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Israel at war

DinkleMouse

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And Hamas are doing the exact same thing
No they aren't. What Hamas is doing is worse because Hamas has no interest in anything other than killing civilians. They aren't "hoping" to hit anything else.

I know you think that was some clever comment because despite my repeated condemnations of Hamas you seem to think I support them since I'm speaking out against the deliberate targeting of civilians by Israel. But it wasn't because I have and will continue to repeatedly condemn Hamas for the heinous terrorist organization it is.
 

Not getting younger

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I laughed because of the casual insensitivity, lack of thought and self-awareness in saying "Israel can help pick up the pieces". You don't even know what that means. It is just words to you.
Ok “my bad”. And that too might be a little naive. But

Assuming. They launch their ground offensive and deal with as much of Hamas as they can. Yes, someone will fill the void to one degree or another. At some point Hamas might come back. If they are able..

You think many will be tried for war crimes? And assuming some few do. Gaza will still be rubble.

If pressure from the West can be applied to negotiate ( without success). Why can’t pressure be applied to rebuild?

So who is not reading ( laugh) and who is not thinking? You. And who is not a realist. You again.
 

Butler1000

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No, you don't get it.

IF you push them into violence, by attacking them, then yes.

So the best thing to do is to stop further violence, or atleast as soon as possible, and not give them a reason to indulge in violence.

Total and unconditional victory, isn't remotely possible where the movement is grassroots, and not just a faction.
Then you are stating there aren't innocent civilians here.
 

Butler1000

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I do not approve of Hamas' tactics and right from my first post I've said Hamas is a terrorist organization and it's members should be hunted down and executed. I've explicitly condemned any deliberate targeting of civilians by Hamas. The use of human shields by Hamas is abhorrent. Hamas are war criminals.

I've been very clear in my condemnations. I ask you to acknowledge you have read my condemnations so that I know I won't have to constantly repeat myself as I have already with you.
"I want Hamas killed but no civilian casualties".......

"Now where did I leave my Unicorn? I want to ride up to my fairy castle"
 

Not getting younger

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You'd have better luck getting Mexico to pay for the wall.
possibly.
a) it’s a suggestion no one has considered.
B) given 50 years of peace negotiation failures. It’s not the definition of insanity.
c) will accomplish something. And has better odds of achieving something.
 
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shack

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That's not exactly true. They are deliberately targeting areas populated by civilians where they suspect Hamas is operating. They know they're killing civilians. They hope they're killing Hamas.
I'd phrase it this way.

They have no choice but to target areas populated by civilians where they KNOW Hamas is operating and using those civilians as shields.

Israel knows that the world is watching and holding Israel to a higher standard. They have to be certain of what they are doing.
 
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shack

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I do not approve of Hamas' tactics and right from my first post I've said Hamas is a terrorist organization and it's members should be hunted down and executed. I've explicitly condemned any deliberate targeting of civilians by Hamas. The use of human shields by Hamas is abhorrent. Hamas are war criminals.

I've been very clear in my condemnations. I ask you to acknowledge you have read my condemnations so that I know I won't have to constantly repeat myself as I have already with you.
TBH, I do not specifically recall any of your previous declarations one way or the other. If you say that you have made these condemnations, then I accept what you say in this post at face value. No problem.
 

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I'm speaking about retaliatory attacks against a largely civilian population in response to terrorist attacks in effort to reduce or eliminate the occurrence of terrorist attacks. That was what shack had proposed. When has that ever worked?
It worked dropping Fat Man and Little boy killing mostly civilians forcing Japan to surrender and ending WW2. I know it's not the same circumstance as what you're asking but I suspect that was his thought.
Palestinian civilians have been harbouring hamas terrorists for decades.
Sleep with dogs don't be shocked when you catch flees.

I admire Israel for trying other means for decades.
 
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