No I repeat that unreal is a sovereign state which like every other state has a right to define itself. Just the the Palestinians would have had they accepted that reality 60 years ago. That will not change in the next 60 years so they can chase a dream which is veing fed to them by their leaders or open their eyes and deal with reality. The Palestinians have suffered because people like you keep feeding that dream.
"Israel, Similar to Apartheid": Ekos Canada Poll
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Um. It was created as such after the Holocaust. That's its purpose. And considering it's contributions to science and medicine. Its greening of the desert, It can stay that way imo.
The Palestinians are becoming less relevant as time passes. Once Saudi Arabia signs new trade treaties the other Muslim states will start to follow. And it will be over. The aid will dry up. And the residents will splinter off into various nations.
The one state apartheid solution is already here.
There is no state of Palestine and zero chance of one happening.
So there is only apartheid Israel.
Apartheid
The Israeli regime enacts in all the territory it controls (Israeli sovereign territory, East Jerusalem, the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip) an apartheid regime. One organizing principle lies at the base of a wide array of Israeli policies: advancing and perpetuating the supremacy of one group –...
There are 5 million Palestinian refugees already living in the countries bordering Israel.
We will likely never agree on the historical record so continued debate is really pointless.
Having said that 2 points.
There are many legitimate issues involving Isreal including borders, the settlements etc. But there is a difference between taking issuevwith certain policies of Isreal and the right of Isreal to exist. When the starting point of any discussion is the right if Isreal to exist or it legitimacy there is really not a lot to discuss.
Whether or not you accept the right of Isreal to exist and/or its legitimacy the fact is that it does exist and will continue to and there will never be a one state solution.
The pathetic bleating of a frustrated but dyed in wool anti Palestinian racist
Its not difficult. Nazis did Holocaust. Israel created to prevent it from happening again. Muslims tried to kill the Jews, got there asses handed to them repeatedly. Palestinians became pawns to appease street Muslims in Dictatorships as a distraction. USA continued to gain influence in the region. Both for oil and to appease the evangelicals in the USA, as well as the Jews there. Israel is a client state of the USA. So is Saudi Arabia to a degree.
Now we have a situation where the House of Saud wants to move the nation off oil gradually. And to do this, they need to slowly become more peaceful and secular. For better acceptance to the World economy. With them other nations in the region will follow suit.
And the Palestinians are now being left behind as a liability and not an asset. By the other Muslims in the region.
Given time Israel will continue to expand, the Palestinians will disporia to other nations, and any opposition will be weak and ineffective.
Seriously after 70+ years playing the victim card people really don't care. Numerous chances at peace and prosperity squandered in the name of a medieval religious cult created by an illiterate warlord. Do you really think they will win this?
Palestinians suffer because of a terrorist leadership that kills any peaceful opposition within its own ranks. They take aid to make missiles as opposed to creating prosperity. Why hegotiate eith soneone who vows to kill you?
Bigots. They just love to double down on stupid.
They don't care. No western govt cares. China Russia, India, no African Nation, no South or Central American nation, so Asian nation. They pretty much have Syria, Iran, and a few factions within a few other non players. Thats it. And mostly lip service coupled with enough humanitarian aid to feed them.Who says people don't care? You? Lol. And yeah sure bro. Israelis will wake up one day to suddenly find that a 75 year old raging conflict has abruptly ended.
But thanks for atleast admitting that Israel aims to expand and ethnically cleanse Palestinians.
Next peace deal with Saudis is already being brokered. And realistically there is no raging conflict, is their? Just occasional flare ups from a frustrated population of indoctrinated souls who haven't figured out they already lost.
The Palestinians had the chance numerous times at peace and prosperity. And turned it down. So the world and Irael is moving on now. We have better things to do.
The only thing that will happen what I said. The world moving on. No ones cares enough with enough power to do anything about it.
You are only stating the obvious that Israel is far more competent then the Palestinians leadership. And yes that includes now cutting off their weapon making and smuggling operations. So sad. Oh well.
I've picked my side. Israel has proven to be a net positive contributer to the world. The Palestinians a net drain and continueing negative to it. I'm sure the little people want to be but ao long as the terrorists run the show that's what the world sees.
What conflict? Rock throwing? A few attempted homemade missile strikes? This is nothing more than a gradual mirror of what happened to the Tamil Tigers. You think some college students ranting will change USA policy and funding? EU support?And you'd be proven sorely wrong. Whatever makes you think the world will just move on and the war will just fizzle out. Its the dumbest take I have heard regarding a very serious conflict.
Keep living in that delusion.....
Maybe not in my lifetime. But its happening. Israel will continue its gradual expansion to support its growing population and the world wll let it happen. The Palestinians will gradually end up in other nations, with a few assimilated who are peaceful.
The evangelicals will never allow the holy land to be Muslim again. And the EU is fully prepared to back Israel over fanatics.
Do you think all Palestinians are united? Lol. Fine, then lets have Hamas have an election. See what happens.
There isn't much of a war. And what there is the winner remains clear, hence your whining.And you'd be proven sorely wrong. Whatever makes you think the world will just move on and the war will just fizzle out. Its the dumbest take I have heard regarding a very serious conflict.
