You said Israel was in a war with Palestinians, now you're saying they are also at war with a few other states?
They really aren't peaceful in the least, are they?
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They really aren't peaceful in the least, are they?
You have also never come out and criticized Israeli politicians or the Likud party for saying they are taking all of Palestine.
You didn't post anything critical of Netanyahu with his map at the UN.
You have never criticized new settlements, saying only 'its not the problem'.
There is a massive list of things you will never state:
1 Where are the borders of Palestine
2 Is Israel at war with Palestine
3 Is Israel occupying Palestine
4 Why you support apartheid
5 Do Palestinians deserve basic human rights
6 Where are the borders of Israel
No, I said that there have been multiple wars between Hamas and Israel as a result of Hamas launching war crime rockets towards Israeli cities.
Of course your ridiculous racism has you claiming Jews are warlike but the Arab states that declared war and have refused any kind of peace are peace loving.
Wow your claims are utterly moronic because with even a few seconds searching through this very thread will find plenty of posts where I condemn Netanyahu, his party, and his government. You will also find many, many posts where I criticize the settler movement.
And no, I didn't criticize the map because that is the current area that Israel occupies. Far more understandable than the aspirational Palestinian maps showing only Palestine which you have no issue with. Debased double standard from you again.
This is yet another attempt by you to convince yourself that you actually have a hint of morality because you know how zealot-like your opinions are.
Wow your posts are dumb. I guess that's what you have to do when your arguments are simply a racist double standard. In your racist mind, all of Israel is really Palestinian land and Jews have no right to be there. For the rest of us, the Green line separates Israel from occupied territories.
p.s. Many Israeli Jews are in their native land. Half of the population is descended from Arab Jews, either from the immediate area or chased from their homes over antisemitism .
and:
1, 6) according to the UN, the final borders of Israel and Palestine can only be achieved through negotiations based around the Green Line.
2) Israel and Hamas have been at war many times. Right now there is a truce though not peace. Israel is not at war with the PA.
3) More moronic mumblings. Of course Israel is currently occupying the West Bank under both the Israeli-Jordanian peace treaty and Oslo Accords.
4) Do you think you have a right to make up new definitions to stoke emotions when the facts don't support it?
5) Of course. Unlike you I actually look at what they say and hold them accountable for their actions.
Now your turn.
1 Why do you think the existence of Jewish terrorists makes Jewish civilians fair game?
2 Why are you incapable of criticizing Palestinian leaders who reject any concept of peace with or alongside Jews or even admitting that there are Palestinian terrorists?
3 Why do you think equal rights doesn't apply to Jews travelling in the West Bank or visiting shared religious sites?
4 Why do you oppose the idea of pushing both sides to engage in negotiations?
5 Why do you think peace can be created by either Israel or the UN forcing their opinions on the Palestinians?
6 Why are you absolutely silent on more than half of Palestinians supporting violence as a solution and supporting "armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel"?
So you do think that Israel is at war with Palestinians and have been for how long?
75 years?
Or are you claiming they are only at war with Gaza?
Do you consider Gaza a country?
So many question you can never answer about the country you love.
No, you don't criticize Netanyahu.
Almost every post in these threads mentions Hamas, but never Netanyahu.
1 - You still can't say where you think the borders of Israel lie.
2 - Legally, its an occupation. Not a war.
3 - Israel is occupying Palestine, including Gaza and the West Bank. Gaza is not a country.
4 - The UN, HRW, Amnesty and HRW use international law and investigations to report that Israel is apartheid. Not emotion. They present the facts, you present butt hurt emotions.
5 - The clam you support basic human rights means you can't support apartheid, but you do.
6 - You can't answer why you claim to be against violence yet support the side illegally occupying the other's country and committing almost 10x more violence.
1 - false premise. try again
2 - I've repeatedly said Abbas is a corrupt moron and Hamas should hold elections again.
3 - Straw man, I've never stated any such thing
4 - Straw man, I've never stated any such thing
5 - I don't, I think BDS and international sanctions will end apartheid as it did in South Africa. Its an occupation, not a war. To end it you need to give all the indigenous people full basic human rights, including the right to vote and the right of return.
6 - Israel has no international right to violence to defend an illegal, apartheid occupation. Palestinians have the legal right to self defence. But the best solution is still sanctions through BDS and a non violent end to the occupation through granting full human rights and equality.
Why are you so against equality?
Your ramblings are getting incoherent. You should just go back to trying to justify the murder of Jewish civilians.
And what a surprise that you refuse to answer any questions that might suggest that Palestinians aren't all innocents. You do realize your posts supporting attacks on Jewish civilians, your excuses for vile behaviours by Palestinian leaders, your claims that Jews visiting their holy site are desecrations, your rejection of peace talks, and your support for Palestinian violence is all here in this thread for anyone to see.
And yes, it's disgusting that despite what B'Tselem, Amnesty, HRW, and international law say, you keep trying to pretend that no Jew in Israel is actually a civilian (while also trying to pretend Palestinian members of designated terrorist entities engaged in gun fights are civilians).
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You are fucking dumb if you believe that. I'm sure you can find at least 20 posts in this thread alone where I condemn Netanyahu. You just don't like that I argue for a negotiated peace both sides can accept instead of your continual promotion of violence and racism.
Now posts where you actually criticize Palestinian leadership? Occasionally you criticize Abbas because he talked peace and occasionally call him corrupt as a reason for you to continue backing Hamas.
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You keep lying about what I post in order to defend your racial supremacy. There are of course Israeli Jewish civilians, but they become harder and harder for anyone identify against militant Jewish Israelis. For instance, do you think the 800 Jews backed by the IDF who stormed the Al Aqsa, setting Hamas off in response, were civilians out to worship, or militants out to trigger yet another series of reprisal attacks?
Over 800 Israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa compound on Sukkot
Rabbis, heads of settlement associations and far-right university lecturers were among 832 people who stormed the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound on Thursday morning.
I find racial supremacists of all types disgusting. White supremacists, Islamaphobes, or Jewish supremacists.
Apartheid is only one level down from genocide in racial supremacist crimes against humanity.
Congrats, your violent religious extremists have started yet another round of violence.
This:
Over 800 Israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa compound on Sukkot
Rabbis, heads of settlement associations and far-right university lecturers were among 832 people who stormed the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound on Thursday morning.
Has lead to this:
Israel-Palestine escalation updates: Gaza under bombardment
These are the updates for the escalation between Palestinian fighters and Israel military on Saturday, October 7, 2023.
75 years of racial violence and supremacy agains the indigenous population.
You can stand with the racists or you can stand with those against racism like the good people at IJVCanada.
Hamas terrorists started the latest war on Israel
The Palestinian Islamist group Hamas launched the biggest attack on Israel in years on Saturday in a surprise assault that combined gunmen crossing into several Israeli towns with a heavy barrage of rockets fired from the Gaza Strip.
As warning sirens wailed across southern and central Israel, including in Jerusalem, Israel's military said it was on a war footing and the defence minister said the Iran-backed Hamas had made a "grave mistake" by declaring war on Israel.
"We are at war," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a televised address, declaring a mass mobilization of the country's army reserves. "Not an 'operation,' not a 'round,' but at war."
The Israeli military said it had launched airstrikes into Gaza, where witnesses reported hearing heavy explosions.
At least 22 Israelis were killed in the incursion, according to Israel's ambulance service. The Health Ministry said 545 Israelis were wounded.
The Palestinian Islamist group Hamas launched the biggest attack on Israel in years on Saturday in a surprise assault that combined gunmen crossing into several Israeli towns with a heavy barrage of rockets fired from the Gaza Strip.
As warning sirens wailed across southern and central Israel, including in Jerusalem, Israel's military said it was on a war footing and the defence minister said the Iran-backed Hamas had made a "grave mistake" by declaring war on Israel.
"We are at war," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a televised address, declaring a mass mobilization of the country's army reserves. "Not an 'operation,' not a 'round,' but at war."
The Israeli military said it had launched airstrikes into Gaza, where witnesses reported hearing heavy explosions.
At least 22 Israelis were killed in the incursion, according to Israel's ambulance service. The Health Ministry said 545 Israelis were wounded.
No, it was in response to 800 settlers attacking the Al Aqsa, the same way the last round of violence started in 2021.
typical of Franky to justify terrorist attacks on Israelis the same he is justifying terrorists attacks in the other India Thread
I love when you prove exactly what I'm saying.You keep lying about what I post in order to defend your racial supremacy. There are of course Israeli Jewish civilians, but they become harder and harder for anyone identify against militant Jewish Israelis. For instance, do you think the 800 Jews backed by the IDF who stormed the Al Aqsa, setting Hamas off in response, were civilians out to worship, or militants out to trigger yet another series of reprisal attacks?
Over 800 Israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa compound on Sukkot
Rabbis, heads of settlement associations and far-right university lecturers were among 832 people who stormed the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound on Thursday morning.www.newarab.com
I find racial supremacists of all types disgusting. White supremacists, Islamaphobes, or Jewish supremacists.
Apartheid is only one level down from genocide in racial supremacist crimes against humanity.
And you also prove I'm right by supporting Hamas' right to attack Israel and kidnap civilians. You obviously don't give a shit about peace and international law, just hatred of Jews.
Way to prove your racist chops. Jews peacefully PEACEFULLY visit their holy site as arrange through the Jordanian WAQF and Hamas launches a well planned war that includes kidnapping civilians.
Your disgusting racism is fucking pathetic.
You said Israel is at war with Hamas and Palestinians.
A war that has been going on for 75 years.
Now you're surprised that when yet another mob of hundreds of armed settlers backed by the army raided the Al Aqsa the same thing happened, Hamas responded.
This is your war, your racist colonial settler war.
Its not the fault of the native population.
Its the fault of the racist, apartheid occupying power.
