You still need to investigate what hamas did? They kinda documented their attacks HD 4k....and you still said..."hamas isn't the problem" so what exactly was Oct 7?
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That's the way the rule of law works.
You investigate, lay charges, have a trial and sentence if found guilty.
I know, you think you just need to repeat 'Hamas' three times and then you kill all the 'human animals'.
Frankie, yes or no
If Hamas surrendered,
released all the hostages they grabbed on Oct. 7th only
do you not believe Israel would have absolutly no choice but to call a ceasefire and then the talks to a resolution for peace could commence?
They are about to lose another 7 miles of land. Maybe more. And more Gazans will leave. The fact is the West will back Israel no matter what. And the Arabs don't really give a shit. The Palestinians are pretty much universally regards as a detriment.
They burned every bridge and ally they have ever had. Sure in the short term its not good. But its quite clear that after 75 years peace is virtually impossible to achieve. Neither side wants it. So there will only be a winner.
I know where my money is.
I have to disagree.
First of all hamas don’t care about losing land if they even going to lose it. This is not about the land. It’s about pushing Jews in the sea. The only land they’d hate to lose is Qatar.
The Palestinians are only regarded as a detriment by those who happened to have had some experience with them.
Millions of woke idiots around the world regard them as oppressed underdog freedom fighters.
also, israel does want peace. It just doesn’t have anyone on the other side to negotiate it with.
Surrendering means the Leaders of Hamas living the life of luxury in Quatar give up and turn themselves in. Hamas is no longer running the government of Gaza. It is not rocket science it is common sense. Also, once this occurs you think the US would allow Israel to keep bombing Gaza? II know, you will disagree because its all about anti Israel gibberish.
Memo from mossad to bibi:
Sir we are ready to take out hamas in Qatar. Should we begin?
Bibi: no, hold it, that’s not helpful. Let me just kill more babies in gaza.
Unfortunately for Hamas they are losing. The leadership in Gaza is toast. Several years of infrastructure for rocket making and training are destroyed. Those residential blocks included the factories and housing for recruits. And the destruction south of the new line means years to even get back to a threat point.
There will be the usual rock throwing etc in the coming months. Complaints about land grabs deflected with security concern arguments. Egypt and Israel will limit aid to food and essentials for months. Israel will bulldoze the new area over years while moving up settlements North and West. At some point a mess of an election will be held in Gaza, some group will win, corruption will ensue, and we will be back to where we are now, minus the 7 miles.
And it will all happen again.
You are correct there is no one to negotiate with. You are wrong about a Israel wanting a peaceful redolution. They are now a right wing nation. With a huge majority of them young people. So they will control things for decades. And with the Palestinians haven proven themselves as impossible to treat with they are going to push them out. I dont have illusions about this. You shouldn't either.
Lol, sending Assassination squads into an Arab Nation is not going to create peace. Its will rally them to attack Israel.
You should change your handle to Dr. Spin. I also suggest you contact Hamas leadership and ask them if you can be the Director of Communications. The talent to spin a yarn you possess will be invaluable to Hamas.
You left out a small yet important part.
.....once Hamas breaks the agreement and stops returning hostages.
He was ready to carry on with the ceasefire and release Palestinians as long as more hostages were being returned to Israel. Hamas broke the terms of the ceasefire.
Hamas decided that it was time for more Gazans to die, and you support their actions. You support more Gazans dying. What kind of person are you?
Actually, the truth of the matter is that Israel and Hamas/Gaza were never married.
It is Hamas and Gaza that are in a relationship, and Hamas is beating the crap out of their partner.
Hamas are the wife beaters and you support them. You support the deaths of more Gazan deaths via Hamas tactics. It's an ugly look of yourself that you present to the TERB community.
No, I don't believe that would happen.
If Hamas surrendered Israel would take over all of Gaza, detain and execute anyone associated with Hamas, institute the buffer zone they are talking about or drive them into the Sinai. After that Israel would have no need to settle for peace, they would just fix the walls around the concentration camp and let them all suffer.
Do you think if Hamas surrendered they would end the blockade, rebuild Gaza and allow the people of Gaza to leave the Gaza strip?
That they would end the 17 year blockade and apartheid?
Israel would call that peace but it wouldn't stop them from continuing to take land in the West Bank and continuing the colonization.
There were 233 settler terrorist attacks before Oct, there have been 2x the number daily since then. If Hamas is eliminated the settler attacks would increase and the battle just moves to the West Bank.
The way this ends is Biden forces Netanyahu to stop. Netanyahu is taken out of power.
BDS forces Israel to end apartheid.
A lying misquote. I said that there was that, meaning they had food and water and gas for the last week until Hamas broke the terms of the ceasefie.
Another blatant lying accusation. When you are losing a debate, you have no shame in lying outright.
Another blatant lie.
One person commented that killing never brought peace. I stated a historical fact that there was at least one time where killing did bring peace and that was when the US nuked Japan. That was the end of my statement.
It's fun exposing your lies one after the other.
You admitted there is no food and water, that's genocide.
Then you tried to blame Hamas, as usual, for Israel's actions, using the wife beater's defence.
You repeatedly conflate Palestinians with Hamas and call Hamas 'vermin'.
Then you try to backstep and say you didn't mean the children, then call them 'vermin' again.
Never once have you said its war crime to kill children or that Israel should stop killing children.
Each time you try to blame Hamas every time Israel drops a bomb on children.
