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Frankfooter said:
Not true.

Netanyahu announced he would resume killing Palestinians after the time limit ended.
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And, as he'd already done by extending the time limit from 4-7 days he would continue to do so indefinitely as long as Hamas continued to release hostages.

Hamas stopped releasing hostages. Netanyahu kept his word.

Hamas knew this and chose to sacrifice more Gazan lives. You support Hama. You support more Gazans being killed. That's disgusting.
 
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shack said:
And, as he'd already done by extending the time limit from 4-7 days he would continue to do so indefinitely as long as Hamas continued to release hostages.

Hamas stopped releasing hostages. Netanyahu kept his word.

Hamas knew this and chose to sacrifice more Gazan lives. You support Hama. You support more Gazans being killed. That's disgusting.
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I support peace.
I support a ceasefire.
I support ending the occupation and apartheid.
I support equal rights for all regardless of race.
I support both sides being taken to court and tried for all war crimes committed.

this is you
 
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shack said:
When I have only ever said Hamas vermin. Keep lying.
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When have you said its wrong to kill Palestinian civilians?
When have you called out any similar speech by anyone?

Your intent is very clear.

basketcase said:
Only racist scum think self defence includes attacking civilians who were not engaged in acts of violence.
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shack said:
They spread disease. In this case the disease is hate. You clearly did not get vaccinated. Instead you got indoctrinated.
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Hate would be calling people, 'vermin', 'rabid dogs' or 'terrorists' in order to dehumanize them to justify genocide.

Leimonis said:
Everybody who has some knowledge about the parties involved understand that rabid dogs and civilian population need to be divided by a fence of some sort
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Not getting younger said:
Varmin that need to be exterminated. Period.
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1730608322863153213
 
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Frankfooter said:
Hate would be calling people, 'vermin', 'rabid dogs' or 'terrorists' in order to dehumanize them to justify genocide.





https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1730608322863153213
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I wonder has it occurred to you that you may be wrong about this?
for example what if a ceasefire would only serve to help terror regroup and attack again? What if “end of occupation” would only mean that hamas would run Palestine and Jews would have to exit Palestine or be killed? Is that a possibility in your world? Or maybe it would be okay with you? Or are you privy to a higher knowledge and you cannot be mistaken about it?
 
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Leimonis said:
I wonder has it occurred to you that you may be wrong about this?
for example what if a ceasefire would only serve to help terror regroup and attack again? What if “end of occupation” would only mean that hamas would run Palestine and Jews would have to exit Palestine or be killed? Is that a possibility in your world? Or maybe it would be okay with you? Or are you privy to a higher knowledge and you cannot be mistaken about it?
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Israel can't and won't kill all of Hamas anyways, and even if they did they'd just sow the grounds for the next resistance group.
You can't kill yourself to peace.

Why do you think killing more Palestinians will work this time when it hasn't worked once in 75 years?
Why not try deescalating and try to treat Palestinians as humans?

Turning Israel into the pariah state of genocide isn't going to make Jews safer anywhere.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Why do you think killing more Palestinians will work this time when it hasn't worked once in 75 years?
Why not try deescalating and try to treat Palestinians as humans?
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You haven’t answered my question. I’ll still answer yours.
Arguably killing Palestinians worked for 75 years because the israel still exists and it probably wouldn’t exist otherwise.

israel Is treating their Arab citizens as humans but it is not at all clear how can it possibly treat radicalized Gazans as humans. You think that Gazans would behave if allowed to mix freely with Israelis. I think they or at least their most radicalized people would continue killing Jews as they say they would.
Are you 100% convinced you are right and I am wrong?
 
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Butler1000 said:
Cripes you would think Hamas would surrender by now and save lives. Too stubborn yo realize they have lost the war. Too uncaring of their own people to do the right thing.
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They haven't lost. They'll let Israel take Gaza and then intifada the IDF with endless terror attacks. There are going to be 100's of suicide bombers. It'll get messier and messier.

That's the plan.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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@ question for Terb's Lefties?

1. How many Jews live within Gaza???
2. How many Palestinians, muslims, and/or Arabs live within Israel???
 
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Leimonis said:
You haven’t answered my question. I’ll still answer yours.
Arguably killing Palestinians worked for 75 years because the israel still exists and it probably wouldn’t exist otherwise.

israel Is treating their Arab citizens as humans but it is not at all clear how can it possibly treat radicalized Gazans as humans. You think that Gazans would behave if allowed to mix freely with Israelis. I think they or at least their most radicalized people would continue killing Jews as they say they would.
Are you 100% convinced you are right and I am wrong?
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The answer to your question is that what you are trying hasn't worked every time its been tried in Israel. Sure, there is a state there and you've wiped Palestine off the map, but there is continual strife and 'wars' on the people you occupy ever 2-3 years. This is the biggest one in half a century, that's all.

How and why do you think the Palestinians in Gaza became 'radicalized'? Was it after they voted for Hamas? Was it after Israel walled them and turned Gaza into a concentration camp? Was it after the 5 wars in the last 15 years? Why don't you think any of those have anything to do with radicalizing people?

You also just proved my point. 'Israeli Arabs' live peacefully with almost equal rights with Jews. So why not give Palestinians equal rights and see if they will also live peacefully instead of bombing the shit out of them and 'radicalizing' them?

These are people that just want a chance to live their lives without being constantly bombed.
 
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