True. Heck, not only did the Raptors trade a "very good" player, they traded their franchise player and one of the best in their history. It's one thing to trade a prospect your fans have never seen, and quite another to trade their hero before he's washed up.
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Agreed. In my opinion, Shapiro was spooked by the presence of Anthopoulos and purposely tried to drive him out. He probably knew firing Anthopoulos would be bad p.r. so he tried to make life miserable for him so he would leave voluntarily.
Strange game tonight.
--Jays get 3 runs in the 6th without getting a hit. 3 walks, 2 HBP, 1 Oriole error.
--Game ends on a pickoff at first base.
--Not sure how thrilled Belt was with the ice water shower during his post game interview.
--Jays win the game with 3 hits total. 2 of them by ........wait for it......Belt.
--Jays get 3 runs in the 6th without getting a hit. 3 walks, 2 HBP, 1 Oriole error.
--Game ends on a pickoff at first base.
--Not sure how thrilled Belt was with the ice water shower during his post game interview.
--Jays win the game with 3 hits total. 2 of them by ........wait for it......Belt.
AA is very very good at his job. Honestly it was a travesty that he left.
Having said that I'm not as down on the present team of higher management that some members are here.
It would be interesting to see an analysis of their drafting and development outcomes from their tenure.
Well I guess there is this https://www.mlb.com/news/farm-system-rankings-2023-preseason
Yikes!....
I feel that if AA had been left in charge, we would not have gone through that 5-7 year rebuild and we're still just barely a playoff contender. We had some abysmal teams in there just so Shapo could remove all remnants of the AA regime.
AA has had success everywhere he has gone. He was the face of the Jays and adored in the clubhouse.
If Shapiro hadn't treated AA like that I could give a more unbiased assessment of him, but my judgement is clouded.
Atlanta dead last in the prospect ranking.....there's irony for you.
Wot??? Jim Germany was a gridiron football player, he retired long ago.And now Germany are out
The Rainbow Roll was invented in Toronto by a young sushi chef named Shintaro. Now another Shintaro gifted us a rare victory over the Orioles.
Man, some of your posts are just too funny (in a good way). LOL. You know how to think outside the box.
I'm thinking that Germany played for The Esks. But that was quite a while ago.
On March 11 last year, Pete Walker was charged with DUI. What happened with that? Was it buried for good old Pete? Was he innocent. Did he pay a fine? Did the Jays do anything at all? My point is that this may be the exception and if so, it is hypocrisy.
I am responding to a post way up above about how the Jays discipline players like Bass, Escobar, Osuna etc.
I am responding to a post way up above about how the Jays discipline players like Bass, Escobar, Osuna etc.
I'm assuming Pete Walker paid for Xcoper, he pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of reckless driving and paid the fine.
As for thinking outside the box, that's how I earned a living.
Ricky Tiedemann had another fine outing on July 29, eight days after his first rehab game since May 4. This time, after moving up a level from Rookie to Low A, Ricky fanned six in three innings for Dunedin.
There is an outside chance that he could pitch at six different levels of the Jays' system this year. I can't think of any player who has played at more than four different levels in the same season, and that includes both rising young stars and veterans who had minor league rehab assignments.
He hasn't yet pitched at High A, (Vancouver), AAA, (Buffalo), nor for Toronto.
Alek Manoah has also pitched at three levels this year, (Rookie, AA and Majors), but here's hoping he doesn't add a fourth, fifth or sixth.
There is an outside chance that he could pitch at six different levels of the Jays' system this year. I can't think of any player who has played at more than four different levels in the same season, and that includes both rising young stars and veterans who had minor league rehab assignments.
He hasn't yet pitched at High A, (Vancouver), AAA, (Buffalo), nor for Toronto.
Alek Manoah has also pitched at three levels this year, (Rookie, AA and Majors), but here's hoping he doesn't add a fourth, fifth or sixth.
Yes! While watching the game at my friends on Tuesday night I mentioned that perhaps coming up on 34 years old next month that Springer we are witnessing Springer's decline. I remember how quickly Bautista went from a 40 HR season to half thatn then gone in just a few years. Hear Kevin Barker say today, he thinks he's on his back 9.
Vernon Wells did 4 levels in 1999....For a hitter that's amazing.
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I always felt like that Odor punch made Bautista less scary at the plate. It sounds silly, but I think that just took a little bit of his edge away in the opposing pitchers mind. Mix that in with his age decline and I think that’s a combination of what happened.
So are we organizing a group party to watch the August 12th retirement of Bautista to The Level Of Excellence? Who has the bucket of beers? Lol
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This is so very true. I wish AA had stayed. The only positive out of him leaving was he would’ve most likely signed David Price to a long-term deal. That was his guy. And as we know, his Velo dropped dramatically over the next five seasons, along with a sharp decline straight to retirment.
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I know this is a wishful thinking dream… I would love to see the Blue Jays shake up the hitting coach situation. Imagine putting Joey Batts as a hitting coach on the heels of the August 12th ceremony? If there’s anyone that knows how to turn on a baseball and use your mechanics and hips….. it would be Bautista. I just don’t expect him to teach much about hitting the opposite field. Lol.
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Vernon Wells did 4 level in 1999....For a hitter that's amazing.
Vernon Wells Minor Leagues Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com
Vernon Wells Minor Leagues Statistics including batting, fielding, prospect rankings and more on Baseball-Reference.com
Several have done 4 levels in a season. Tom 'Flash' Gordon in 1988 is one of them, also A-Rod in 1994 and Juan Soto in 2018. Stephen Strasberg pitched at five levels in 2011, but most were rehab; he had played in the Majors the previous season. Strasberg could possibly be the only player to have appeared in games at five levels in one season.
Most candidates to complete this feat will be either International players, high school phenoms selected at or near the top of the June Draft, or a guy rushed to the Majors by an expansion team or a franchise struggling for attendance. A top draft pick who played in the NCAA isn't likely to do it, because most of them start their professional career at AA.
Cade Horton in the Chicago Cubs organization has advanced from Low A through High A to AA this year, his first as a professional. He was previously a star in both Baseball and Football for the Oklahoma Sooners. He's already had Tommy John surgery.
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