called racist because he wanted "a wall" and not the wall he actually demanded and the reasons he demanded it.
If you can't see that the walls are the same then that is the root of your problem. No false equivalence. Same wall, same intent. One was called out for what it is, one not called out for what it is.

Your confirmation bias is showing.
 

Valcazar

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If you can't see that the walls are the same then that is the root of your problem. No false equivalence. Same wall, same intent. One was called out for what it is, one not called out for what it is.

Your confirmation bias is showing.
Or yours is.

But at least this is fair.
It's a fundamentally different view of reality.

I'm kind of glad that this is actually a fundamental view of yours and not you cynically lying for political partisanship.
So that's good, I guess.
 

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There is currently 500k people walking towards the US border. 500k. Mostly Venezualien, Haïtiens and Honduriens

their life must be so damn miserable if they really think they can have a better life in the US.
So what's your point?
 

WyattEarp

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'their life must be so damn miserable if they really think they can have a better life in the US.'
Perhaps it's lost on you that they aren't continuing on to the Canadian border at some point. It would seem easy to cross over into Canada. Maybe they think there is more opportunities for them and their families longer-term in the U.S. than Canada.
 
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jalimon

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Perhaps it's lost on you that they aren't continuing on to the Canadian border at some point. It would seem easy to cross over into Canada. Maybe they think there is more opportunities for them and their families longer-term in the U.S. than Canada.
Not sure there is. We have way more social measures to accommodate them. But then again we already get way too many immigrants then we can handle.

All that said misery is easier under warm sun than crazy cold. so its a weather issue ;)
 

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Perhaps it's lost on you that they aren't continuing on to the Canadian border at some point. It would seem easy to cross over into Canada. Maybe they think there is more opportunities for them and their families longer-term in the U.S. than Canada.
Yup the land of the free but DON'T YOU DARE have an abortion even if the women's life is in danger or raped or and or and or and DON'T YOU DARE pay for sex or you will be locked up! Yup, the land of the free my ass! LOL I'll stay in Canada thank you.
 
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