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We don't care what happens in the UK. Just because the UK could possibly be worse doesn't mean Trudeau is good.

I'm starting to notice a pattern. Anything that goes wrong or mismanaged under Trudeau's watch is never his fault and he has no responsibility on how it plays out.

We have a guy in office who has record level spending, buy nothing is running right in this country. Fucking Amazing.
Its just ignorant to ignore global issues and claim they are the fault of locals.

The US has the same issues.
And if you compare Canada to the G7 we've been doing better than most.

More important is to try to figure out what the fix is. Though I'm sure that right wingers will just say more tax cuts to the rich and less money for schools and health care as their solution.
 
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I'd rather that than having an actual Nazi being celebrated.
Well....... make your feelings known to the former Speaker of the House who invited him!!
But the FreeDumb guy who walked in tandem with Pee Pee probably has even more Nazi views than this Ukrainian War Veteran who fought alongside the Nazis!!
 

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We don't care what happens in the UK. Just because the UK could possibly be worse doesn't mean Trudeau is good.

I'm starting to notice a pattern. Anything that goes wrong or mismanaged under Trudeau's watch is never his fault and he has no responsibility on how it plays out.

We have a guy in office who has record level spending, buy nothing is running right in this country. Fucking Amazing.
When Harper screwed up, we see a pattern with the conservatives on this Board making excuses for his record. Why do you not have a go at them?
What do you mean that "Nothing is right in this country", especially as we have the one of the lowest inflation as well as Debt to GDP ratios among the G7 Nations.
Of course what is occurring Globally is not taken into account except when it involved the Harper Government!!
You might as well flee to any Nation that you think is doing okay today!!
 

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Well....... make your feelings known to the former Speaker of the House who invited him!!
But the FreeDumb guy who walked in tandem with Pee Pee probably has even more Nazi views than this Ukrainian War Veteran who fought alongside the Nazis!!
If it's his fault why did Trudeau apologize?

You don't have any proof that guy is more of a nazi (Not even sure how you can be more nazi than a nazi).
 

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When Harper screwed up, we see a pattern with the conservatives on this Board making excuses for his record. Why do you not have a go at them?
What do you mean that "Nothing is right in this country", especially as we have the one of the lowest inflation as well as Debt to GDP ratios among the G7 Nations.
Of course what is occurring Globally is not taken into account except when it involved the Harper Government!!
You might as well flee to any Nation that you think is doing okay today!!
You're complaining about a guy that hasn't been in office for 8 years.

Nothing is running right is exactly that. Nothing. You tell me what's been done.

What exactly are we going to do with "Debt to GDP ratios"? Borrow and Spend more money? He can't even do that until 2025. You don't know what you are talking about.

You got nothing to show for in 8 years, so you look to point the finger.
 

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You're complaining about a guy that hasn't been in office for 8 years.

Nothing is running right is exactly that. Nothing. You tell me what's been done.

What exactly are we going to do with "Debt to GDP ratios"? Borrow and Spend more money? He can't even do that until 2025. You don't know what you are talking about.

You got nothing to show for in 8 years, so you look to point the finger.
Obviously, you are living in a crevice if you cannot comprehend the impact from the Covid-19 as well as the Supply Chains, Wars in Ukraine etc that has impacted the economies and wallets of the citizens. All the Governments have had to support their citizens in these trying times, that have been complicated by the Climate impacts on the crops and hence high food prices. Canada is NOT INSULATED from these global occurrences. Prior to the Covid-19 Pandemic, Canada's economy was on a high with the number of almost 400,000 new jobs created as well as the lower deficits, high exports, lower imports and still ahead of several G7 Nations in this respect:


Obviously, you guys will totally ignore the real facts!!
 

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If it's his fault why did Trudeau apologize?

You don't have any proof that guy is more of a nazi (Not even sure how you can be more nazi than a nazi).
Then why did The Speaker take the full responsibility as he is the one who invited this individual and then resign from his post?

You just cannot comprehend why Trudeau "apologized". Trudeau apologized Wednesday for Parliament’s recognition of a man who fought alongside the Nazis.

He did NOT INVITE this individual!!
 

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.JTs record on jobs, which is arguably better, if looked at in a vacuum.
reality is not held in a vacuum though

Fraser Institute News Release: Government sector accounts for more than 86% of new jobs in Canada since pandemic began

The study examines labour market statistics between February 2020 when the pandemic started and July 2022, the most recent available monthly information. It finds that jobs in the government sector have increased by 9.4 per cent (net) versus just 0.4 per cent in the private sector, including self-employment.


The government sector added 366,800 jobs (net) during this period while the private sector (including self-employment) added 56,100.
so Trudeaus record on jobs is a cruel slap in the taxpayers face rather than any positive accomplishment for Canada
He is a fool who's answer to every issue is to throw other peoples money at it

it is going to be so expensive to shrink the unsustainable size of govt this fool created

in reality he should get a "F" grade for job creation to go with his "F" grade for financial management

never give the public purse to a moron
 
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Then why did The Speaker take the full responsibility as he is the one who invited this individual and then resign from his post?

You just cannot comprehend why Trudeau "apologized". Trudeau apologized Wednesday for Parliament’s recognition of a man who fought alongside the Nazis.

He did NOT INVITE this individual!!
Because he's protecting Justin, like all his supporters. It's always someone else's fault.

It doesn't matter if he didn't invite him. It happened and he participated in it.
 

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Because he's protecting Justin, like all his supporters. It's always someone else's fault.

It doesn't matter if he didn't invite him. It happened and he participated in it.
You are hilarious!! You will blame Trudeau no doubt for everything under the sun!!

Once again it was the former Speaker who solely invited this Ukrainian war veteran. Why did the Conservatives including Pee Pee also participate in it then?
They should also bear the responsibility for it, according to your LOGIC!!
 

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Obviously, you are living in a crevice if you cannot comprehend the impact from the Covid-19 as well as the Supply Chains, Wars in Ukraine etc that has impacted the economies and wallets of the citizens. All the Governments have had to support their citizens in these trying times, that have been complicated by the Climate impacts on the crops and hence high food prices. Canada is NOT INSULATED from these global occurrences. Prior to the Covid-19 Pandemic, Canada's economy was on a high with the number of almost 400,000 new jobs created as well as the lower deficits, high exports, lower imports and still ahead of several G7 Nations in this respect:


Obviously, you guys will totally ignore the real facts!!
We had house price issues way before covid. He campaigned on stabilizing housing back in 2015. It never happened and we have the biggest housing issues among the G7.

He has brought in a record amount of immigrants into Canada with nowhere to put them. His phony housing project fund hasn't produced a single unit nor will it ever keep up with the demand. How will you blame this on covid?

Let's address some of you're dishonest claims:
When it comes to inflation and G7 nation, what you are not accounting for is location. 4 out of the 7 G7 nations are in Europe which is experiencing higher inflation due to war happening in their back yard. If you look at Canada/Japan/America they are all relative. It has nothing to do with Trudeau and has everything to do with not being in Europe. So in a sense, yeah Canada is INSULATED from some global occurrences.

Second, Trudeau's economy before the pandemic was all hot air. When Trudeau took office 2015, Canada was at the end of a small recession.
So it's easy math: Recovery Cycle + Gov. Spending + Increased Population = Growth (on paper).

But let's put all your BS talk to the side. What does that actually mean? Well lets look at. The first 3 years (and every year) of Trudeau's run in office he ran 3 large deficits to grow the economy. By how much did we grow? GDP annual growth from 2016-2018 was 1%, 3.04% and 2.78% (I'll even add in 2019 at 1.89%). This actually puts every in perspective. This guy Trudeau blew up Canada's budget to max out at 3% annual growth and his economy was in a decline before covid. That's why he needs to go. No, Canada was not on a high.

And that's why the economy is struggling right now. Justin's economic growth policies are not based around corporate investment, it's Gov. Spending + Immigration and stir.

So trust me, you're not ignoring the facts. You don't even know them.
 

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You are hilarious!! You will blame Trudeau no doubt for everything under the sun!!

Once again it was the former Speaker who solely invited this Ukrainian war veteran. Why did the Conservatives including Pee Pee also participate in it then?
They should also bear the responsibility for it, according to your LOGIC!!
To you he has no responsibility for anything.

Conservatives didn't clear him.
 

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Obviously, you are living in a crevice if you cannot comprehend the impact from the Covid-19 as well as the Supply Chains, Wars in Ukraine etc that has impacted the economies and wallets of the citizens. All the Governments have had to support their citizens in these trying times, that have been complicated by the Climate impacts on the crops and hence high food prices. Canada is NOT INSULATED from these global occurrences. Prior to the Covid-19 Pandemic, Canada's economy was on a high with the number of almost 400,000 new jobs created as well as the lower deficits, high exports, lower imports and still ahead of several G7 Nations in this respect:


Obviously, you guys will totally ignore the real facts!!
Beaver, see your track record. It’s not as though you have a firm grasp on economics or finances. And once more a little help.

If credit agencies, companies that are leaving for greener pastures (Capital Bleed), investors too ( those that buy Govt issuances be they bonds or T-Bills by the tens of billions). When I bought hundreds of millions worth every other week, or shorted hundreds of millions worth of US treasuries ( I ran a book that was short $6,000,000,000 USTs) every other week. On the world stage, my book? Not even a drop in the ocean. A gnat.

Dont give a rats ass about how we compare. Why should you?
 
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Beaver, see your track record. It’s not as though you have a firm grasp on economics or finances. And once more a little help.

If credit agencies, companies that are leaving for greener pastures (Capital Bleed), investors too ( those that buy Govt issuances be they bonds or T-Bills by the tens of billions). When I bought hundreds of millions worth every other week, or shorted hundreds of millions worth of US treasuries ( I ran a book that was short $6,000,000,000 USTs) every other week. On the world stage, my book? Not even a drop in the ocean. A gnat.

Dont give a rats ass about how we compare. Why should you?
You should write a comedy book about "Economics". Will be a comedy hit at the cinemas............Thanks for the chuckle!!

 
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You should write a comedy book about "Economics". Will be a comedy hit at the cinemas............Thanks for the chuckle!!

What’s your track record Beaver? Unlike Harper it is a disaster…Like Frank you can’t even pick up on the difference between cuts and not allocating and spending enough. Nor despite dozens of warnings about boomers over a couple decades.
/whoosh

The hard reality is, you aren’t not an economist. Yet you, and others carry on as though A) you are and B) you know better. see Drummond and yet
/whoosh

Especially when it comes to select ones, like Drummond, Mintz some others. Those that have been federal finance ministers, chief economist for the big banks etc.. but you know better.
/laugh

For that matter neither am I. Your level of understanding might best be described as layman, passable, average at best ( if that given some things), no different than JohnnyQ public…Mine is well beyond that. Difference is, I have years working experience in some areas, that very few people do ( relative to Bay st) ..never mind with them. And I pay attention to them, and I don’t listen to just one. And I know and have the wisdom to know that when a bunch are saying the “same things”…

You should write that book Beaver. Don’t leave it.
 
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We had house price issues way before covid. He campaigned on stabilizing housing back in 2015. It never happened and we have the biggest housing issues among the G7.

He has brought in a record amount of immigrants into Canada with nowhere to put them. His phony housing project fund hasn't produced a single unit nor will it ever keep up with the demand. How will you blame this on covid?

Let's address some of you're dishonest claims:
When it comes to inflation and G7 nation, what you are not accounting for is location. 4 out of the 7 G7 nations are in Europe which is experiencing higher inflation due to war happening in their back yard. If you look at Canada/Japan/America they are all relative. It has nothing to do with Trudeau and has everything to do with not being in Europe. So in a sense, yeah Canada is INSULATED from some global occurrences.

Second, Trudeau's economy before the pandemic was all hot air. When Trudeau took office 2015, Canada was at the end of a small recession.
So it's easy math: Recovery Cycle + Gov. Spending + Increased Population = Growth (on paper).

But let's put all your BS talk to the side. What does that actually mean? Well lets look at. The first 3 years (and every year) of Trudeau's run in office he ran 3 large deficits to grow the economy. By how much did we grow? GDP annual growth from 2016-2018 was 1%, 3.04% and 2.78% (I'll even add in 2019 at 1.89%). This actually puts every in perspective. This guy Trudeau blew up Canada's budget to max out at 3% annual growth and his economy was in a decline before covid. That's why he needs to go. No, Canada was not on a high.

And that's why the economy is struggling right now. Justin's economic growth policies are not based around corporate investment, it's Gov. Spending + Immigration and stir.

So trust me, you're not ignoring the facts. You don't even know them.
Canada was not fully out of the recession when Trudeau took over the economy. Look at the jobless numbers etc when Harper inherited a healthy economy that was way ahead of the other G7 Nations and see where he took us in comparison to the other G7 nations. he boasted about his performance, but our jobless rates were worse than several other G7 Nations, at 7% in 2015.
The GDP growth was in the middle of the pack at the end of his reign although it was first in 2008 and 2009, thanks again to the Liberal Paul Martin / Chretien Governments impressive record that they handed Harper.

spin-cycle-does-canada-s-economic-performance-really-top-the-g7-1.3178235

Now looking at your link once again Canada surpasses all the G7 Nations except by just 0.2% more than Japan in terms of inflation. We are seeing the impact of the food prices for all the G7 Nations that caused the inflation to be that high. Now let's look at the GDP growth rate between Canada and the rest of the G7 Nations.



Once again look at the so called Fiscally Responsible Conservative Govt of UK's record and see where it has tanked since the Pandemic kicked in!!
Also an "insulated" nation like Japan does not have a very good recovery numbers!!
 

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To you he has no responsibility for anything.

Conservatives didn't clear him.
Pee Pee will Balme Trudeau for everything under the sun. Once again The Speaker has the divine right to invite who he wants as a guest:

What makes all of this especially bad for Anthony Rota is the context and the gravity of the error for which he apologized on Monday. He didn't merely invite a Ukrainian-Canadian veteran of a Nazi-aligned military unit to Parliament to witness the remarks of President Volodymyr Zelenskyy. He also called on every parliamentarian in attendance to recognize and applaud that man.
So Rota's mistake was not merely hurtful and embarrassing. It was highly public — and it handed a propaganda victory to the Russian regime that invaded Ukraine.

Why can you not accept the real facts for once?
 

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Canada was not fully out of the recession when Trudeau took over the economy. Look at the jobless numbers etc when Harper inherited a healthy economy that was way ahead of the other G7 Nations and see where he took us in comparison to the other G7 nations. he boasted about his performance, but our jobless rates were worse than several other G7 Nations, at 7% in 2015.
The GDP growth was in the middle of the pack at the end of his reign although it was first in 2008 and 2009, thanks again to the Liberal Paul Martin / Chretien Governments impressive record that they handed Harper.

spin-cycle-does-canada-s-economic-performance-really-top-the-g7-1.3178235

Now looking at your link once again Canada surpasses all the G7 Nations except by just 0.2% more than Japan in terms of inflation. We are seeing the impact of the food prices for all the G7 Nations that caused the inflation to be that high. Now let's look at the GDP growth rate between Canada and the rest of the G7 Nations.



Once again look at the so called Fiscally Responsible Conservative Govt of UK's record and see where it has tanked since the Pandemic kicked in!!
Also an "insulated" nation like Japan does not have a very good recovery numbers!!
Leave it to Beaver.
Do they ( and others) give a rats ass Beaver. Here’s a clue.

Or two
 

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Leave it to Beaver.
Do they ( and others) give a rats ass Beaver. Here’s a clue.

Or two
Despite the gloomy prediction from economists about a recession due to the high interest rates, the economy is still avoiding a recession.
But what you and the rest of the right wingers are deliberately ignoring is this fact that has impacted the Canadian economy severely in the past few years:

Canada's economy shrank by 0.3% in third quarter, StatsCan says
Upward revision of numbers for previous quarter now show growth

Derek Holt, an economist with Scotiabank, says the numbers aren't as bleak as the headline contraction would suggest, and much of the weakness stems from short-term factors.

"Half the country was literally on fire over the summer and those wildfires disrupted a broad cross-section of economic activity from shut mines and petrochemical facilities to agriculture, forestry and tourism under the warm glow of orange skies," he said.

Ultimately, he doesn't see any evidence that a recession is underway.

"The economy is not in recession as some folks across [Bay] Street have been claiming," he said. "The recessionistas have some explaining to do and the Bank of Canada won't see enough in here to guide easing any time soon."

Maybe Trudeau started all these fires!! :rolleyes:
 
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