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Butler1000 said:
Real politik.
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While we're on real politik, I have a theory that there's a possibility that Netanyahu saw this coming and let it happen to give him legitimacy to use as much force to go and finish it once and for all. Something doesn't add up, confirmed reports that Egypt intelligence issued warning to Israel, Israeli intelligence is second to none and completely missed it, you have a festival just north of the Gaza border, with no security or relief in sight, such a late response.. I find it hard to believe they would be caught with their pants that far down, Israel just doesn't operate that loose.
Reminds me of all the 911 miscues, it's eerily similar.
 
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mellowjello said:
While we're on real politik, I have a theory that there's a possibility that Netanyahu saw this coming and let it happen to give him legitimacy to use as much force to go and finish it once and for all. Something doesn't add up, confirmed reports that Egypt intelligence issued warning to Israel, Israeli intelligence is second to none and completely missed it, you have a festival just north of the Gaza border, with no security or relief in sight, such a late response.. I find it hard to believe they would be caught with their pants that far down, Israel just doesn't operate that loose.
Reminds me of all the 911 miscues, it's eerily similar.
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The only thing eerily similar is your penchant for being sucked into the vortex of conspiracy theories, 22 years apart.
 
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The only thing eerily similar is your penchant for being sucked into the vortex of conspiracy theories, 22 years apart.
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Sure, conspiracies don't exist right?
And I did say it was just a possibility, but bully for you if you believe that EVERYTHING is as straightforward as it appears.
 
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Butler1000 said:
I guess two carrier groups and the Navy SEALS ready to go has prompted them to understand just how precarious their position is. They will dole them out to try to keep USA SF out but thats just delaying the inevitable.
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Yeah…that’s a guess alright.Your reality testing leaves a lot to be desired as we’ve already seen.

I will stick with an exchange of aid for the Gaza people in return for the release of two hostages.
 
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Hey look guys! Frankie switched his handles to respond to me and deny within 6 minutes of eachother!

Man is he telling on himself or what!
 
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Klatuu said:
This is important

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1715433875206221861
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So, the Israelis want to blow up hospitals, but they have a confirmed MISS (the hospital is still standing) and they DON'T retarget? And this plan to blow up hospitals is conducted at the same time as they are meeting with American representatives - because that won't complicate garnering American support?

And blowing up hospitals will help them destroy Hamas how?

And today Hamas only releases 2 hostages from non-combatant countries? Why not release them all?

So much logical dissonance staring you in the face. You should be better at drawing logical inferences.
 
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mellowjello said:
While we're on real politik, I have a theory that there's a possibility that Netanyahu saw this coming and let it happen to give him legitimacy to use as much force to go and finish it once and for all. Something doesn't add up, confirmed reports that Egypt intelligence issued warning to Israel, Israeli intelligence is second to none and completely missed it, you have a festival just north of the Gaza border, with no security or relief in sight, such a late response.. I find it hard to believe they would be caught with their pants that far down, Israel just doesn't operate that loose.
Reminds me of all the 911 miscues, it's eerily similar.
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Complacency can also be a factor. And honestly no one has said Hamas is incompetent, adding on Iran support. It sounds like they may have figured out a way to get passed the data intel Mossad was securing. The cell tower was Israeli. This was about two years in planning from reports. And other than the drones to take out the defenses really low tech.

Just shows the auto cannons, motion sensors, cameras etc are no match for a human guard.

But sacrificing citizens? No history of this. And the outrage would be unbelievable. Its already there for the failure. The festival organizers should be tried and shot for organizing it there as a "peace thing" . The settlers at least know what they are getting into.

I see more incompetence and complacency here than conspiracy.
 
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Yeah…that’s a guess alright.Your reality testing leaves a lot to be desired as we’ve already seen.

I will stick with an exchange of aid for the Gaza people in return for the release of two hostages.
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No doubt that was another factor. But more of a bonus. The USA has a rule about rescuing their citizens. So long as they hold USA hostages the carriers stay. And the longer they stay the more likely the USA gets involved. They already intercepted rockets from Yemen.

You think TWO CARRIER GROUPS are there to deliver aid? Lol.
 
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Butler1000 said:
No doubt that was another factor. But more of a bonus. The USA has a rule about rescuing their citizens. So long as they hold USA hostages the carriers stay. And the longer they stay the more likely the USA gets involved. They already intercepted rockets from Yemen.

You think TWO CARRIER GROUPS are there to deliver aid? Lol.
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Do you have an official US source for that “rule” or is it just another guess.
 
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Butler1000 said:
No doubt that was another factor. But more of a bonus. The USA has a rule about rescuing their citizens. So long as they hold USA hostages the carriers stay. And the longer they stay the more likely the USA gets involved. They already intercepted rockets from Yemen.

You think TWO CARRIER GROUPS are there to deliver aid? Lol.
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Doesn't the US have rules about backing genocide too?
 
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Seems the Jihad called by hamas friday continues

'You are Jewish', man says as he allegedly punches a woman on subway: NYPD
NYPD’s hate-crimes unit is investigating the incident



An unknown man assaulted an unnamed woman at the 42nd Street and Lexington Avenue subway station in New York City for a reason he made unmistakably clear.

“You are Jewish,” he reportedly said to the 29-year-old after punching her in the face and then fleeing. The attack was reportedly unprovoked.

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'You are Jewish', man says as he allegedly punches a woman on subway: NYPD

NYPD’s hate-crimes unit is investigating the incident.
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What kind of barbarians kidnap old ladies and children?

West Bank pizzeria that featured Holocaust survivor kidnapped by Hamas is despicable




A West Bank pizzeria was razed after the eatery posted an ad that used a photo mocking an elderly Israeli woman taken hostage by Hamas terrorists in the Oct. 7 attack on Israel.

The woman, a Holocaust survivor, was photographed in her wheelchair during the Hamas assault.

The Facebook ad for the unidentified restaurant in the town of Huwara featured the image of the woman, and included her holding a pizza along with the phrase “You are welcome” and several laughing emojis, according to a report in the Times of Israel.

In response, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered the Israel Defense Forces to bulldoze the eatery, according to reports.

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West Bank pizzeria that featured Holocaust survivor kidnapped by Hamas in despicable ad demolished

A West Bank pizzeria was razed after the eatery used a photo of an elderly Israeli woman — who had been taken hostage by Hamas terrorists in the Oct. 7 attack on Israel — in an online a…
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