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Robert Mugabe

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Suggest a solution.
Well, far smarter people than me tried. However I'll have a go. Palestinians were sitting and shitting on a piece of sand for a couple of thousands of years and not doing anything with it. Jews started returning to the same patch of sand at the beginning of the last century and more came after the European holocaust. They established the state of Israel and proceeded to get busy. Turning the desert that the occupants at the time were doing nothing much with into productive farm land.
will rogers.jpg They offered the Arabs full citizenship and a piece of the pie. An offer which was soundly rejected with a counter offer of all their neighbors attacking them in a full scale war with the stated intention of annihilating them.
Now to cut to the chase. If the patch of sand they were living on is the main bone of contention, why not move to another patch of sand. The middle east has lots of room with Arab neighbors. Why not donate an area where they could move and prosper? Fighting over the one they've got doesn't seem to be working.
 
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y2kmark

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Suggest a solution.
Return to 1967 borders and let the Jordanians and Egyptians turf all the squatters, or "settlers" if you prefer, out. Repatriate any refugees who want back on the land and institute a true democracy where everyone who lives in Israel gets a vote. Very simple, not so easy...
 

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"And as was predicted, Russia is trying to frame Ukraine for the Hamas terrorist attack by using "trophy weapons" they've gotten from the Ukrainian troops."

Only a fool would believe the Russians. Just a couple of examples:
1) They lied to the British Indian army soldiers that their bullets were greased with pig/cow lard.
2) They claimed the Nazis murdered the Poles in the forest in WWII.

"An uprising in several sepoy companies of the Bengal army was sparked by the issue of new gunpowder cartridges for the Enfield rifle in February 1857. Loading the Enfield often required tearing open the greased cartridge with one's teeth, and many sepoys believed that the cartridges were greased with cow and pig fat.[1] That would have insulted both Hindu and Muslim religious practices; cows were considered holy by Hindus, and pigs were considered unclean (Haram) by Muslims."
 

Robert Mugabe

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Palestinian problem reminds me of this. They only want "THAT" particular patch of sand. "It's very existential. "

 

Darts

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I heard there are Palestinians living in Iran. They are employed by the mullahs to attack peaceful protesters.
 

mandrill

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Well, far smarter people than me tried. However I'll have a go. Palestinians were sitting and shitting on a piece of sand for a couple of thousands of years and not doing anything with it. Jews started returning to the same patch of sand at the beginning of the last century and more came after the European holocaust. They established the state of Israel and proceeded to get busy. Turning the desert that the occupants at the time were doing nothing much with into productive farm land.
They offered the Arabs full citizenship and a piece of the pie. An offer which was soundly rejected with a counter offer of all their neighbors attacking them in a full scale war with the stated intention of annihilating them.
Now to cut to the chase. If the patch of sand they were living on is the main bone of contention, why not move to another patch of sand. The middle east has lots of room with Arab neighbors. Why not donate an area where they could move and prosper? Fighting over the one they've got doesn't seem to be working.
Because no one wants them. And their Arab neighbors milk their plight for propaganda purposes.

The Gazans are trapped in their enclave and cannot leave. And Hamas is a military dictatorship which justifies this situation by preaching about an eternal war for the lost lands and for vengeance.
 

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"And as was predicted, Russia is trying to frame Ukraine for the Hamas terrorist attack by using "trophy weapons" they've gotten from the Ukrainian troops."

Only a fool would believe the Russians. Just a couple of examples:
1) They lied to the British Indian army soldiers that their bullets were greased with pig/cow lard.
2) They claimed the Nazis murdered the Poles in the forest in WWII.

"An uprising in several sepoy companies of the Bengal army was sparked by the issue of new gunpowder cartridges for the Enfield rifle in February 1857. Loading the Enfield often required tearing open the greased cartridge with one's teeth, and many sepoys believed that the cartridges were greased with cow and pig fat.[1] That would have insulted both Hindu and Muslim religious practices; cows were considered holy by Hindus, and pigs were considered unclean (Haram) by Muslims."
Not sure if the Russians were involved in the Indian Mutiny. I think that's just a legend started by Victorian paranoia.
 
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Robert Mugabe

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Because no one wants them. And their Arab neighbors milk their plight for propaganda purposes.

The Gazans are trapped in their enclave and cannot leave. And Hamas is a military dictatorship which justifies this situation by preaching about an eternal war for the lost lands and for vengeance.
Yea. I get it.
 

Robert Mugabe

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"An uprising in several sepoy companies of the Bengal army was sparked by the issue of new gunpowder cartridges for the Enfield rifle in February 1857. Loading the Enfield often required tearing open the greased cartridge with one's teeth, and many sepoys believed that the cartridges were greased with cow and pig fat.[1] That would have insulted both Hindu and Muslim religious practices; cows were considered holy by Hindus, and pigs were considered unclean (Haram) by Muslims."
Sounds like a delicious recipe for world peace.
 

Kautilya

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The same thing US intelligence was doing on 9/11. Their jobs? Or are you perfect?

Ans have we not learned by now, that they or gangs, or whomever are smart? And not “uneducated rednecks” because they don’t have pedigrees, and to be taken lightly?
Not sure why people think that if there is an intelligence agency they need to know EVERYTHING or are even capable of doing so. The enemies know how to outwit them too!
 
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