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Frankfooter

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Well, certainly every time HAMAS kills someone and parades the mutilated body through the streets, they create more militants.

But then, the fact that HAMAS has a genocidal policy towards Israel and controls every aspect of life in Gaza creates large numbers of militants in any event.

Are there any studies done of how many Gazans get military training from HAMAS?
You're sounding more and more like shack and conil, mandrill.
1) You seem ok with the actual genocide of Palestinians based on your stereotyped beliefs about Palestinians (who you refer to repeatedly as HAMAS).
2) Why do you not think killing people's parents could turn the children into future militants?
3) Why do you excuse similar rampant racism and hate from zionists?



You used to be a lawyer.
Why won't you stand by the law being applied equally and fully to both sides?

 
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Frankfooter

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Yup. Smoked out those baby-kidnapper/ rapist/ torture-killers pretty good.

Bet the IDF grunts just had to stroll over those ruins, put the odd round into the head of the occasional HAMAS survivor and.... Job Done!

You got to love Tac Air!
You are supporting genocide.
Biden's support of Netanyahu, who 80% of Israelis say should resign, will put trump back in power.

Genocide.
 

Robert Mugabe

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Sure it was dismissed by upper management...ceasefire was in place and Hamas broke it...and now we are here...
Not to worry about the full scale training camp a mile away where they were practicing massacre in full dress rehearsal for a couple of years. Kind of like alarmists getting upset in Russia in 1941 when the Germans brought half their army up to the Soviet border just before they attacked. Couldn't get any interest from Stalin either. "we have a non aggression treaty"
 

Frankfooter

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Lol. You and your friends have been touting a one state solution for years. It will NEVER happen. And do you will continue selling a fantasy instead of building a country. Sad
It already happened.
There is no state of Palestine, Israel wiped it off the map.

 
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Frankfooter

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I actually think it will be the opposite. I think it will inevitably happen in an unintended way as it is the natural conclusion of this colonial project called Zionism. Israel will keep taking land, and at some point will end up with a situation where future generations will eventually just incorporate everyone into one state. It wont happen in our lifetimes, but in my opinion it will eventually happen. Like it happened in the US and Canada.

America was formed in 1776. The Indians were given citizenship in 1924, 150 years later. The same happened in Canada in 1947 I think? However the difference will be that Israel will cease to be a Jewish state and instead be a secular democratic country. That is what will happen eventually. Its inevitable.
It may take a few years, but it will happen sooner than you think.
Biden and Trudeau are the last of the western leaders backing Israel and backing the genocide will cost them both the next elections.
After this it will become much more obvious how toxic backing zionism has become.

Then sanctions will hit harder until apartheid is ended as it was in South Africa.

 
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toguy5252

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I actually think it will be the opposite. I think it will inevitably happen in an unintended way as it is the natural conclusion of this colonial project called Zionism. Israel will keep taking land, and at some point will end up with a situation where future generations will eventually just incorporate everyone into one state. It wont happen in our lifetimes, but in my opinion it will eventually happen. Like it happened in the US and Canada.

America was formed in 1776. The Indians were given citizenship in 1924, 150 years later. The same happened in Canada in 1947 I think? However the difference will be that Israel will cease to be a Jewish state and instead be a secular democratic country. That is what will happen eventually. Its inevitable.
You and your fellow travellers like gryphon the pathetic clown are the true enemies of the legitimate hopes an aspirations of the Palestinian people. There will never be a one state solution and the sooner you and others accept this and repudiate Hamas the sooner the Palestinians will achieve a sovereign state and build a country.
 
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Butler1000

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I can always tell when desperation is setting in. The Twitter feeds of Franki and company explode hoping to turn the tide.
 

Leimonis

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You're sounding more and more like shack and conil, mandrill.
1) You seem ok with the actual genocide of Palestinians based on your stereotyped beliefs about Palestinians (who you refer to repeatedly as HAMAS).
I wonder if during WW2 there was much complaining that Germans were referred to as nazis.
 

Frankfooter

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I doubt Israel will get sanctioned the way South Africa was, because Israel has a lot of influence in politics, industry and media in the US. And Canada always falls in line with the US. I also think change has to come from within Israel. Israeli politicians and public opinion have to come to a place, where they think, "What is the point?". And that will happen when subsequent generations are far removed from things like the holocaust and no longer strongly identify with it. Today Israel is rabidly racist and nationalistic. That transition takes decades, so I think it will happen somewhere around the turn of the century.
Its already happening.
If Biden loses to rump because of supporting Israel then everything changes there.
Its already looking very toxic.



 
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