In the 21st century, anti-Zionism means anti-Semitism

[basketcase]

No, you posted a very old general statement by the IHRC.
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Yes. International law. It hasn't been rewritten and is still the official view of international law. And it said clearly that civilians directly engaged in violence at that time lose civilian status. You keep trying to claim that looking like other Jews is enough of a justification while saying that Palestinians actively shooting at Israelis are entitled those civilian protections.

Your promotion and excuses for racial violence are disgusting and I'm sure there's some small part of you that knows it.

 

[basketcase]

No, you have thousands of posts labelling Palestinians as terrorists ...

Sadly I do have thousands of posts labelling certain Palestinians as terrorists. That's because there are thousands of incidents where Palestinian terrorists in Hamas, PFLP, PIJ, and Al Aqsa intentional target what international law considers civilians.

I also condemn Jewish terrorists because unlike you, I am able of holding to some king of consistent ethnic not based solely on the religions of the people. You can go back and look at my posts about the IRA and UDF having been terrorists even though they are of my background. Also you can see posts where I condemn the Tamil Tigers and Proud Boys. you just hold to your racist diatribes claiming everything about Israel is terrorist and making excuses for any group that shares your hatred of Israel existing. You even defend Iran which the UN has accused of Gender Apartheid simply because Iranian terror groups hate Israel.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yes. International law. It hasn't been rewritten and is still the official view of international law.

You defended the Great March of Return where over 13,000 civilian Palestinians were injured by IDF forces during weekly protests for basic human rights.
You called them 'violent' to defend targeting women, children, medics, disabled, journalists and civilians.
You justified using snipers hiding behind a prison wall to shoot unarmed civilians which you declared 'just' because you labelled them 'violent'.

You back an illegal occupation and apartheid rule.
You have no respect for international law.

Gaza’s Great March of Return protests explained

Here’s the backstory of the Great March of Return protests and the conditions that have brought Gaza to this point.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[basketcase]

You defended the ...

I said (as international law says) that people directly engaged in acts of violence lose civilian protections during those acts.

This is the kind of 'protesters' that are combatants. Of course you will try to find some way to blame Israel because they blew themselves up.

Powerful explosion kills 5 Palestinians in Gaza. Israel says the blast was caused by mishandled bomb

Palestinian health officials in the Gaza Strip say at least five people have been killed and 20 others wounded in an explosion next to the separation fence along the Israeli frontier with Gaza.

apnews.com

And none of this will distract from the fact that you openly and repeatedly reject international law and the opinions of the rights groups you pretend to support when you keep claiming that Jews in West Bank aren't civilians because some other Jews may be terrorist and "you can't tell them apart".

And pathetically you're left whining that I dare say that designated terrorist entities are terrorists when they shoot drivers, stab pedestrians, or gun down people at a car wash.

 

[Frankfooter]

I said (as international law says) that people directly engaged in acts of violence lose civilian protections during those acts.

This is the kind of 'protesters' that are combatants. Of course you will try to find some way to blame Israel because they blew themselves up.

Typical disinformation post where you quote an article that says nothing of what you claim. The article said:
The cause of the blast was not immediately known.

But in typical fashion you immediately blame Palestinians and call them violent.

Rights groups?

 

[basketcase]

Typical disinformation post where you quote an article that says nothing of what you claim. The article said:
The cause of the blast was not immediately known.

But in typical fashion you immediately blame Palestinians and call them violent.

Rights groups?

I love it when you double down on anti-semitism by posting the opinion of someone who says the Jewish lobby has "subjugated" America.

But nice to see that in addition to argueing against international law and your own rights groups to justify attacks on Jewish civilians, you push disgusting antisemitic tropes.

 

[Frankfooter]

I love it when you double down on anti-semitism by posting the opinion of someone who says the Jewish lobby has "subjugated" America.

But nice to see that in addition to argueing against international law and your own rights groups to justify attacks on Jewish civilians, you push disgusting antisemitic tropes.

You're really getting sad, basketcase.
You pretend to back international then turn around and call the UN 'antisemitic'.

It must have been like this for the supporters of Botha as South Africa became a pariah state.
You keep sound more and more rabid and crazy.

You defend a country yet you can't even say where its borders lie.
You can't say if its occupying Palestine or if its all Israel.
You claim to support international but then turn around and call the UN 'antisemitic'.
You try to quote single lines from Amnesty, HRW or the IHRC but have to work so hard to ignore every single other line they post.

25% of US Jews say Israel is apartheid.
60% of Canadians.
45% of those living under Israeli rule say Israel is apartheid.

Amnesty, HRW, B'tselem, Yesh Din and the UN all say Israel is apartheid.

You know who you really sound like now?
Botha.

Apartheid Foes Trying to Incite S. African Violence, Botha Claims

President Pieter W.

www.latimes.com

 

[basketcase]

You're really getting sad, basketcase.
You pretend to back international then turn around and call the UN 'antisemitic'.
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Yes, I do get sad that so called rights groups (run by a bunch of dictators) hire an overt anti-Semite to 'investigate' the only majority Jewish country. But you have repeatedly stated you agree with her anti-Semitic statement about Jews controlling US/Canadian policy so it's no surprise you like her.

All this thread shows is how obsessive and racist your hate campaign is. Lets see how you're doing on the checklist.

• Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion. You keep saying that being Jewish in the West Bank makes civilians legitimate target because some other Jews may be terrorist.
• Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective — such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions. You, like UN lady, keep pushing the idea Jews control the media and governments.
• Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews. You keep blaming Israel because other countries like Syria and Lebanon oppress generations born in their countries and try to make conspiracies about Kushner.
• Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust). You're been okay with Abbas' speech of Holocaust denial
• Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust. You (at least in this handle) haven't delved here
• Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations. You keep justifying attacks on non-Israeli Jews as long as the attacker makes some kind of oblique comment about Israel
• Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor. You keep pretending to accept the idea of Palestinian self-determination but reject that for the 8 million or so Jews living in Israel
• Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation. This is an endless technique of your, evident everywhere (showing your contempt for the abilities or desires of Arabs along the way).
• Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis. (you might actually be okay on this one)
• Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis. Yep, you do it often enough
• Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel. Again, you keep supporting attacks, protests, and vandalism of Jews and Jewish owned businesses by anti-Israeli people.

 

[Frankfooter]

• Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews. You keep blaming Israel because other countries like Syria and Lebanon oppress generations born in their countries and try to make conspiracies about Kushner.
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• Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel. Again, you keep supporting attacks, protests, and vandalism of Jews and Jewish owned businesses by anti-Israeli people.

You keep saying criticism of Israeli government policy, like apartheid, is antisemitic.
That is an antisemitic trope according to your list.

You keep trying to hold Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the state of Israel.
I keep trying to tell you there are multiple Jewish groups here, in the US and in Israel who disagree with apartheid.
You keep pushing antisemitic tropes.

 

[basketcase]

You keep saying criticism of Israeli government policy, like apartheid, is antisemitic.
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I've never said that. I've said you are antisemitic and that HRC clown woman is antisemitic. Canada's definition of antisemitism even says criticism of Israel isn't antisemitic.

You on the other hand show almost all of the characteristics of antisemitism and have managed to check off two more in recent weeks. You never used to openly admit you think driving while Jewish makes people valid targets and your acceptance of Abbas' Holocaust denial has helped you get closer to a perfect score.


And I know it won't get through to you but the fact that many Jews criticize aspects of Israel is exactly why it is antisemitic to attack, vandalize, or protest Jewish owned businesses, or schools because you don't like Israel.

• Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

 

[Frankfooter]

I've never said that. I've said you are antisemitic and that HRC clown woman is antisemitic. Canada's definition of antisemitism even says criticism of Israel isn't antisemitic.

You on the other hand show almost all of the characteristics of antisemitism and have managed to check off two more in recent weeks. You never used to openly admit you think driving while Jewish makes people valid targets and your acceptance of Abbas' Holocaust denial has helped you get closer to a perfect score.


And I know it won't get through to you but the fact that many Jews criticize aspects of Israel is exactly why it is antisemitic to attack, vandalize, or protest Jewish owned businesses, or schools because you don't like Israel.

• Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

I criticize Israeli policy and specifically post from Jewish organizations that are against apartheid, like B'tselem, Breaking the Silence, IJVCanada and others.

You then commit an antisemitic trope by claiming that is an attack on the Jewish people, which makes you the one pushing tropes here.
Not me.

25% of US Jews are against apartheid. I support them.
49% of those living under Israeli rule call say Israel is apartheid. I support them.
Amnesty says Israel is apartheid. I support them.
HRW, B'tselem, the UN all say Israel is apartheid. I support them.

Stop pushing antisemitic tropes and stop pushing apartheid.
Its racist and hateful.

 

[basketcase]

I criticize Israeli policy ...

You have repeatedly comment about Israel's 75 year occupation. makes it pretty clear your problem is Israel existing.

And yes, those threads where you justified vandalizing a Jewish owned restaurant in London, protesting a Jewish owned business north of Toronto, and a Jewish school in England were anti-semitism (just like the way you keep trying to justify killing of Jewish civilians in the West Bank even after seeing what your own rights groups and international law say)

 

[Frankfooter]

You have repeatedly comment about Israel's 75 year occupation. makes it pretty clear your problem is Israel existing.

No, I have a problem with illegal occupations.
Like Ukraine and Palestine.

Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory illegal: UN rights commission

Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory is unlawful under international law due to its permanence and the Israeli government’s de facto annexation policies, a UN-appointed Commission of Inquiry said in its first report, published on Thursday.

news.un.org

You want me to cheer for illegal occupations?
You want people to support war crimes?

And yes, those threads where you justified vandalizing a Jewish owned restaurant in London, protesting a Jewish owned business north of Toronto, and a Jewish school in England were anti-semitism (just like the way you keep trying to justify killing of Jewish civilians in the West Bank even after seeing what your own rights groups and international law say)

The thread where you said spray painting 'Free Palestine' is antisemitic?
That's a trope, buddy.

 

[basketcase]

No, I have a problem with illegal occupations.
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Unlike you, only extremists consider all of Israel an occupation.

And I notice you never post a single word to say about the illegal occupation of Northern Cyprus and swathes of Syria by Turkey or Morocco in Western Sahara.

We both know you only see the Isareli-Palestinian conflict as an excuse to whine about Jews.

 

[Frankfooter]

Unlike you, only extremists consider all of Israel an occupation.

Now you're calling the UN 'extremists'?
Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory illegal: UN rights commission

UN chief tells Israel to halt illegal settlements in Palestine

Antonio Guterres says construction of illegal Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory is driving violence.

www.aljazeera.com

Go ahead and draw us a map of what you think is Israel and Palestine.
Tell us how much you think is occupied and what isn't.

Go ahead.
If you can.

 

[basketcase]

Now you're calling the UN 'extremists'?
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When that commission is run by dictators and hire people who say Jews have subjugated America, the shoe sure seems to fit.
But why is it you suddenly ignore the UN when they endorse Two States and criticize Palestinian attacks on Jewish civilians?

It's funny watching your posts because in your desperation to pretend you have a moral compass, you have repeatedly exposed yourself as a supporter of hatred and terrorism.

 

[basketcase]

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Tell us how much you think is occupied and what isn't.
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The Green line according to the UN. That said, the UN believes in a negotiated peace deal and says the final borders can only be determined between the two sides.

But thanks for once again admitting that you think Israel in it's entirety is Palestinian land. Combine that with your repeated claims that Jews shouldn't be allowed in occupied lands and if they are, they are valid targets, it makes it pretty clear that your version of equal rights is like the right's version of free speech; you think it should only be applied to your side.

 

[Frankfooter]

When that commission is run by dictators and hire people who say Jews have subjugated America, the shoe sure seems to fit.
But why is it you suddenly ignore the UN when they endorse Two States and criticize Palestinian attacks on Jewish civilians?

It's funny watching your posts because in your desperation to pretend you have a moral compass, you have repeatedly exposed yourself as a supporter of hatred and terrorism.

You sound a little paranoid, basketcase.
Now you think the entire world is out to get you.

And yes, the 80 year olds are still stuck on the two state solution.
Including Abbas, who nobody likes except you.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1704963813211042003

 

[basketcase]

You sound a little paranoid, basketcase.
Now you think the entire world is out to get you.
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No, just worried about people like you pretending to support human rights while promoting elitist and racist views of others and endorsing violence against people because of their religion.


Speaking of elitism, just another case where you refuse to listen to what Palestinians say and refuse to condemn them when they say vile things. Abbas once again pushed claims that Jews caused the Holocaust and once again is inciting anti-Jewish hatred by claiming Jews are tunnelling under al Aqsa in an effort to destroy it.

 

[toguy5252]

No, just worried about people like you pretending to support human rights while promoting elitist and racist views of others and endorsing violence against people because of their religion.


Speaking of elitism, just another case where you refuse to listen to what Palestinians say and refuse to condemn them when they say vile things. Abbas once again pushed claims that Jews caused the Holocaust and once again is inciting anti-Jewish hatred by claiming Jews are tunnelling under al Aqsa in an effort to destroy it.

I gave up on these threads a long time ago. You may as well bang your head against a wall.

The Palestinians have decided they cannot push the Joe's onto the sea militarily so they have changed tactics. It is now pushing for a one state solution which would result in achieving their ends demographically which they could not do militarily.

There will NEVER be a one state solution so their leadership will keep any kind of sovereignty out of reach and the status quo will maintain. Sad.