The outrage to this topic also comes up like clockwork every year. The reality is that trolls, bots and even real people can, will and have the right to complain and say stupid shit all the time. We don't need to take the bait like clockwork every year.
People say stop the air show
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Its stupidly loud and annoying but so are harley's.
At least its only for a few hours once a year.
But they could move it somewhere else.
At least its only for a few hours once a year.
But they could move it somewhere else.
In recent years, I think Afghan and/or Syrian refugees complained about warplanes flying over their heads. Brings back bad memories for them.
Where are they going to move the show? It is already over the lake and that's mainly for safety reasons. Moving the "stage" further South towards the lake would make it much harder to see the planes. Moving it further North towards land will make things louder and likely not feasible with so many tall buildings. They can't move it anywhere near Pearson because of commercial planes.
I live near Pearson and I get an air show everytime the weather changes. Take offs and landings every 90 seconds. Occasionally, I'll get a landing at 2am too.
There have been 9 deadly accidents in 75 years at the air show. I don't know if any civilians were hurt or killed in them. I'm not sure about this, but there's likely been more incidents at Pearson with commercial planes in the last 75 years vs the airshow. The so-called dangerous stunts are actually not as they seem. When you look at a group of planes from the shore aka front they seem to cross paths close together. But when you view the planes from the lake near the West side of the "stage" (I've seen it multiple times) you can see that the jets are not actually in-line. So the whole show has a wide safety margin even though it looks like there is none. The planes are certainly close together while in a formation though.
You'll also notice that when planes are doing maneouvers where they might stall, it's done over the water as an additional safety measure. Given that the show has been going on for 75 years, I think the pilots know how to be as safe as possible and have contingency plans.
Also keep in mind that aeroobatic teams of The Blue Angels and Snowbirds are part of the military and are extreme in their training exercises and discipline. This obviously doesn't apply with the single plane demonstrations, but I am sure they are just as disciplined.
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Ban Air Shows?
I've had just about enough of this. Ban hot dogs (nitrates), CocaCola, (sugar), ice cream (too much fat), chocolate milk in school lunches (sugar and fat). Ban air shows?
Air shows began in the 1920s with barn storming pilots who survived WW I doing stunt flying and selling plane rides at county fairs to eke out a living. Air shows grew into air races to celebrate technological progress and to support aircraft designs and engines that were underfunded during the Depression.
The Supermarine Spitfire seaplane was a fighter plane in disguise with pontoons to mask its real purpose. The potential Axis powers raced their own designs. The Spitfire won those races and we won the war.
Once as a child on a long ago Labor Day we were looking back from a departing Toronto Island ferry as the great buildings of downtown rose on the horizon.
My father once passed through the Strait of Gibraltar in a convoy on a mission to Malta where the majority of the ships were sunk by the Nazis. The soldiers and sailors who survived the trip put their feet on the Island ground of Malta - one of the most heavily bomb- damaged places on earth at that time.
My dad's comment at the Toronto skyline was, "How long it takes to build things and how quickly it can all be destroyed. He told us about Malta on that ferry ride. He left out a lot of it.
Every Labor Day I hear the sound of those airplanes overhead. I am thankful that those are our planes and our pilots. I like that noise.
I've had just about enough of this. Ban hot dogs (nitrates), CocaCola, (sugar), ice cream (too much fat), chocolate milk in school lunches (sugar and fat). Ban air shows?
Air shows began in the 1920s with barn storming pilots who survived WW I doing stunt flying and selling plane rides at county fairs to eke out a living. Air shows grew into air races to celebrate technological progress and to support aircraft designs and engines that were underfunded during the Depression.
The Supermarine Spitfire seaplane was a fighter plane in disguise with pontoons to mask its real purpose. The potential Axis powers raced their own designs. The Spitfire won those races and we won the war.
Once as a child on a long ago Labor Day we were looking back from a departing Toronto Island ferry as the great buildings of downtown rose on the horizon.
My father once passed through the Strait of Gibraltar in a convoy on a mission to Malta where the majority of the ships were sunk by the Nazis. The soldiers and sailors who survived the trip put their feet on the Island ground of Malta - one of the most heavily bomb- damaged places on earth at that time.
My dad's comment at the Toronto skyline was, "How long it takes to build things and how quickly it can all be destroyed. He told us about Malta on that ferry ride. He left out a lot of it.
Every Labor Day I hear the sound of those airplanes overhead. I am thankful that those are our planes and our pilots. I like that noise.
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Neo-Marxists (not woke) have been very aggressive in getting items cancelled. Queen is the most popular rock band on Spotify, Neo-Marxists have cancelled the song Fat Bottom Girls from the bands Greatest Hits package.
I couldn't care less about the air show, live too far north. If it brings in more revenue to city, the local aviary will have to tolerate it for a day. The bigger picture is we must find alternate sources of energy, India is sending a satellite to the Sun, it wouldn't surprise me if they're the ones to crack the fusion riddle. The work must continue, for no other reason than to make bloodthirsty dictators poor.
Fuck the Neo-Marxists, I saw Rachel McAdams ride a bicycle on Dupont St, magnificent glutius maximus!
Remember folks there's a huge difference between woke and Neo-Marxism.
I couldn't care less about the air show, live too far north. If it brings in more revenue to city, the local aviary will have to tolerate it for a day. The bigger picture is we must find alternate sources of energy, India is sending a satellite to the Sun, it wouldn't surprise me if they're the ones to crack the fusion riddle. The work must continue, for no other reason than to make bloodthirsty dictators poor.
Fuck the Neo-Marxists, I saw Rachel McAdams ride a bicycle on Dupont St, magnificent glutius maximus!
Remember folks there's a huge difference between woke and Neo-Marxism.
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Is it 9 deadly accidents at this air show or around the world. I just made a quick count of air show accidents in the 21st. century and there were approx. 144 incidents. I do not know how many deaths in these incidents there were. One is too many for no good reason.
I live DT and I can hear the Jets but I know it's only for a few days, they put on a good show so I don't mind. What I hate is idiots from out of town driving around DT with their loud music and constant honking on Saturday nights. During the lockdowns, it was so peaceful.
My dad flew a Halifax and got the DFC from King George V1. His older brother who he followed into the war never got the DFC (and continued flying for Texaco after the war)and felt he
deserved it more.
We're talking about the Toronto airshow, in which there have been 9 accidents in 75 years. Your link doesn't list Toronto because the last one that happened here was in 1995. Out of how many air shows did those 144 incidents happen?Is it 9 deadly accidents at this air show or around the world. I just made a quick count of air show accidents in the 21st. century and there were approx. 144 incidents. I do not know how many deaths in these incidents there were. One is too many for no good reason.
The one is too many argument does not make any sense to me. There are countless accidents of all kinds every year. As with aviation, every accident actually makes the industry safer because we gain a greater understanding of how people react to high G's, fatigue, etc.
Given that the CNE brings citizens and tourism into Toronto, moving it outside the city does not make sense. Never mind the negotiations that would have to take place to actually move it to another city.
I saw the Italian airforce show at Abbotsford years ago. 1986 or thereabouts. The most incredible performance ever. Planes flying towards each other at lamp post altitude and missing each other by feet. Not like here.
The fuel and airport fees would be quite expensive for those big bombers especailly since they would be coming from the US / overseas.
One of the perks of living downtown is that you are at the centre of all the events going on in the city: air shows, parades, nude bicycle rides, etc. If stuff like that upsets you then don’t live downtown.
