Israel at war

basketcase

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This guy has it backwards. We did learn from WW2 and that's why people are protesting against it happening again to the same people under a different religion.

I have no problem with people marching for Palestinian rights, as long as they are not protesting against the rights of Israeli Jews (and Israeli Arabs who overwhelmingly prefer Israeli rule over being in a Palestinian state).

If any organization is promoting a hateful view then they deserve condemnation.
 

basketcase

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You are very qualified to receive all the evidence of your good work.
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Still waiting for you in your histrionics to show that Israelis want that. The only people who have justified the murder of children are the pro-Hamas activists and the racist rednecks who just want every non-white dead.
 

basketcase

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Nobody wants them, and they don't want to be forced out of their homeland anyway. Hence, the best solution is for them to stay where they are without being 'genocided'.

That's what the marches are all about.
More significantly, the Arab leadership like using the Palestinians to keep their publics too busy to complain about their own conditions. That's the reason why Arab states have kept generations of Palestinian descendants locked up in camps with next to no rights and paid for by the UN. But Franky and his cult think Israel is solely to blame because he thinks Arabs can't be accountable for their choices.
 

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Shack, stop lying.

The deaths are horrific on both sides. The only ones here cheering death are the genocidal Israeli supporters.
As usual, Israel is acting the way worse terrorist and killing way more people.
Instead of proving that I lied you are verifying my statement.

You have yet to condemn the Oct. 7 attack as an act of terrorism. All you've done is justify it knowing that Gazans would die and suffer. Hence you are fine with that suffering because you knew what would happen. You can't justify the attack and then decry the predictable aftermath.

Condemn that specific attack on Oct. 7 as an act of terrorism.

Thanks for agreeing that: frank keeps admitting he is cool with the death an suffering of Gazans that has occurred since Oct. 7
 

Frankfooter

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That's funny because you've spent a hell of a lot of time claiming Israeli is illegitimate. You also keep saying Jews have no right to be in Palestine while at the same time you have repeatedly claimed all of Israel is really stolen land.

Sadly you are just a Hamas apologist who keep supporting them because you agree with their often stated goals.
Nah, Hamas still says they'd go for the two state solution and I think backing BDS and ending apartheid is the only path forward.
Besides, Hamas and the Israeli government both need to go spend some alone time at the Hague.

Is Israel about to destroy another hospital? This one with 12,000 refugees?
Don't forget to wear a bib when you're posting, the drool isn't so good for your keyboard.

 

basketcase

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shack, there are thousands of these videos now.
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Thankfully Israel and it's press haven't stopped to publishing pictures of the dead babies Hamas slaughtered on the 7th as they went door to door. Your type also thinks it's a hate crime that people have put up posters of the civilians Hamas kidnapped to hold hostage.

Just more disgusting emotional manipulation by someone who only cares about the Palestinians as long as they give him an excuse to shit on Jews.
 

Frankfooter

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I have no problem with people marching for Palestinian rights, as long as they are not protesting against the rights of Israeli Jews (and Israeli Arabs who overwhelmingly prefer Israeli rule over being in a Palestinian state).

If any organization is promoting a hateful view then they deserve condemnation.
Except that you've repeated stated that backing the two state solution by saying 'Free Palestine' is antisemitic.
 

basketcase

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Shack, stop lying.

The deaths are horrific on both sides. ...
Ah, the both sides schtick from a guy who keeps trying to justify the Jewish deaths.

And he follows up with his bullshit trying to claim the other side are really the bad guys (by claiming that all sorts of Canadians are actually secret Jews who are responsible for everything.
 

Klatuu

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Instead of proving that I lied you are verifying my statement.

You have yet to condemn the Oct. 7 attack as an act of terrorism. All you've done is justify it knowing that Gazans would die and suffer. Hence you are fine with that suffering because you knew what would happen. You can't justify the attack and then decry the predictable aftermath.

Condemn that specific attack on Oct. 7 as an act of terrorism.
You’ve been AWOL on this for quite a while. We’d like your special analysis, sad Shack.

 

Frankfooter

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Instead of proving that I lied you are verifying my statement.
You lied when you said this:
frank keeps admitting he is cool with the death an suffering of Gazans that has occurred since Oct. 7
Despite me calling for a ceasefire repeatedly and saying both sides need to be taken to the Hague.

Are you supporting bombing more babies and refugees?
Or is there a limit to how much genocide even you can back?
 

basketcase

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Except that you've repeated stated that backing the two state solution by saying 'Free Palestine' is antisemitic.
Your lies are getting dumber by the day.

Your "River to the Sea" is as it clearly states the desire to replace Israel with Palestine. Free Palestine is not as long as you mean alongside Israel (which you clearly don't).

And there are plenty of criticisms of Israel that aren't antisemitic but you have proven repeatedly that you are.

Canada's definition of antisemitism:
  • Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
  • Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
  • Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
  • Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
  • Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
  • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
  • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
  • Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
  • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
  • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
You've done every single thing on the list except deny the Holocaust but even there you made excuses for Abbas doing just that.
 
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Frankfooter

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Ah, the both sides schtick from a guy who keeps trying to justify the Jewish deaths.

And he follows up with his bullshit trying to claim the other side are really the bad guys (by claiming that all sorts of Canadians are actually secret Jews who are responsible for everything.
Ah, from one of those fringe Jewish supremacist types.
The kind that backs genocide and the killing of 1600 children.

How soon before you try the Veltman defence?
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After six days with Veltman himself on the stand, a defence in high-profile terrorism trial has — at last — come into view



 

Frankfooter

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Your lies are getting dumber by the day.

Your "River to the Sea" is as it clearly states the desire to replace Israel with Palestine. Free Palestine is not as long as you mean alongside Israel (which you clearly don't).

And there are plenty of criticisms of Israel that aren't antisemitic but you have proven repeatedly that you are.

Canada's definition of antisemitism:
  • Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.
  • Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.
  • Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.
  • Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust).
  • Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.
  • Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.
  • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
  • Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
  • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
  • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
You've done every single thing on the list except deny the Holocaust but even there you made excuses for Abbas doing just that.
You can stick to the zionist definition, I'll stick to the one used by Independent Jewish Voices.

You can keep backing genocide and apartheid and trying to push your antisemitic trope that its racist to call out apartheid.

 

Frankfooter

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Thankfully Israel and it's press haven't stopped to publishing pictures of the dead babies Hamas slaughtered on the 7th as they went door to door. Your type also thinks it's a hate crime that people have put up posters of the civilians Hamas kidnapped to hold hostage.

Just more disgusting emotional manipulation by someone who only cares about the Palestinians as long as they give him an excuse to shit on Jews.
How many dead babies do you think Israel made when they destroyed 42% of all housing in Gaza?
That's terrorism, isn't it? Targeting and destroying civilian infrastructure. You loving it?

How many dead babies do you think lie in the rubble here?
 

mellowjello

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How many dead babies do you think Israel made when they destroyed 42% of all housing in Gaza?
That's terrorism, isn't it? Targeting and destroying civilian infrastructure. You loving it?

How many dead babies do you think lie in the rubble here?
Hey, maybe Israel can dish out some of that reparations they got from Germany,
you know, from one holocaust to another.
 
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