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Frankfooter

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Not if that action is climate litigation against governments, businesses and
adults.
True, they should just go after the oil&gas industry and their leaders.
Target their assets, income and pensions.

There is so much damage they must pay for.
 

Not getting younger

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Well yes and no... If we get to a point where we get too many natural disaster (as they currently increase a lot) it will change the game for insurance company. And we may need to reach a point where you will get a sum of money to actually move away.

Florida currently has 100k lawsuit from previous disasters... Thousands also in California. All these ongoing battles with insurer may change the game to a point of no rebuilt.
isn’t it funny how alarmist use insurance cost..Are we worried about the planet and environment or money?

and once again, it is inevitable. No matter how much twisting on a hook some want to do. It’s coming…

So if money is a concern. Why the F are we still developing and living in high risk areas…

Any alarmist have a reasonable answer for that?
 

Frankfooter

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isn’t it funny how alarmist use insurance cost..Are we worried about the planet and environment or money?

and once again, it is inevitable. No matter how much twisting on a hook some want to do. It’s coming…

So if money is a concern. Why the F are we still developing and living in high risk areas…

Any alarmist have a reasonable answer for that?
Rising insurance costs are just one of multiple effects.
Crop failure, forest fires, floods, extreme weather, drought...
You've got so many to choose from.
 

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Evolution is another hoax only low brain cell count people believe in that

Holy shit. I can understand people being sceptical about governments and pharmaceutical companies but you young earth creationists are something else.
 

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The MSM Has Memory-Holed Tonga’s Warming Effects On World Temps



On Jan. 15, 2022, the underwater Hunga Tonga–Hunga Ha’apai volcano in the Pacific exploded. The volcano triggered tsunamis in the South Pacific and sent a massive plume of water vapor into the stratosphere.

Over the past year, scientists have increased the estimates of how much water vapor went into the stratosphere. That water vapor, every scientist agrees, warms the planet. [emphasis, links added]



Originally, scientists estimated 50 million metric tons of water went into the atmosphere.

Now, revised estimates are at 150 million metric tons, which equates to 40 trillion gallons of water injected into the stratosphere.

Over the past year, dozens of scientists have produced papers warning that the summer of 2023 and possibly into the next decade would be abnormally hot.

Scientists suggest the global temperature could increase more than 1.5 degrees Celsius.


In fact, that is exactly what is happening. Up until the summer heat wave, news reports noted the expected increase in temperatures due to the volcano.

But as the heat wave began, as predicted, the volcano and its water vapor disappeared from coverage.

Now, in the progressive spirit of never letting a crisis go to waste, the American and European press corps have begun a full-court press on climate change.

Instead of the volcano, people, capitalism, and oil companies are to blame for the heat wave.


The government is rushing climate initiatives and new regulations to curtail climate change and regress our standard of living.

Weekly, press outlets from CNN to NPR run stories about extreme heat, man-made climate change, and troglodyte Republicans who do not care.

Regardless of one’s belief in man-made climate change, the proximate cause of the current heat wave is the 40 trillion gallons of extra water now floating around the stratosphere.

This is not in dispute by scientists, just the “follow the science” crowd in the press corps. …

Instead, at a time of increased rates of depression, despair, and suicide, the press corps has decided to scare the bejeezus out of people that we’ve reached a tipping point and the world is on the brink.

Eventually, the water vapor will rain itself out of the atmosphere. It will take seven to 10 years, according to a recent study.

In the meantime, scientists suspect we will see more rain and other weird, unknown events. These scientists do think the world is warming generally.

They also think the current El Nino weather pattern in the Pacific is contributing to heat. But, unlike press reports, the volcano plays an outsized role in what is happening.

By failing to tell the full story, the press has seeded a dishonest narrative about the current weather.

The press has spread fear and disinformation. It is because so much of the press does not actually respect the public. If they respected us, they would be honest with us.

By overhyping climate change and memory-holing the volcano, the press is ceding truth claims to others, including those with even more malicious intent.

Likewise, if the press is so willing to only give partial information now about this topic, how can anyone believe them on other topics?

The sad reality is that the press corps does not trust Americans to see stories the same way they do. Too much of the press has elevated narratives, which means facts and troubling implications must be left behind.

People are stupid, I often say, but they are smart enough to know when they are being played. Thus, we can understand why trust in the press is collapsing.



Read the full post at Patriot Post


The MSM Has Memory-Holed Tonga's Warming Effects On World Temps - Climate Change Dispatch
 

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This is the type of climate action you got when you voted in
leaders on the promise of zero net emission. No worries, our
deep water oil fields will be producing only 'low carbon' if not
'no carbon' oil.

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Equinor hires drill rig to keep looking for oil off Newfoundland's east coast
August 14, 2023

Norwegian energy giant Equinor has hired a drilling rig to look for more oil off the coast of Newfoundland.

Equinor says the Hercules semi-submersible will begin exploring next year in the Flemish Pass Basin, about 500 kilometres east of St. John's.

The company said in May it was pausing its plans to develop the Bay du Nord offshore oil project in the same area, casting a pall over the future of oil and gas in the province.

At the time, Equinor said it was still assessing plans to keep exploring for more oil in that region of the North Atlantic.

The company said today the drilling is part of its plans to "optimize" the Bay du Nord project and make it more financially feasible.

Newfoundland and Labrador's offshore oil regulator said earlier this year that about 979 million barrels of recoverable oil had been discovered in the Bay du Nord area.

 

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Fighting to assess downstream emissions from Bay du Nord

Bay du Nord is the first remote, deep-water oil and gas project in Canada, with reserves estimated between 300 million and one billion barrels of oil. The project, 500 kilometres off Newfoundland’s shores, would see a huge new complex of oilfields with drilling taking place at a depth of 1,200 metres, compared to other current offshore operations, which drill at 100 metres or less.

Federal Minister of Environment and Climate Change Steven Guilbeault approved the Bay du Nord project on April 6, 2022, just days after an alarming report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change warned that simply cutting emissions was no longer enough to curb the climate crisis and the United Nations chief called funding new fossil fuel projects “moral and economic madness.”

Minister Guilbeault insists Bay du Nord will be required to meet 137 conditions — including a condition that the project be net-zero on greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. This target, however, fails to account for the massive downstream emissions the project will generate. Downstream emissions are released when the oil & gas is burned.

Ecojustice, on behalf of Équiterre, Sierra Club Canada Foundation and Mi’gmawe’l Tplu’taqnn Inc, filed a lawsuit against Minister Guilbeault’s approval of the project in Federal Court on May 6, 2022. The groups continue to say that the project’s approval clashes with Canada’s international obligations and the urgent call to reduce global emissions as the reality of the climate emergency becomes more distressing with every severe weather event. On June 16, 2023, the court dismissed the case. The groups are exploring whether to appeal the decision.

Industry and government rhetoric around “clean oil” blatantly ignores the fact that the process of extracting oil only accounts for 10 per cent of the emissions from an oil project, with the other 90 per cent coming when the oil is burned. Recent estimates suggest that over its lifetime, Bay du Nord is projected to produce between 300 million to one billion barrels of oil, which could in turn generate about 400 million tonnes of carbon — that’s the equivalent of the emissions from 7-10 million cars per year.

The Atlantic waters off the east coast of Newfoundland and Labrador are one of the most important marine environments in the world and home to a large amount of ocean life from the endangered cod to humpback whales, corals and sponges. A Department of Fisheries and Oceans Science report on the Bay du Nord project identified numerous threats to ocean life, including the risk of an uncontrolled blowout. As the project is located 500 kilometres offshore, Equinor’s own forecasts predict that a blowout at the wellhead causing an uncontrolled release of oil into the sea would take 18-36 days to cap.

 

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Oh c’mon alarmist…..

You mean not one of you have even a half way decent reasonable answer to explain why we are still living and developing in high risk areas?

I’m pretty sure the wildlife you all are so alarmed about, has more brains than you ( us, our save the planet champions, alarmist and political elite) then . Because they at least will get the fuck out of dodge. Already are….But you?/them? Apparently not.

Curious that. Fire and brimstone, and yet…….
 
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Oh c’mon alarmist…..

You mean not one of you have even a half way decent reasonable answer to explain why we are still living and developing in high risk areas?
An alarmist real estate agent won't likely warn his/her client against
buying a waterfront property. I am sure there are alarmists among
Formula One drivers too. Likewise one can be an alarmist and still reside
in and develop real estates in high risk areas.

An alarmist in the position of Minister of Climate Change
will have to find some excuse beyond imagination to approve
oil drilling . Zero emission requirement for deep water oil
exploration and production is a brilliant example. If you observe
them closely alarmists are not telling us to cut back burning fossil fuel
anytime soon for real. The important thing to do is to be in agreement
with them that we are causing climate change and oil companies
are the ones that should be hold responsible.

You only have to confess you are a sinner and accept JC
as your personal saviour. And you can remain a sinner.


I’m pretty sure the wildlife you all are so alarmed about, has more brains than you ( us, our save the planet champions and political elite). Because they at least will get the fuck out of dodge. Already are….But you?/them? Apparently not.

Curious that. Fire and brimstone, and yet…….
 
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How Apropos.

One of my morning routines on days off is to read news. And not from one source, not from just Left or Right. Has probably escaped a few how it is, I seem to be able to link so much from all points of the spectrum…….where-as many just seem to be able to link those that suit their beliefs and narratives….

Came across this, just 15 min ago. While I feel he is too short sighted, doesn’t fully “ get it”… This guy at least deserves far more credit than the alarmist and political elite.

still no alarmist with even a half way decent answer to explain how animals, with pea sized brains….

Buy the houses, return the floodplain back to its natural setting, because the river is meant to expand — to flood over land,” he says.
Absolutey love what one lady said on Twitter
Why didn’t they think about this when they built Bedford place mall and then Superstore?
How could Government even allow this to happen? They also allow and approve infilling the basin, the ocean……

When you pave paradise to put up a parking lot this is what happens…….
yeah, about that…….

 
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How Apropos.

One of my morning routines on days off is to read news. And not from one source, not from just Left or Right. Has probably escaped a few how it is, I seem to be able to link so much from all points of the spectrum…….where-as many just seem to be able to link those that suit their beliefs and narratives….

Came across this, just 15 min ago. While I feel he is too short sighted, doesn’t fully “ get it”… This guy at least deserves far more credit than the alarmist and political elite.

still no alarmist with even a half way decent answer to explain how animals, with pea sized brains….



Absolutey love what one lady said on Twitter


yeah, about that…….

Typical science deniers.
Ignore the warnings and then try to force the government to pay for them ignoring the warnings.

I hope your morning routine doesn't involve orange juice, I'm sure you'll be writing letters to JT to do something about it.
 
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Typical Liberal diehard, who pretends to be superior and sits in his non existent, moral superior horse. Who sees what he wants to see.

I’ve never denied it Einstein. In fact fully “believe in it”…In fact am willing to call to spades, spades…unlike you…I’m open minded. And neither L or R…

And will even go further and say you’re the problem. You and your life style, along with 8billion other people.

“Bulldozing paradise for parking lots”.

Is your memory seriously that bad?
Obviously, it is.
 
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Frankfooter

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Oh c’mon alarmist…..

You mean not one of you have even a half way decent reasonable answer to explain why we are still living and developing in high risk areas?

I’m pretty sure the wildlife you all are so alarmed about, has more brains than you ( us, our save the planet champions, alarmist and political elite) then . Because they at least will get the fuck out of dodge. Already are….But you?/them? Apparently not.

Curious that. Fire and brimstone, and yet…….
Why?

Because the oil&gas industry buried the warnings, science deniers ignored the warnings and idiots who listen to them ignored the warnings.
Now you want the rest of us to pay for that idiocy.
 

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And.....what did this climate science say before records were kept? Enlighten us, please. Because there is a wealth of science showing various changes in climate over the eons. In fact, there's apparently a lake in Milton that is unique in the world to show how these changes have manifested.

But I am keen to see what you can produce that contradicts the plethora of modern day scientific study.
You're right there is. And it shows that temperature drives CO2, not the other way around. It also shows there were period of vast climate changes shifts of 4°C or more in a century.
 

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You're right there is. And it shows that temperature drives CO2, not the other way around. It also shows there were period of vast climate changes shifts of 4°C or more in a century.
Feel free to show us the links to this science.
 

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You're right there is. And it shows that temperature drives CO2, not the other way around. It also shows there were period of vast climate changes shifts of 4°C or more in a century.
this might explain some of silientkissers bed wetting
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