Israel at war

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At some point citizens must bear the burdens thrust upon them by the leadership they choose. German and Japanese civilians suffered this fate in WWII. The lesson is - stop supporting evil leadership.
Do you think that logic was at work during the Hamas attack?
 
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Just a thought. In the close to 50 years or whatever it is that the PLO/ Hamas has controlled Gaza, considering the billions of dollars that have been donated to them, you'd think that their game plan of waging an endless war against their landlords, Israel, at some point wouldn't they consider building air raid shelters, bunkers, etc. for their citizens?
If you are launching constant attacks on your well armed overlords mightn't it be prudent to make sure you are prepared somewhat for the inevitable retaliation? Hospitals with no electricity or water. Civilians with no food or water or electricity. No shelter. People being bombed out of their apartments. Fuck all in the way of dealing with the destruction to the civilian population. Makes you wonder who's in charge of planning.
I doubt Hamas operatives are above ground while this is going on. They are in tunnels somewhere raping and torturing hostages they rounded up while they sit this one out.
 

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Do you think that logic was at work during the Hamas attack?
Hamas was in the wrong, and Palestinian citizens will bear the burden of their evil. Gaza is governed by evil leadership. Israel is not.
 

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Just a thought. In the close to 50 years or whatever it is that the PLO/ Hamas has controlled Gaza, considering the billions of dollars that have been donated to them, you'd think that their game plan of waging an endless war against their landlords, Israel, at some point wouldn't they consider building air raid shelters, bunkers, etc. for their citizens?
If you are launching constant attacks on your well armed overlords mightn't it be prudent to make sure you are prepared somewhat for the inevitable retaliation? Hospitals with no electricity or water. Civilians with no food or water or electricity. No shelter. People being bombed out of their apartments. Fuck all in the way of dealing with the destruction to the civilian population. Makes you wonder who's in charge of planning.
I doubt Hamas operatives are above ground while this is going on. They are in tunnels somewhere raping and torturing hostages they rounded up while they sit this one out.
when have they ever given a fuck about their citizens?
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Klatuu

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Hamas was in the wrong, and Palestinian citizens will bear the burden of their evil. Gaza is governed by evil leadership. Israel is not.
History and facts say otherwise but your response was expected and par for the racist discourse.
 

Dutch Oven

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History and facts say otherwise but your response was expected and par for the racist discourse.
I don't need any historical analysis to know that targeting the slaughter of civilians without ANY collateral military objective and without ANY proximate and related provocation is evil. If you don't know this as well, I think I can write off everything you are saying on this thread as irrational, and frankly dangerous.
 
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I don't need any historical analysis to know that targeting the slaughter of civilians without ANY collateral military objective and without ANY proximate and related provocation is evil. If you don't know this as well, I think I can write off everything you are saying on this thread as irrational, and frankly dangerous.
Proudly uninformed.
 

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I think the article and Twitter thread say that. They also say that Israel supplies 50% of Gaza's electricity free of charge and that this had now been cut. And that HAMAS' leadership is so corrupt and incompetent that it loots international aid to build primitive assinine weapons and bunkers and purchase to luxuries for the leaders.
Even primitive asinine weapons kill people. And they are receiving very sophisticated weapons from Iran. Hamas cares nothing about the Palestinian people. less than even frankie or klatuu.
 
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Even primitive asinine weapons kill people. And they are receiving very sophisticated weapons from Iran. Hamas cares nothing about the Palestinian people. less than even frankie or klatuu.
The same brainwashed script. Like trained seals.
 
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Probably because most of that footage actually IS Ukraine. Or some other place.

Fake videos are already notorious and widespread.
Look, mandrill, another photo op?
Think this photo is fake?
And I think the babies are under the rubble to the left.

Good thing there are no civilians in Gaza otherwise this would be terrorism.

 

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Even primitive asinine weapons kill people. And they are receiving very sophisticated weapons from Iran. Hamas cares nothing about the Palestinian people. less than even frankie or klatuu.
Not like the occupying power that is responsible for the welfare of the refugees living in the prison camp of Gaza.
Look, they sent some special aid packages to the medical teams of Gaza.

 

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At some point citizens must bear the burdens thrust upon them by the leadership they choose. German and Japanese civilians suffered this fate in WWII. The lesson is - stop supporting evil leadership.
Yes, the ICC needs to lock up Netanyahu for the rest of his life.
Along with the leaders of Hamas for targeting civilians, of course.

56% of Israelis believe Netanyahu should resign at end of conflict with Palestine: Poll
4 of 5 Jewish Israelis attribute blame to government, Netanyahu for Hamas’ Operation Al-Aqsa Flood against Israel
 

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Proudly uninformed.
Really? What was the military objective collaterally connected with Hamas' attacks on Israeli civilians? What was the like provocation of Gaza/Hamas that immediately preceded the attacks? What justified the killing of unarmed children, elderley, and the disabled? Please do INFORM me!

I already know what the answers are - NOTHING!

The attacks were nothing but a crime born of anger and opportunity - in other words - EVIL.

You seem to be proud to be amoral. That's nothing to be proud of. I guess that's what you must mean by "informed".
 
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Dutch Oven

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I wouldn't say there isn't any provocation. I mean it is a 75 year conflict after all.
You overlooked the words "proximate and related".
 

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The brainwashing is astounding.
You really had nothing to say other than that...no argument whatsoever...but stay...you might not get the education you need but at least you provide humor....
 

Klatuu

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Really? What was the military objective collaterally connected with Hamas' attacks on Israeli civilians? What was the like provocation of Gaza/Hamas that immediately preceded the attacks? What justified the killing of unarmed children, elderley, and the disabled? Please do INFORM me!

I already know what the answers are - NOTHING!

The attacks were nothing but a crime born of anger and opportunity - in other words - EVIL.

You seem to be proud to be amoral. That's nothing to be proud of. I guess that's what you must mean by "informed".
Well, what did Mohammed Deif say was behind the attack?
 
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