Israel at war

mandrill

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How is that much different than it is now?

The blockade is 17 years old now, that's 17 years where Israel has controlled the borders, the amount of electricity, food and water the people of Gaza get. 75% of whom are refugees, 50% are children, most of whom are living through their 5th or 6th attack.

Netanyahu just tweeted this.
Frankie, what would happen if Israel tore down the barbed wire fences and let the Gazans roam freely?....

That's right. Hamas would rape, kill and torture more innocents. So why would Israel do it?!

I get it. The majority of Gazans just want to be treated decently and to co exist. But what about the 10% or 20% who want to kill Israelis?

It's time the Egyptians just let the Gazans into Egypt or wherever else. The Gazans and Israelis are never going to co exist and living in Gaza will never be normal.
 

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It's time the Egyptians just let the Gazans into Egypt or wherever else. The Gazans and Israelis are never going to co exist and living in Gaza will never be normal.
yeah like Egyptians are dumb enough to take them
 

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I see you have one like from the resident East Indian anti semite. I guess he has the solution. Bring them to Canada.
It's strange because further upthread he said something like he didn't follow Israel issues, yet he is one of, if not THE most, prolific posters (trolls?) in this thread. In a matter of hours he seems to have become a know-it-all on such a complex issue.
 
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I haven't said much on Israel or Palestine. Just on the Trump minions arguing how their glorious leader would have single handedly solved world peace!
The only people invoking Trump are the likes of you and others like you (trolls?).

Example: I made a post about the current POTUS, and of course someone with TDS immediately invoked Trump. So I replied.

It's the same throughout this thread.

And you are not being honest, you have a strong anti Israel bias in such a quick order, a mere matter of hours. It would behoove you to take heed of your own signature line.
 
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basketcase

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Two problems with that. Israeli intelligence being touted as the best in the world, shouldn't be distracted or foiled by protests and riots after all these years.
And they have one of these....
Israeli intelligence being good doesn't mean that Hamas counterintelligence can't also be good. I am sure that between Hamas' people and their Iranian backers, there are plenty of smart people.
 

Frankfooter

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Frankie, what would happen if Israel tore down the barbed wire fences and let the Gazans roam freely?....

That's right. Hamas would rape, kill and torture more innocents. So why would Israel do it?!

I get it. The majority of Gazans just want to be treated decently and to co exist. But what about the 10% or 20% who want to kill Israelis?

It's time the Egyptians just let the Gazans into Egypt or wherever else. The Gazans and Israelis are never going to co exist and living in Gaza will never be normal.
No, Mandrill, that's as close to hate speech as I've heard from you on this board and it runs very much counter to even the pro Israeli crowd. They repeatedly used to us 'Israeli Arabs', or Palestinians living inside the Israeli side of the borders as an example of equality. Its not, the reports say its still apartheid, but even so, what it does show is that those 'Israeli Arabs can live more or less peacefully with the Jewish population.

Israeli apartheid is in three levels, from the lower level of inside the green line, to Jerusalem and to the worse situation in the West Bank with separate roads, laws, infrastructure and rights to the Gaza strip, which is perhaps the most inhumane and largest prison on the planet.

What those three levels should show a moderate is that if you give Palestinians basic human rights, or even just enough that they can live their lives, you won't get war. Hamas' public statements have been about a 75 year occupation, settler attacks and no peace. Not about genocide.

If you let Gaza free they will visit their occupied homes, visit family in the west bank, try to find jobs to combat the 47% unemployment, try to get clean water in a place where 90% is undrinkable, travel out of the country if they can and try to live their lives. Hamas would lose their power if they weren't needed.

Israel kills way more people than Hamas but you don't call them genocidal, even after Bibi said he will keep all food and water from reaching Gaza.

Gaza is part of what used to be Palestine. Now its the one state Israeli apartheid state.
The fight now should be for equal rights.
 

basketcase

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Nice of you to call Khalistani terrorists Sikhs who want independence, and show your hatred for Palestinians who want independence, and call them terrorists. See how it goes?
Wow your posts are getting dumb.

There are plenty of Sikhs and Palestinians wanting independence who pursue their goals by peaceful means. They aren't terrorists. Hamas and the International Sikh Youth federation are and they deserve condemnation, especially if they launch a way killing thousands of civilians just for the sake of their egos.
 

Frankfooter

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Wow your posts are getting dumb.

There are plenty of Sikhs and Palestinians wanting independence who pursue their goals by peaceful means. They aren't terrorists. Hamas and the International Sikh Youth federation are and they deserve condemnation, especially if they launch a way killing thousands of civilians just for the sake of their egos.
There are plenty of Jews who don't support apartheid and Jewish terrorism as well.
You're just not one of them.
 

basketcase

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Israel has chosen to occupy Palestine for 75 years and rule Palestinians through apartheid.
That is why there is violence.
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I know you think Arabs are too far beneath you to make choices but Hamas chose to launch an attack, intentionally murdering hundreds of civilians and kidnapping children and the elderly. Every time you try to blame Israel for Hamas' terrorism just shows how racist you are.
 
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Frankfooter

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Keep on proving you have no interest in equal rights with you pretence that all of Israel is really Palestine.
Please state where the borders of Palestine lie.
Show your work on a map.

Then explain why you think Israel should keep ruling that land through apartheid.
 
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