Will Israelis or Palestinians Win the PR War?

nottyboi

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Step one was the stripping of right of return. Second differnt claims of citizensship from Ex Israelis along racial lines. Third, they say it all the time. Their plan for greater Israel, their plan to demolish al aqsa and build a temple in its place. Its all downplayed in the media, but the nut jobs in charge now are not shy about it. There is no sugar coating about it. Stripping people of right or return, seizing their property, locking them out and hoping they die all these are genocidal acts. No other way to discribe them.
 
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shack

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So you'll go final solution on all the civilians because you think Hamas is hiding behind them?
Well. That theory is bandied about. But removing Hamas from the equation is probably not going to be so easy now. Kind of like separating the yolk from the white of an egg after you have just mixed it up with an egg beater. Kind of a tangle at this point. The recommended way would be to kind of keep some separation between the populace and Hamas so you could see the wood from the trees to use another analogy.
What if they can separate the wheat from the chaff?
 

richaceg

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How is it doable? How is Phillipines and Palestine the same? Israel controls, land, air and sea. Nothing can go in. Israel does not allow building materials like cement to go in. So how will they build anything? Not possible. Israel's goal is to ultimately pressure those people so much that they leave and Israel gets to take over the land. That is their end goal. But the Palestinians won't leave. Which is why this conflict is never ending.
Israel doesn't control their borders with Gaza....palestinians have brought goods through Egypt....they have brought in building materials to build tunnels but they can't bring in materials for other stuff? Hamas controls Gaza. If Israel's end goal is to get rid of palestinians...why move out of Gaza and left it to Hamas?
 

Frankfooter

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Israel doesn't control their borders with Gaza....palestinians have brought goods through Egypt....they have brought in building materials to build tunnels but they can't bring in materials for other stuff? Hamas controls Gaza. If Israel's end goal is to get rid of palestinians...why move out of Gaza and left it to Hamas?
Nice try.


 

Frankfooter

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Is Hamas a terrorist org or not....
is the whole State of Israel terrorists?
Why are Hamas still holding civilians hostages?
Same standards for both, rich.
If you target civilians its a war crime, you can call it ''terrorism', but its a war crime.
Has all of Hamas or all of Israel targeted civilians? Of course not.
You investigate and charge those who do and those who order other to do so.

Do you think targeting and killing journalists is ok?

 

richaceg

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Has all of Hamas or all of Israel targeted civilians? Of course not.
You investigate and charge those who do and those who order other to do so.

Do you think targeting and killing journalists is ok?

Do you still need to investigate what Hamas did? Sure you can say IDF's actions need investigating...but the actions in Oct 7 is beyond investigations now franky...You can vilify Israel you want...that's up to you...Hamas is a terrorist org...stop dancing around that fact...you know it's true...
 

Frankfooter

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Do you still need to investigate what Hamas did? Sure you can say IDF's actions need investigating...but the actions in Oct 7 is beyond investigations now franky...You can vilify Israel you want...that's up to you...Hamas is a terrorist org...stop dancing around that fact...you know it's true...
If you think Hamas are terrorists for killing civilians then the Israeli government are terrorists too.
 

Dutch Oven

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That is a war crime. And there will be more terrorism. And more rubble. Doing the same things over and over again, without a different result is insanity. Root causes need to be addressed. And the causes are on both sides.
Doing things in half measures is often no better than not doing them at all. You don't clear 1/2 a clog in your sink.You don't paint half a room.

Hamas needs to be wiped out entirely. That will require more rubble than there has been in the past.

And no, that is not a war crime. It is a war. Hamas doesn't want the damage? Simple solution - surrender unconditionally.
 

richaceg

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Are you arguing that Iran would be allowed to ship missiles directly through the Egypt border because Israel doesn't have any control?

Sanctions are starting.
keep dancing around the fact...we're talking about building materials franky boy....shipping missiles as a thought only shows what every terrorists think....instead of bringing in materials to build stuff....let's bring in missiles instead....LOL.
 

Frankfooter

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So you don't think Hamas are terrorists?
Not all Hamas are terrorists and not all Israelis are terrorists.
Do you think all Palestinians are terrorists?
All of Hamas?

How do you reach that decision?

Is this terrorism?

Is this terrorism?

Is this terrorism?


Is this terrorism?
 

Frankfooter

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keep dancing around the fact...we're talking about building materials franky boy....shipping missiles as a thought only shows what every terrorists think....instead of bringing in materials to build stuff....let's bring in missiles instead....LOL.
So you admit Israel controls what is allowed in at the Egyptian border.
Thanks.
 
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