"Israel, Similar to Apartheid": Ekos Canada Poll

[Frankfooter]

Olmert's offer was fair according to what the UN, the Quartet, and the Arab League have said. Sadly Abbas doesn't want to talk peace and Hamas at best will offer a temporary truce for a peace deal.

Abbas holds onto the past as the Palestinian future slips away

His controversial remarks have damaged the image of Palestinians on the world stage and hindered potential peace efforts

blogs.timesofisrael.com

Olmert wouldn't give Abbas a map stating what he was offering.
There was no deal and no state.

But I'm curious, are you saying you would support using Olmert's map as the basis of a two state solution?

 

[Frankfooter]

I don't care what Iran thinks, it's accepted in my country.

I love how you need to lie about it though since to quote it " However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic. "


BTW. Your boy Abbas continued with his incitement at the UN today with the trope that Jews are still trying to destroy Al Aqsa.

A trope?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1703406885746229459

 

[shack]

No, you have never replied.

You are so very wrong. I 100% replied.
How about this.

If I show you my reply you will not post anything on the board for a week.

If I cannot show you my reply, I will not post for a week.

The problem is that once I prove you wrong and produce my reply, you will renege on the bet because that's the type of guy you are i.e. disingenuous and untrustworthy. You will try to use semantics to weasel out of it. You'll use your typical sleazy tactics.

 

[Frankfooter]

You are so very wrong. I 100% replied.
How about this.

If I show you my reply you will not post anything on the board for a week.

If I cannot show you my reply, I will not post for a week.

The problem is that once I prove you wrong and produce my reply, you will renege on the bet because that's the type of guy you are i.e. disingenuous and untrustworthy. You will try to use semantics to weasel out of it. You'll use your typical sleazy tactics.

I won't make bets with someone who lies as often as you do on this board, shack.

The closest you came to a reply was stating its impossible to make a map of Israel as it exists now or a possible two state solution and then demanding I do so.
I gave you a clear answer, use the borders now just end apartheid and give all those living inside those borders equal rights, including the right to vote.

You refused to comment on that solution and also refused to even state where you think the borders of Israel lie right now. Like all supporters of Israel you won't admit Palestine is occupied or should exist despite claiming you support a two state solution and also won't admit that the apartheid one state solution is already in place. That leaves you stuck, if you state you think the border of Israel includes the OToP then its the one state apartheid solution in action, but you also can't admit that the settlements are illegal and you have also stated on this board that you don't think Israel should ever give any land they've taken by force back. Regardless of it making the two state solution possible. Regardless of international and most certainly regardless of your claim you support the two state solution.

Which leaves you as another MAGA like racial supremacist, where you think Jewish supremacy trumps all rights of Palestinian native to the land. That leaves you backing the one state apartheid solution, like basketcase and then yelling antisemite to anyone who dare talk about basic human rights.

The past is the past and it's been so long it is END OF STORY. No right of return or land claims for the Arabs.

'No land claims' means no two state solution.
Which leaves you as lying about claiming to support peace.
You support apartheid.

I can't read their minds. Asking us what other countries will agree to is total speculation.

Why don't you show us a map of the land you think the state of Israel is entitled to.

Guaranteed that you won't give a direct answer even though there is zero speculation as to what your own personal opinion is.

This will be the first time you won't give us your opinion because you don't think that Israel should exist at all but are too afraid to actually say so.

 

[Klatuu]

The people who displaced all of these Palestinians are civilians, according to grandpa

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705096494338986359

 

[shack]

I won't make bets with someone who lies as often as you do on this board, shack.
You support apartheid.

Hardly surprising coming from the biggest liar on the board. You are the pot calling the kettle black.
You lie every time you are losing a debate. BTW, I don't lie on the board. What for? It's anonymous.

And we were talking about whether I responded to a post of yours. That, in and of itself, is not political yet you manage to do your normal political, anti-Semitic, apartheid diatribe/verbal diarrhea. Why do you have so much hate.

I predicted what would happen. Potfooter has been exposed again for his lack of morality.

 

[shack]

No, you have never replied.

And then you quote my reply:


shack said:
I can't read their minds. Asking us what other countries will agree to is total speculation.

Why don't you show us a map of the land you think the state of Israel is entitled to.

Guaranteed that you won't give a direct answer even though there is zero speculation as to what your own personal opinion is.

This will be the first time you won't give us your opinion because you don't think that Israel should exist at all but are too afraid to actually say so.

Do you realize how stupid your argument is?

It may not be the reply you were looking for or the type of reply but it is undeniably a reply. I responded back to you directly about your query. I did not turtle and totally ignore your post. I replied.

Let me help you.

From the Oxford Dictionary:

REPLY:

verb

"say something in response to something someone has said"

Go take it up with Oxford. Once you see that you're losing that debate, you'll call them liars and pro-apartheid.

I've clearly made my point, but I know that you always, always, always need to get in the last word. Unfortunately, it does mean that you are correct. It just means you can't accept losing. That's some serious character flaw.

Instead, you will just spew your typical garbage and use your usual political talking points, but that has nothing to do with what "reply" means. I replied and you quoted my reply.

I'll wait for your apology/admission that you were wrong. C'mon, be a mensch Potfooter. Hahahahahahaha.

 

[Klatuu]

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And then you quote my reply:


shack said:
I can't read their minds. Asking us what other countries will agree to is total speculation.

Why don't you show us a map of the land you think the state of Israel is entitled to.

Guaranteed that you won't give a direct answer even though there is zero speculation as to what your own personal opinion is.

This will be the first time you won't give us your opinion because you don't think that Israel should exist at all but are too afraid to actually say so.

Do you realize how stupid your argument is?

It may not be the reply you were looking for or the type of reply but it is undeniably a reply. I responded back to you directly about your query. I did not turtle and totally ignore your post. I replied.

Let me help you.

From the Oxford Dictionary:

REPLY:

verb

"say something in response to something someone has said"

Go take it up with Oxford. Once you see that you're losing that debate, you'll call them liars and pro-apartheid.

I've clearly made my point, but I know that you always, always, always need to get in the last word. Unfortunately, it does mean that you are correct. It just means you can't accept losing. That's some serious character flaw.

Instead, you will just spew your typical garbage and use your usual political talking points, but that has nothing to do with what "reply" means. I replied and you quoted my reply.

I'll wait for your apology/admission that you were wrong. C'mon, be a mensch Potfooter. Hahahahahahaha.

Sad Shack has already answered. His reputation as an anti Palestinian racist is well earned and documented.

There would be no pali state regardless of who'd won.

 

[shack]

Shack has already answered.

Thanks for agreeing with me "little buddy". Clearly I replied to his post.

 

[Klatuu]

Thanks for agreeing with me "little buddy". Clearly I replied to his post.

Oh I’m not agreeing with you, you Shack of Sit. Actually that was a reply to another post in the past. Sorry to burst your bubble. You just can’t be honest about it and say what your position was. You are just an empty headed anti Palestinian racist.

Are you going to declare victory and run away soon? That’s your usual strategy when you get cornered.

 

[Klatuu]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705241447635522034

 

[shack]

Oh I’m not agreeing with you, you Shack of Sit. Actually that was a reply to another post in the past. Sorry to burst your bubble. You just can’t be honest about it and say what your position was. You are just an empty headed anti Palestinian racist.

Are you going to declare victory and run away soon? That’s your usual strategy when you get cornered.

Your greatest ability is hurling insults. Not having honest debates.

Once I've made my point why rehash it when you guys keep repeating the same lies. Listen closely little buddy:

 

[Frankfooter]

Hardly surprising coming from the biggest liar on the board. You are the pot calling the kettle black.
You lie every time you are losing a debate. BTW, I don't lie on the board. What for? It's anonymous.

And we were talking about whether I responded to a post of yours. That, in and of itself, is not political yet you manage to do your normal political, anti-Semitic, apartheid diatribe/verbal diarrhea. Why do you have so much hate.

I predicted what would happen. Potfooter has been exposed again for his lack of morality.

Shack.
Prove I lied or retract your statement.
If you're not acting like a troll, prove it.

 

[Frankfooter]

And then you quote my reply:


shack said:
I can't read their minds. Asking us what other countries will agree to is total speculation.

Why don't you show us a map of the land you think the state of Israel is entitled to.

Guaranteed that you won't give a direct answer even though there is zero speculation as to what your own personal opinion is.

This will be the first time you won't give us your opinion because you don't think that Israel should exist at all but are too afraid to actually say so.

Do you realize how stupid your argument is?

It may not be the reply you were looking for or the type of reply but it is undeniably a reply. I responded back to you directly about your query. I did not turtle and totally ignore your post. I replied.

Let me help you.

From the Oxford Dictionary:

REPLY:

verb

"say something in response to something someone has said"

Go take it up with Oxford. Once you see that you're losing that debate, you'll call them liars and pro-apartheid.

I've clearly made my point, but I know that you always, always, always need to get in the last word. Unfortunately, it does mean that you are correct. It just means you can't accept losing. That's some serious character flaw.

Instead, you will just spew your typical garbage and use your usual political talking points, but that has nothing to do with what "reply" means. I replied and you quoted my reply.

I'll wait for your apology/admission that you were wrong. C'mon, be a mensch Potfooter. Hahahahahahaha.

Shack, you didn't answer.
You challenged me to give you a direct answer. I gave you a direct answer.

You did not, you replied with a non-answer.

I can't read their minds. Asking us what other countries will agree to is total speculation.

This was in response to me asking you to provide a map of Israel and a map of what you think the two state solution could be.
Not only are you totally unable to even define the borders of the country you defend here, you are unable to even suggest a proposal for the only solution you back, the two state solution.
Instead you gave a non answer response.

I did what you requested, then you called me a liar.
You refused to answer directly and then called me a liar for saying you didn't answer directly.

Why can't you even tell us where the borders of Israel lie?

No wonder you and Israel get this kind of response from the world.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705305632771830161

 

[Frankfooter]

Your greatest ability is hurling insults. Not having honest debates.

Once I've made my point why rehash it when you guys keep repeating the same lies. Listen closely little buddy:

Netanyahu just did what you refused, he defined what he thinks the border of Israel is at the UN.
According to him and you, there is no state of Palestine.
Which leaves only apartheid Israel.

There was a bigger crowd and more Jewish support outside on the street than there was at the UN.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1705358709432496435

 

[shack]

Shack.
Prove I lied or retract your statement.
If you're not acting like a troll, prove it.

I don't have to. I've done it on previous occasions and attempted (unsuccessfully) to sleaze your way out of it. You have no moral ethics.

As to this topic people can read and judge for themselves.

I proved you didn't know what you were talking about earlier in this thread. I made a very fair open and honest challenge and you chicken-shitted out of it the only way a liar can and that's by calling others a liar. Maybe you went to Trump University and learned how to major in lying.

I'll wait for your apology.

 

[Frankfooter]

I don't have to. I've done it on previous occasions and attempted (unsuccessfully) to sleaze your way out of it. You have no moral ethics.

As to this topic people can read and judge for themselves.

I proved you didn't know what you were talking about earlier in this thread. I made a very fair open and honest challenge and you chicken-shitted out of it the only way a liar can and that's by calling others a liar. Maybe you went to Trump University and learned how to major in lying.

I'll wait for your apology.

Same old, shack.
You come on with veiled threats about 'watching' people of my 'ilk', make loud and vague accusations and then you run away for another 6 months after your tactics are exposed.

So sure, you don't have to prove anything you say.
You can act like a troll if you like.
Just expect to be treated like a racist, apartheid loving troll.

And let me show you what good, moral Jews are doing.
These people I support.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1704256238341537803

 

[basketcase]

I don't care what a settler colonial apartheid supporter like you thinks of BDS.
...

Because you have zero interest in any peace plan that lets Israel and the Jewish population exist in any sense.

And since you know you can't say that too directly, you resort to idiotic name calling to defend your immoral, pro-violence, racist world view.

 

[basketcase]

Olmert wouldn't give Abbas a map stating what he was offering.
There was no deal and no state.

But I'm curious, are you saying you would support using Olmert's map as the basis of a two state solution?

What pure bullshit. Abbas was shown a detailed map. And more importantly, he could have easily chose to engage, negotiating what in Olmert's offer he felt reasonable and what he would want changed. Instead he walked away from the offer, simply because he profits more from the status quo than he would from a Palestinian state.

Of course you don't even want to discuss the details of the offer because you simply reject the concept of peace and would rather violence continue, as long as you can find a way to blame Jews for it.

 

[Frankfooter]

Because you have zero interest in any peace plan that lets Israel and the Jewish population exist in any sense.

And since you know you can't say that too directly, you resort to idiotic name calling to defend your immoral, pro-violence, racist world view.

Ending apartheid and letting both peoples live with full human rights, including the vote, is the only peace plan left now.
But of course the racists think that will lead to genocide because of their hatred of one people.