Israel at war

[Not getting younger]

I don’t think that is true, tho. It would seem that ordinary, non—HAMAS supporting Gazans could easily live with Israelis. Moreover, I believe HAMAS’ support would dwindle if Gazans had access to economic success.

And what, something you Palestinian supporters seem to forget that most Israelis are just normal people too.

And I’m pretty sure after 80 years of reneged on peace treaties, suicide attacks, war crimes, then rockets when crossing fences got harder.

Are done. Mostly likely Hamas and more will be too.

 

[Klatuu]

Ethnic cleansing or not, if the US can take them in and give them a green card, their lives will be so much better. Just saying.

“Ethnic cleansing or not” ? Ethnic cleansing is war crime under the Geneva Convention. And then you throw in a mindless “just saying” after speaking on behalf of a war crime. That’s flat out grotesque.

 

[Frankfooter]

Hamas did not respond to terrorism. They indulged in terrorism to take revenge for the past.

Are you denying the B'tselem report of 233 Israeli terrorist attacks by settlers in 2023?
Why are Israelis allowed to respond to terrorism but not Palestinians?

Why can you not suggest deescalation, ceasefire and the end of apartheid?
Why back more and more rounds of violence?

 

[toguy5252]

I don’t think that is true, tho. It would seem that ordinary, non—HAMAS supporting Gazans could easily live with Israelis. Moreover, I believe HAMAS’ support would dwindle if Gazans had access to economic success.

Gazans could have had access to economic success if their resources had not been diverted to tunnels and rockets etc.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Why should Israel ever be accused of war crimes, when it was Hamas who started the war, in the first place!!

Because if Israel goes into Gaza with a superior armed force and start indiscriminately bombing every building in sight then they will be causing huge civilian casualties. The rules of war are clear that armies are to take every reasonable measure to avoid civilian casualties.

If news stories start coming out of Gaza showing dead Palestinian babies then Israel will be accused of war crimes too…just like HAMAS only worse because Israel is the superior force. It would erode support for Israel around the world, including the US.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yes given the situation I would, and am sure Israel would expect things like these to happen. Which they will use to further justify the apartheid as security measures. Which will cause more responses. Which will cause more reprisals. And round and round we go.

Which is why I back BDS to end apartheid and get off the cycle of violence.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712748605495193872

 

[Klatuu]

Why should Israel ever be accused of war crimes, when it was Hamas who started the war, in the first place!!

What’s your IQ?

 

[mitchell76]

Because if Israel goes into Gaza with a superior armed force and start indiscriminately bombing every building in sight then they will be causing huge civilian casualties. The rules of war are clear that armies are to take every reasonable measure to avoid civilian casualties.

If news stories start coming out of Gaza showing dead Palestinian babies then Israel will be accused of war crimes too…just like HAMAS only worse because Israel is the superior force. It would erode support for Israel around the world, including the US.

So what. Israel's allowed to do whatever they want to defend themselves. Just too repeat, it was Hamas, who started the war, in the first place!! The US already gave permission to Israel to defend themselves, how they see fit!!

 

[mitchell76]

What’s your IQ?

I'm a member of Mensa.

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[Frankfooter]

And despite me saying explicitly that Israel is a racist state that practices apartheid, you accuse me of excusing apartheid. Like do you even read responses? Or are you purposefully gas lighting?

You have only called out Hamas.
Not once have you even suggested that Israel is in the wrong about anything, including the occupation and apartheid.

 

[shack]

Your racism is as much the problem as shack and Zionist racism.

How many people, who have the audacity to disagree with you, have you had a chance to call racist so far? All everybody is saying is that Hamas' attack last week caused the current conflict. The world, outside of the Arab peoples, agrees with this. And even many people of Arab descent agree with this.

You are a fringe element.

Try these fringes instead. It would be an improvement.

 

[Frankfooter]

Ad nauseum. Over and over.

Everyone is racist and supports apartheid and genocide unless they call for and approve terrorist attacks on Israel.

No, shack.

You can join a call to end apartheid and genocide and end the violence.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712748605495193872

 

[shack]

Well the reprisal was always going to be brutal. The question is did you not expect that it wont happen that way? Because am sure Hamas did. Yet they attacked.

Hence, they care nothing about the welfare of the Gazans. There is no other conclusion to be had.

frank is too coward to admit that he very well knew that there would be reprisals and that the Gazans would be the ones paying the price. Yet he considers himself to be a crusader for the noble cause. Yeah, right.

 

[Frankfooter]

How many people, who have the audacity to disagree with you, have you had a chance to call racist so far? All everybody is saying is that Hamas' attack last week caused the current conflict. The world, outside of the Arab peoples, agrees with this. And even many people of Arab descent agree with this.

You are a fringe element.

Try these fringes instead. It would be an improvement.

No shack, you're in the fringe minority. Even if its a louder group on this board in the real world you're in a minority.
69% of Canadians say Israel is apartheid.

Survey: Canadians view Israel as apartheid, not a vibrant democracy

A recent survey finds that when Canadians are presented with possible descriptions of Israel, the most popular opinion is that Israel is “a state with segregation similar to apartheid.” Only a small minority view Israel as a “vibrant democracy.” The findings provide a profound challenge to...

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84% of Canadians agree with me that the ICC should investigate Israeli war crimes.

Survey: Regarding ICC, Canadians Reject Double Standard for Israel

Click here to read the full report (PDF) Montreal, September 16, 2020 — Amid growing controversy over a possible International Criminal Court (ICC) investigation into Israel, newly published results from a survey conducted by EKOS Research Associates show that Canadians do not want Israel to be

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How many Canadians do you think will back the genocide you're calling for?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712998474017296589

 

[Frankfooter]

Literally READ the very statement you are responding to!! WTF!

I did, you admitted Israel is apartheid then went on and on ranting about how Hamas terrorism is the only issue.
Not Israeli terrorism, not the occupation, not apartheid, not ethnic cleansing and not genocide.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

And what, something you Palestinian supporters seem to forget that most Israelis are just normal people too.

And I’m pretty sure after 80 years of reneged on peace treaties, suicide attacks, war crimes, then rockets when crossing fences got harder.

Are done. Mostly likely Hamas and more will be too.

I don’t see myself as being either a Palestinian or Israeli supporter.

I could certainly understand Israelis’ reluctance to allow Gazans access to the rest of Israel, especially in light of recent events.

Regardless, as long as Gaza remains what many describe as the world’s largest open air prison” events like these are going to continue. I am not glad to see this happen…I wish it didn’t happen…but my wishes have no bearing on what will inevitably continue to unfold between these two groups of people.

 

[Frankfooter]

And almost a 100% of Canadians barring you and Klatuu will agree that what the Hamas did last week was terrorism. Not self-defence. Not a response to what happened earlier in the year. But good ol' terrorism.

And almost 100% will support both sides being held to the law equally and the end of apartheid.
As I repeatedly call for.

You've already admitted that what Israel does is also terrorism but still somehow think Hamas is still the only problem.

 

[shack]

Save your outrage for Israel This Israeli attack and slaughter of civilians will be the greatest recruiting drive in history.

No diff. Whomever they recruit already hates Israel and Jews.

 

[shack]

They specifically said they were responding.

Like you, they can say whatever and lie as much as they like. The timeline irrefutably proves otherwise.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

So what. Israel's allowed to do whatever they want to defend themselves. Just too repeat, it was Hamas, who started the war, in the first place!! The US already gave permission to Israel to defend themselves, how they see fit!!

No, Mitch. Israel is not allowed to do “whatever they want to defend themselves”. If the IDF go into Gaza and start filming themselves cutting the heads off babies there is going to be a problem. And if they just start bombing civilian targets there will also be a problem.

President Biden has made this clear by stressing the need for Israel to follow the Rules of War as they defend themselves. If they don’t it will become difficult for the US to provide Israel its unqualified support.