Israel at war

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Cleric says: Muslims can have neither Christian or Jewish friends.

Cleric at Sydney Islamic centre broadcasts sermon on teachings about 'killing Jews' and supports fellow preacher who called for a jihad

Police are investigating a radical Islamic figure who cited scripture about 'killing Jews' and said Muslims can have neither Christian or Jewish friends.

Abu Ousayd, who the Al Madina Dawah Centre in western Sydney said was a 'Ustadh' (teacher), also defended a visiting speaker who appeared to call for jihad (holy struggle or war) saying there was 'nothing to condemn'.

In his new lecture at the Bankstown centre Mr Ousayd employed traditional anti-Semetic stereotypes to label Jews 'a very mischievous people' who use their economic and media power to 'oppress the weak' and start wars for their own gain.

Citing examples drawn from Islamic texts and the Bible, he accused Jews of 'scheming' to pit Muslim against Muslim.

'Peace is bad for the Jew (they say) 'there is no business for us',' he said.

'There goes our media, there goes our Hollywood blockbuster films.

'They need the fighting and the infighting of the Muslims to continue in order to thrive in order to grow.'

He said there was no difference between Jews who did not support Israel and 'Zionists' who do.

'Even these ultra-orthodox Jews that you see today that are against Israel and hate the Zionists... when the Messiah comes they are still going to fight Muslims,' he said.

'Don't be fooled these people are still your friends.

'Towards the end of times, when the Muslims will be fighting the Jews, the trees will speak, the stones will speak and they will say 'oh Muslim, oh believer, there is a Yahud (Jew) behind me, come and kill him'.'

He said Jews were always claiming 'Muslims are making things up' and 'arrogantly' think they are 'better, they are the best'.

 
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Do you have any suggestions other than genocide and ethnic cleansing?
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Considering your solution is Hamas ethnically cleansing Jews who you think are all illegitimate...

How about a negotiated peace by groups that reject terrorism? Oh that's right, you hate the idea of a negotiated peace because a) it means Jews get to remain, and b) You can't make Palestinians follow your will.
 
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Unsurprisingly, hate crimes on both sides are up.
The world needs a ceasefire to stop this madness.



Still sticking with the Trumpian "both sides" instead of overtly criticizing antisemitim?
 

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Cleric says: Muslims can have neither Christian or Jewish friends.

Cleric at Sydney Islamic centre broadcasts sermon on teachings about 'killing Jews' and supports fellow preacher who called for a jihad

Police are investigating a radical Islamic figure who cited scripture about 'killing Jews' and said Muslims can have neither Christian or Jewish friends.

Abu Ousayd, who the Al Madina Dawah Centre in western Sydney said was a 'Ustadh' (teacher), also defended a visiting speaker who appeared to call for jihad (holy struggle or war) saying there was 'nothing to condemn'.

In his new lecture at the Bankstown centre Mr Ousayd employed traditional anti-Semetic stereotypes to label Jews 'a very mischievous people' who use their economic and media power to 'oppress the weak' and start wars for their own gain.

Citing examples drawn from Islamic texts and the Bible, he accused Jews of 'scheming' to pit Muslim against Muslim.

'Peace is bad for the Jew (they say) 'there is no business for us',' he said.

'There goes our media, there goes our Hollywood blockbuster films.

'They need the fighting and the infighting of the Muslims to continue in order to thrive in order to grow.'

He said there was no difference between Jews who did not support Israel and 'Zionists' who do.

'Even these ultra-orthodox Jews that you see today that are against Israel and hate the Zionists... when the Messiah comes they are still going to fight Muslims,' he said.

'Don't be fooled these people are still your friends.

'Towards the end of times, when the Muslims will be fighting the Jews, the trees will speak, the stones will speak and they will say 'oh Muslim, oh believer, there is a Yahud (Jew) behind me, come and kill him'.'

He said Jews were always claiming 'Muslims are making things up' and 'arrogantly' think they are 'better, they are the best'.

 

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People generally don't like racist, violent, malicious assholes who steal land and brutalize defenseless people. That doesn't make them Jew haters.
Are you deliberately playing dumb or are you finding it difficult to follow along?

I am saying that not everybody who attends a pro-Palestinian rally have the same motivation. Some who attend DO believe in the Palestinian cause as their primary motivation for attending. That does not make them anti-Semitic. Some attend simply because they hate Jews and that is their primary motivation. The Palestinian cause is insignificant to them. Those people are anti-Semitic.

Actually, the concept is fairly simple to understand and I explained it very clearly twice already. As such I believe you are deliberately playing dumb.
 

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Are you deliberately playing dumb or are you finding it difficult to follow along?

I am saying that not everybody who attends a pro-Palestinian rally have the same motivation. Some who attend DO believe in the Palestinian cause as their primary motivation for attending. That does not make them anti-Semitic. Some attend simply because they hate Jews and that is their primary motivation. The Palestinian cause is insignificant to them. Those people are anti-Semitic.

Actually, the concept is fairly simple to understand and I explained it very clearly twice already. As such I believe you are deliberately playing dumb.
And why would you attend a protest?
The plague spreading vermin need to be eradicated and the whole civilized world know it.
 

shack

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Well they are. I am yet to hear you call out Israel's war crimes.
I said that they very well may be war crimes.

However Hamas has put Israel in a difficult position where either they turn a blind eye and allow Hamas to continue slaughtering their citizens (which no country in the world would allow) or eliminate Hamas with the understanding civilians would be collateral damage. Israel has a difficult choice.

Hamas choice is to protect their citizens or intentionally putting them in harm's way,

If each is committing war crimes, one side could easily choose not to the other side has no EASY choice. One is easier to condemn that the other.
 

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I said that they very well may be war crimes.

However Hamas has put Israel in a difficult position where either they turn a blind eye and allow Hamas to continue slaughtering their citizens (which no country in the world would allow) or eliminate Hamas with the understanding civilians would be collateral damage. Israel has a difficult choice.

Hamas choice is to protect their citizens or intentionally putting them in harm's way,

If each is committing war crimes, one side could easily choose not to the other side has no EASY choice. One is easier to condemn that the other.
Or you just end the frigging occupation and apartheid and don't commit war crimes that turn your country and movement into a pariah.

 
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They live in a concentration camp with one of the highest density areas on the planet.
There is nowhere for them to go.
Then why did Hamas not think of this before their terrorist attack of Oct. 7. They, and you, knew that Israel would respond.

Are all of you stupid to not foresee this, or is the opportunity to kill more Israelis make you salivate too much?
 
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