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Andrew Tate is arrested and his luxury villa in Romania is raided by police

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dirtyharry555

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But YOU have to try and somehow prove Tate is innocent and mistreated without knowing what the actual evidence against Tate is and before the trial has even taken place.
I'm not trying to prove guilt or innocence. That's up to the court. I'm merely disseminating information about the case.

Courts docs (i.e. primary sources), home surveillance video footage, phone cam footage, text messages, witnesses named in the case that have spoken out, and Tate's readiness to fill in details are all available without requiring your "reputable news sources", whatever those are. These are the same sources that accused JP of being a transphobic misogynist and Rogan as alt-right? lol

I don't think further evidence or a trial would have much impact on your biased view of this case. In the Depp/Heard court case, all the evidence was made available in real-time and you STILL managed to get it wrong (while most non-lawyers got it right). You live in a bubble where common sense isn't allowed.

You have a personal gripe against Depp because you wished it was your bed that Heard shat on. Likewise, you detest Tate because you wish that you were the multi-millionaire with a bunch of twenty-something females working for you.

You're just an old-fashioned starry-eyed hater and your credibility in these matters is virtually non-existent.

Back to fundamentals. Is it possible that someone as intelligent as Tate would commit egregious sex crimes while living in Romania in a house filled with women 24/7 with cameras all around it? Is it possible that he would brazenly shit where he eats in the internet age as a multimillionaire who can afford to live anywhere?

It's possible. Anything is possible. But is it likely? No.

Does at least one of his accusers appear to be an opportunist with a long history of sabotage? Yes.

That's all I'm saying. This is not nearly as complicated as people like you and squeezer think it is. Use your head.
 
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LOL.....almost all of my Muslim friends and acquaintances that I know are heavy drinkers. One in particular loves eating pork and it's a running joke in our circle about how he has to hide it from his parents and family.
I know a Muslim guy that told me God punished him for drinking alcohol. He was driving while intoxicated and came to a hill where the police were hiding at the other side of the hill. At high speed he went over the hill and smashed into the police car. They pulled him out and gave him a beating. He went to jail, then got his drivers license suspended. God did not punish him he ( and the police ) punished him for drinking alcohol.

I know a lot of Muslims and Jews that eat pork. I know a Jewish guy that use to wake up early so the he could knock on the door of his gentile friend to walk to school with him at 6:00 AM. The real reason was so that his family would invite him in for bacon and eggs.
I saw this guy was at a wedding eating shrimp and lobster like the ocean was drying up.
 

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squeezer, every Top G on the planet has a vested interest in ensuring due process in the prosecution of other Top Gs.

It is for that reason alone that other Top Gs follow the case at all.

You know, if you put your mind to it, one day you may become a Top G, too.

But remember, the first million is always the hardest.
How many Top Gs you reckon are on this board?
 

dirtyharry555

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He comes across as pretty fucking stupid, so yeah, it tracks.
lol predictable response.

Differentiate between people that you dislike because of their personality/persona versus their intellect.

But out of curiosity, on what measures are you superior to him that you consider him beneath you (i.e. stupid)?

IQ
Net Worth
Business/entrepreneurship
Physicality/strength/attractiveness
Vocabulary
Women/relationships
Competitiveness
Risk taking/aversion
Public speaking
Popularity
Life experience
 
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I know a lot of Muslims and Jews that eat pork. I know a Jewish guy that use to wake up early so the he could knock on the door of his gentile friend to walk to school with him at 6:00 AM. The real reason was so that his family would invite him in for bacon and eggs. I saw this guy was at a wedding eating shrimp and lobster like the ocean was drying up.
Nothing new, my buddy Perm considered himself a devout Hindu, yet he'd suck back all meat pizzas like they were becoming extinct. He also used profanity like a Brooklyn stevedore. His greeting to me in the morning was "eh fangula".

I though Mooj the Indian Salesman in 40 Year Old Virgin, was based on him.

 

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lol predictable response.

Differentiate between people that you dislike because of their personality/persona versus their intellect.

But out of curiosity, on what measures are you superior to him that you consider him beneath you (i.e. stupid)?

IQ
Net Worth
Business/entrepreneurship
Physicality/strength/attractiveness
Vocabulary
Women/relationships
Competitiveness
Risk taking/aversion
Public speaking
Popularity
Life experience
You left out,

charged and possibly going to jail vs being free
 
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mandrill

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I'm not trying to prove guilt or innocence. That's up to the court. I'm merely disseminating information about the case.

Courts docs (i.e. primary sources), home surveillance video footage, phone cam footage, text messages, witnesses named in the case that have spoken out, and Tate's readiness to fill in details are all available without requiring your "reputable news sources", whatever those are. These are the same sources that accused JP of being a transphobic misogynist and Rogan as alt-right? lol

I don't think further evidence or a trial would have much impact on your biased view of this case. In the Depp/Heard court case, all the evidence was made available in real-time and you STILL managed to get it wrong (while most non-lawyers got it right). You live in a bubble where common sense isn't allowed.

You have a personal gripe against Depp because you wished it was your bed that Heard shat on. Likewise, you detest Tate because you wish that you were the multi-millionaire with a bunch of twenty-something females working for you.

You're just an old-fashioned starry-eyed hater and your credibility in these matters is virtually non-existent.

Back to fundamentals. Is it possible that someone as intelligent as Tate would commit egregious sex crimes while living in Romania in a house filled with women 24/7 with cameras all around it? Is it possible that he would brazenly shit where he eats in the internet age as a multimillionaire who can afford to live anywhere?

It's possible. Anything is possible. But is it likely? No.

Does at least one of his accusers appear to be an opportunist with a long history of sabotage? Yes.

That's all I'm saying. This is not nearly as complicated as people like you and squeezer think it is. Use your head.
"Tate's readiness to fill in the details without requiring your "reputable news sources", whatever those are."

Do you actually think about the stuff you write?!... What you're saying is that no-one needs actual news media like The Times, The Guardian, the BBC or the Washington Post when the accused pimp and woman-beater who runs a grift site on the Net can simply tell you he's innocent. Right?

And you believe the accused violent pimp - without hearing any of the evidence - because all the media organs I mentioned are "woke". Doesn't that wreck your credibility without anyone even reading the rest of your silly hate-screed?

BTW I don't have a personal gripe against Depp. I just kept saying that he previously lost an identical trial in the UK against Heard and then chose to relitigate in the USA and did far better. I was skeptical about what Depp did, but didn't take time to listen to the US trial, so stopped arguing the point against people who were more invested therein than I.
 

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That's all I'm saying. This is not nearly as complicated as people like you and squeezer think it is. Use your head.
I dunno Dirty, you claim he is such an intelligent man but yet he admits his own crimes on the internet which I have already provided you clips but because I know you are probably still in the fog of sleep since it's early morning, I'm going to post some other very condemning evidence via links for you again.

Please have your morning coffee prior to viewing the links, black only, you don't need the sugar and cream, I hear top "G" with love handles isn't a cool look.

 

mandrill

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Back to fundamentals. Is it possible that someone as intelligent as Tate would commit egregious sex crimes while living in Romania in a house filled with women 24/7 with cameras all around it? Is it possible that he would brazenly shit where he eats in the internet age as a multimillionaire who can afford to live anywhere?

It's possible. Anything is possible. But is it likely? No.
Considering that Tate moved to the unlikely venue of Romania specifically because he believed that they wouldn't prosecute sex trafficking there, I think it's pretty likely. Yeah. And he also thought that he could intimidate and bribe the girls into retracting their testimony if he got arrested and could beat the charges that way.

It didn't work, but he's an egotistical, unsophisticated dude and likely didn't plan things through as thoroughly or intelligently as a sophisticated guy with legal training would.
Does at least one of his accusers appear to be an opportunist with a long history of sabotage? Yes.

That's all I'm saying. This is not nearly as complicated as people like you and squeezer think it is. Use your head.
According to the accused violent pimp, she does. I don't know that for a fact. Nor do I know if hers is the key evidence in the case or whether her testimony would be corroborated by other evidence. These are all things that happen at trial, Harry.

You have too much the man-love for Tate.
 

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You really think he's gonna be found guilty? Not a big Tate fan but it's clear they are having trouble even charging him and have holes in their case or he wouldn't have been released from prison and now also out from house arrest.
How is that clear?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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But none of those things are actually clear since those decisions wouldn't necessarily be made on the strength of the evidence
Sure they are clear.

I haven't followed the case super close but from what I understand it takes 2 judges to file charges in Romania, and one of the 2 judges felt Tate shouldnt be charged at all.

Secondly, the current residing judge clearly feels Tate is not a flight risk or he wouldn't have released him from house arrest. If the evidence was overwhelming the judge would have been reluctant to release him from house arrest because there would be a much greater chance of flight risk.

Last but not least, 2 of his camgirls have come out in defense of him.
Thats not exactly going to help the prosecutor's case
 

dirtyharry555

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Considering that Tate moved to the unlikely venue of Romania specifically because he believed that they wouldn't prosecute sex trafficking there, I think it's pretty likely. Yeah. And he also thought that he could intimidate and bribe the girls into retracting their testimony if he got arrested and could beat the charges that way.

It didn't work, but he's an egotistical, unsophisticated dude and likely didn't plan things through as thoroughly or intelligently as a sophisticated guy with legal training would.

According to the accused violent pimp, she does. I don't know that for a fact. Nor do I know if hers is the key evidence in the case or whether her testimony would be corroborated by other evidence. These are all things that happen at trial, Harry.

You have too much the man-love for Tate.
Gotta love how the goal posts have changed in the modern era. So we have a woman that is in Tate's house and she can come and go as she pleases from the house which has 24/7 camera surveillance. Her job is voluntary - to be on a webcam, if she so chooses. Yet this somehow makes Tate a "violent pimp".

You have supported ACTUAL pimps here in Toronto by being a fucking John. You know, people that compel women to have SEX with men for money. That's pimping.

I get the feeling that you don't have the slightest clue how the webcamming business works, nor business in general. Recall how Twitter was supposed to collapse within a week after firing all the excess fat on the payroll?

Stop projecting your own rotten core onto others. If you had half the ability and ambition as Tate, you'd have a different take on the matter.

All the Johns on Terb are morally bankrupt compared to Tate. You participate in an industry known for abuses and trafficking while you pay to have sex with women whose backgrounds you know nothing about. Tate employs women to go on a webcam of their own volition yet he's the monster.

Get over yourself. People like you are the real threat.
 
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mandrill

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Gotta love how the goal posts have changed in the modern era. So we have a woman that is in Tate's house and she can come and go as she pleases from the house which has 24/7 camera surveillance. Her job is voluntary - to be on a webcam. Yet this somehow makes Tate a "violent pimp".
That's HIS version. The Romanian prosecutors seem to have a different point of view. Again, your road to resolving the facts in the case is to assume that the accused is 100% honest, the prosecution lying scoundrels and that there is no need to hear actual evidence at a trial.
You have supported ACTUAL pimps here in Toronto by being a fucking John. You know, people that compel women to have SEX with men for money.
No, I haven't.
I'm getting the feeling that you don't have the slightest clue how the webcamming business works.
Share with me, Harry? How do YOU think it works?

Stop projecting your own rotten core onto men like Tate. If you have half the ability and ambition as him, you'd have a different take on the matter.
Sorry, I'm not a pimp. Or an internet grifter.
 

Valcazar

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Sure they are clear.

I haven't followed the case super close but from what I understand it takes 2 judges to file charges in Romania, and one of the 2 judges felt Tate shouldnt be charged at all.
Who said that?
If there was a statement from the judge that Tate shouldn't be charged at all, that's different. (I haven't been following this case at all other than here so I'm happy to admit I may have missed such a statement.)

Secondly, the current residing judge clearly feels Tate is not a flight risk or he wouldn't have released him from house arrest. If the evidence was overwhelming the judge would have been reluctant to release him from house arrest because there would be a much greater chance of flight risk.
That's an assumption that I don't think logically follows.
The strength of evidence against him wouldn't be the sole determiner of flight risk so unless the judge said that was the reason for changing the custody order I don't think you can assume it says much of anything.

Last but not least, 2 of his camgirls have come out in defense of him.
Thats not exactly going to help the prosecutor's case
Sure, but that has nothing to do with the decisions about custody and so on.
That's just Tate providing defense witnesses - which he has every right to do from what I understand.
 
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