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In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

Frankfooter

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"Yasser Arafat and Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Foreign Minister Shimon Peres were jointly awarded the Nobel Prize for Peace in 1994.
The return of Arafat was the beginning of the enactment of the Declaration of Principles agreed at the Oslo Peace Accords signed in Washington in 1993.

Under the agreement, the Palestinian National Authority took control of the newly autonomous areas - Gaza and Jericho - and in 1996 Arafat became its elected president."
Yes, and after 20+ years of the Oslo Accords all that happened was Israel stalled while Bibi put more 'facts in the ground'.
Bibi used Oslo to kill the two state solution.
 

Robert Mugabe

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Yes, and after 20+ years of the Oslo Accords all that happened was Israel stalled while Bibi put more 'facts in the ground'.
Bibi used Oslo to kill the two state solution.
Well Israel offered the Palestinians equal citizenship rights when they first declared the state of Israel. Obviously the Palestinians didn't like that offer. The only thing for sure is that the situation will remain as it is.
 

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Well Israel offered the Palestinians equal citizenship rights when they first declared the state of Israel. Obviously the Palestinians didn't like that offer. The only thing for sure is that the situation will remain as it is.
No they didn't.
They made plans for war before partition to happen at the start of partition.
That war involved ethnically cleansing as much of Palestine as they could.

Which has basically been going on since.

 

basketcase

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No they didn't.
They made plans for war before partition to happen at the start of partition.
That war involved ethnically cleansing as much of Palestine as they could.

Which has basically been going on since.

Ah, using that pathetically incorrect map to try and distract from your celebration of Hamas launching yet another pointless war.
 
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Well Israel offered the Palestinians equal citizenship rights when they first declared the state of Israel. Obviously the Palestinians didn't like that offer. The only thing for sure is that the situation will remain as it is.
Since day 1 they have been sold the dream of driving the jews out.
 

Frankfooter

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Since day 1 they have been sold the dream of driving the jews out.
Do you mean day one when the land was called Palestine and a foreign colonial movement decided to take 'a land without people for a people without land'? In the land that is now called Israel and where the country of Palestine has been erased from all maps?

That sounds exactly the same to me.
Zionists are just like Hamas, only they have tanks, jets and nukes.

End apartheid, give Palestinians full basic human rights and equality.

Get this straight, Western media: Palestinians aren’t sub-human
Dehumanisation of Palestinians is as central to Israel’s war strategy as the deadly missiles it wields.
 

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Well Israel offered the Palestinians equal citizenship rights when they first declared the state of Israel. Obviously the Palestinians didn't like that offer. The only thing for sure is that the situation will remain as it is.
Source. Please!
 

Klatuu

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Are you referring to this?

“The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, issued on 14 May 1948, offered “the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel … full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.” This ostensibly universal provision was no more, at this delicate moment, than necessary lip-service paid to the international community by the signatories of the Declaration: “the representatives of the Jewish Community of Eretz-Israel and of the Zionist Movement.”

I can see why you didn’t post this text or the link. It says that it was completely meaningless.

It goes on to say this:

“ Right from the beginning, Israel's leaders took measures and adopted policies that rendered the idea of citizenship empty and meaningless insofar as the indigenous Palestinians were concerned.”
 
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Robert Mugabe

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Are you referring to this?

“The Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel, issued on 14 May 1948, offered “the Arab inhabitants of the State of Israel … full and equal citizenship and due representation in all its provisional and permanent institutions.” This ostensibly universal provision was no more, at this delicate moment, than necessary lip-service paid to the international community by the signatories of the Declaration: “the representatives of the Jewish Community of Eretz-Israel and of the Zionist Movement.”

I can see why you didn’t post this text or the link. It says that it was completely meaningless.

It goes on to say this:

“ Right from the beginning, Israel's leaders took measures and adopted policies that rendered the idea of citizenship empty and meaningless insofar as the indigenous Palestinians were concerned.”
Sorry. Didn't get into it so deeply as you. Fact has remained for years. Palestinians can join the IDF. Be elected to the Knesset. Raise their children. Get 3 squares a day and a roof over their head. Normal every day stuff. In Israel. Don't have to blow shit up.
Maybe if the Palestinians were normal they could have welcomed Jews into the fold after the Holocaust and worked together to make a pleasant place to live in. Instead of being fucking drama queens.
Before this shit got hot Israel was a viable tourist destination. Civilized place with well organized infrastructure and warm friendly people who could assure you of a safe and hospitable visit.
Can you name one Arab country that one would feel safe to visit?
 
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Klatuu

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“It is important not to minimise or condone the heinous crimes committed by Hamas. But it is also important to remind ourselves that everything it is inflicting on us now, we have been inflicting on the Palestinians for years. Indiscriminate firing, including at children and older people; intrusion into their homes; burning down their houses; taking hostages – not just fighters but civilians, children and older people. I keep reminding myself that ignoring this context is giving up a piece of my own humanity. Because violence devoid of any context leads to only one possible response: revenge. And I don’t want revenge from anyone. Because revenge is the opposite of security, it is the opposite of peace, it is also the opposite of justice. It is nothing but more violence.”

 
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basketcase

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Apartheid first. If that bigotry comes back to bite us, double down to genocide.

And how is that different from what you and your palls do? The restaurant in Mississauga that held an all night party? The rallies in support of Hamas? the taunting about 70o Jew skilled from Hamas backers?

And hamas tries to back up their words.
 
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