Israel at war
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Its not trolling. You are trying to claim the civilian casualties in Japan were justified because of proximity to miitary targets, yet claim Palestinian casualties in proximity to Hamas military targets are not.
Its that simple.
And btw urban warfare against an entrenched and prepared opponent is the worst bloodiest kind there is. Special forces are not the answer. They have to go building to building, clear, check for IEDs and tunnels, continue. With no Iron dome for rockets Hamas will use. And Hamas will use innocents as shields and bait. This is going to a long bloody battle that will result in 10 of thousands of casualties on both sides.
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Yes, misrepresentating arguments is simple.
One of us is a military veteran qualified to speak on that subject, the other is a troll speaking out of his ass.
Why do they have to go building to building checking if Israel knows where the targets are? The only reason they'd have to go building to building is if Israel doesn't know where the targets are, in which case you've lost the argument that they're not just bombing civilians hoping to hit Hamas but rather are bombing military targets.
Why don't they have Iron Dome?
But it would cost far fewer lives if they didn't indiscriminately bomb civilians.
Netanyahu is a terrorist.
What do you think you should now be called?
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I don't believe you are a military person.
The above assessment pretty much proves it. Every military expert I've seen discussing this is saying what I'm saying above. They have a Marine General in Israel advising them now. Israel is indeed moving in with heavy vehicles and going building to building.
Cripes, did you ever stop to think that the enemy built all those tunnels so they can move and ambush? With entrances in residential homes, shops and schools? There literally is no safe zone, no place that can go unchecked.
Hamas has designed a nightmare scenario with 300 miles of tunnels and fanatic fighters ready to die. All fully stocked with arms, and supplies for months. Trained to know where and how to inflict maximum casualties if they can before dying. Their goal here isn't peace, or negotiations. Its to kill as many Jews as many military personal as possible, while filming it all and editing it for propaganda.
Thats the reality of what is happening.
This is going to upset toguy…..he gloats about ethnic cleansing
I haven't seen this kind of racial hatred towards Muslims since Bush and the global war on terror.
It was stupid and wrong then and its stupid and wrong now.
This war is clearly an attack on the Palestinian people in Gaza and the West Bank.
No wonder the global protests are as big as they were then.
What the palestinians should've done after the OCt 7 attack is start the exodus to South of Gaza not celebrating on the streets knowing the history between Israel & Hamas....the storm is coming....the war crimes were committed on Oct 7...not after...If UN no longer can condemn that action they no longer have a say what occurs after that....
On what do you base your statement that sny of the bombing by is really is purely punitive.
The trained seals will pretend they didn’t see this
As far as I recall one of the main factors considered in case of Hiroshima and nagasaki was that the ground was flat there which would help the wave of destruction to go further
Because she is a card carrying member of a group in Washington who want to see Washington dominant in the region. With docile governments to extract oil and resources for American interests. That has been the real purpose of foreign policy in the USA since WW2. The Shiite sect that runs Iran is the main opposition to this. Its a long term strategy.
HIlary is a done deal. There's no coming back from that defeat...IMO the best the democrats to do is groom a new blood....the Middle East no longer looking at the US as the Big Guy...it's China now....Israel will continue the ties with US and that will keep going...The Palestinian problem isn't just an Israel problem...there's a reason why Egypt, Jordan and Syria are keeping hush hush...they will not take on Israel conflict again....that's not economically viable...there's no progress in that and we all witness it...They would rather finance palestinians to do the proxy warfare and sit on the sidelines....now probably tapping their shoulders for doing just that...They all learn their lesson...palestinians are the easiest to manipulate by the extremists (this is still a mystery to me why)...but watching this video kinda explains some of my questions...most kids were farmed at an early age to hate on jews...
Shani Louk was decapitated
www.dailymail.co.uk
Shani Louk's father says abducted festivalgoer 'was killed on spot'
Hamas terrorists beheaded Shani Louk after the gunmen kidnapped the German tattoo artist from the Nova electronic festival and paraded her on the back of a truck, it has emerged.
I don't care. I'm still going to trust my experience over yours whether you believe I have it or not.
Having an advisor and doing what the advisor suggests are 2 different things.
"We have asked several officials with relevant experience simply to help Israeli officials think through the difficult questions ahead and explore their options. The IDF will, as always, make its own decisions," a Pentagon spokesperson told Axios.
I've yet to say anyone suggest that General Glynn had advised them to engage in an unrestricted air campaign carpet bombing schools and hospitals. In fact, I suggested special forces and you've claimed that's silly. General Flynn's highest ranking command was when he was in charge of MARSOC, which is the USMC Special Forces. His other recent experience is in training and education. Do you think he's advising Israel on how to teach, or do you think it's more likely he's there offering advice on special forces? Hmm?
Especially since they said "ahead". As in "not what they're currently doing".
If only there was a group of soldiers within the forces that's specially trained to deal with those scenarios. They be a pretty specialized force. I wonder what we would call a force that's got special training like that... I suspect it would have the words "special" and "forces" somewhere in the title....
PS. You never explained why you think they don't have Iron Dome. Care to do that?
Yes. I agree (except maybe for the "supplies for months" and "trained" part). Doesn't change anything I said.
As I've repeated many times, Hamas is a terrorist organization and its members should be hunted down and executed. You don't have to keep bringing up how evil Hamas is in response to me as if that's news and I'm denying it; I've acknowledged that. I'm suggesting killing someone's family and destroying someone's home because you think that will convince them to like you and hate your enemy is not going to have that desired effect, in direct response to posts that have said it would.
Now you can keep trying to divert it you want to, but that's the point I've been trying to make. Can you explain how killing someone's family and destroying their house is going to make them love you and hate your enemy? Can you give an example of where that strategy has ever worked?
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