The US never ratified the treaty on land mines did they? I shudder to think if Trump gets back in...
Republicans solution to the southern border?
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ummmm no...what the fucking joke is, is that even before construction on a wall that Trump proposed started, they called him a racist and xenophobe for proposing it, and now that Biden is doing it, it's apparently ok? Not racist. Not xenophobic. Same wall. Same intention.
That's the point you keep conveniently overlooking. I thought hypocrisy was your strong point?
No...that's your twisted view of what is actually being said here.
Build all the walls, fences, barriers you like. Just don't pick and choose when one part of it is racist and xenophobic, while the other part is not.
Ask yourself...who was Trump trying to keep out vs who is Biden trying to keep out?
Deciding foolishly to step into this a wee bit.
Is it at all possible both/all are “right”. Or that there are Dems ( in Washington and the electorate) that are highly hypocritical, and do as we say, not as we do types? That there are “Reps” who likewise……..
Nah, not at all.
Take away for me Whatever is done, or isn’t. Don’t cry about any consequences. Like Canada is presently crying about the cost, so too are many US cities.
As I understand the funding process Biden and homeland security could have built any ole “wall”, one made of paper, anywhere, on any stretch of border………..including ours.
Or litterally right behind Trumps “wall”. Seems like a shit ton of spin doctoring.
A picture says 1,000 words
Is it at all possible both/all are “right”. Or that there are Dems ( in Washington and the electorate) that are highly hypocritical, and do as we say, not as we do types? That there are “Reps” who likewise……..
Nah, not at all.
Take away for me Whatever is done, or isn’t. Don’t cry about any consequences. Like Canada is presently crying about the cost, so too are many US cities.
As I understand the funding process Biden and homeland security could have built any ole “wall”, one made of paper, anywhere, on any stretch of border………..including ours.
Or litterally right behind Trumps “wall”. Seems like a shit ton of spin doctoring.
A picture says 1,000 words
Construction on what the federal government says is a levee improvement project near Bentsen-Rio Grande Valley State Park in Mission on Jan. 12, 2022.
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Biden’s latest border moves spur criticism that he’s continuing wall construction
The administration says it’s filling in wall gaps for agent safety and flood control, and documents suggest an environmental assessment for 86 miles of wall in South Texas is a stalling tactic.www.texastribune.org
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That accepts the frame that these 20 miles he was obligated to build is Biden building the wall Trump failed at.
Which is wrong.
Yes, Trump's wall was racist and people called it out as such.
That isn't what I asked you.
I asked if you thought people called it racist because "building any border control was racist" ?
It seems you do.This is, of course, silly.
But then you keep saying that the 20 miles of portable barrier Biden is building is the same as Trump's 2000 miles of permanent wall, which is also silly.
You seem to have trouble discriminating between different things.
Ok, so you really are deluded that people thought the concept of a wall was racist.
As if any wall ever anywhere on the border was what people objected to.
And just look how much this says about you right here in the framing.
No wonder you are so confused.
Let us know when the next 20 miles gets built. Then, you'll only be 1,960 mi from your goal.
You know, there's always been a wall - or walls - in and around population centres. Trump's flourish is that he wanted to build it across the Arizona desert for 100's of miles of nothing and across the Rockies. Places where no migrants ever go.
That's because Trump has the IQ of an obese ferret with spraypainted peach fur.
Absolutely.
It is an obvious truth.
That's a pretty bold and atypical stance.
Nope. The FY2019 appropriations specified “the construction of primary pedestrian fencing, including levee pedestrian fencing, in the Rio Grande Valley”.
It had to be there.
It’s basic life wisdom that applies to people in their personal lives, their professional lives and politics. Anywhere and everywhere. Especially in this day and age when we are enlightened does it not?
Last paragraph. thanks
See the image I included
I get it...you are caught tripping over your own hypocrisy and you don't want to go down without a fight so you try to obscure things and hope attention will be drawn away from you. Kudos to you.
Now back to reality...here's a gem...
This Isn't a Border Wall: It's a Monument to White Supremacy
Like Confederate monuments, President Trump’s vision of a massive wall along the Mexican border is about propaganda and racial oppression, not national security.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-border-wall-is-a-monument-to-white-supremacy
...and another gem...
When he was running to unseat Donald Trump in 2020, Joe Biden promised there would be “not another foot” built of the border wall, a divisive manifestation of Trump's four-year crackdown on migration into the country.
Now Biden is adding to Trump’s wall.
https://time.com/6320907/border-wall-biden-migrant-surge/
Skooby, what about Trump's rhetoric about "Mexico pays for the wall" and "Mexico sends its rapists and criminals"? That's pretty racist.
And the notion that you build a fucking wall across peaks and gorges in the Rockies a thousand miles from anywhere is just dummery. So I vote for Trump the Big, Fat, Orange Racist on this one.
Maybe they should paint the wall orange and put peach colour straw on top and call it "The Stupid Wall"???
I think there are vast numbers of philosophers and ethicists who would say that having no regard for the consequences of your actions is not a good position to take.
Yes.
That article is from 2022.
You will notice that at the time, they were still pressuring Biden to build 86 more miles of Border wall and suing him for not complying.
He seems to have managed to get it down to 20.
The levee repair that can double as a wall is absolutely an issue, and I haven't seen follow up on whether or not that is included in the 20 miles people have been discussing or whether it is in addition to that.
Exactly.
Thanks for proving my point.
It wasn't about the fact of building walls or other physical barriers.
It was specifically about Trump's vision of a massive wall along the border for the reasons he said.
No one was saying any building of any piece of wall ever was racist.
It was about Trump's wall in specific.
Which is why the whole "Biden is building Trump's wall but now it isn't racist" is such a dumb argument.
Only he isn't.
That's a mainstream headline designed to bait you into clicking and to get Biden supporters enraged.
You need to read more than headlines, Skoob.
There is absolutely more wall being built, and Biden is getting flack for that compared to his promise, because he failed to get the 2019 appropriations shut down.
But the framing "Biden is now building Trump's wall" is very specifically designed to sucker you.
One thing's become crystal clear though. It's no longer Trump's wall, since nobody expects Mexico to pay for it...
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Same wall...same intentions. Biden just has a way to make you feel good about it.
Don't you feel dirty & cheap now?
You think they're trying to keep doctors & lawyers out?
Tell us who you think they are trying to keep out.
ps you're being played by the Left...snap out of it
Was Trump's wall going to have a big sign on it that said "this is a racist wall" and Biden's wall section will have a separate sign on it that says "non-racist wall" ?
Same wall. Same intentions. One guy calls it like it is...another tries to fool you into thinking it's for something else.
Who's the sucker?
No.
But unless you think the concept of "wall" is racist, you wouldn't make such an absurd comparison.
Oh.
You do think the concept of "wall" is racist.
Fucking weird.
I'm not sure how many ways I need to explain this...
I don't think a wall is racist. I don't think Trump building a wall is racist.
Trump's critics (ie Democrats) said it was racist and xenophobic.
Trump critics didn't say it was racist/xenophobic for Biden to build a wall.
I'm not sure how else I can explain the hypocrisy to you.
