Can Putin be assassinated?

y2kmark

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Anyone has as much common sense as Michael Corleone
would understand it is a lot less costly for a crime boss to order
his henchman to kill someone than through charity donation
to an army to get the job done. Perhaps people are already
wanting to win the Ukraine proxy war on the cheap to have entertained
the option of taking out Putin by assassination.
There's better access to various lethal assets within Russia than outside. Vlad is much more vulnerable to a stab in the back than the long arm of some foreign intelligence service...
 

Butler1000

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You said it was in the constitution.

Also "when the very existence of the state is put under threat”"
His death does not put the state under threat. I mean he could say it does but that would put him in the realm of addict and some of the other lads here.
Um, the assassination of a head of state by another state would be considered this yes.

Can you imagine how the USA would react to a radioactive isotope in Biden's tea?

When the clause was put in the analysis was what I said.
 

NotADcotor

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Um, the assassination of a head of state by another state would be considered this yes.

Can you imagine how the USA would react to a radioactive isotope in Biden's tea?

When the clause was put in the analysis was what I said.
Not a threat to the existence. If Biden got killed, there is Kamala Harris. If she bites it then McCarthy, Murray and so on.
You know what would be a threat to the existence of the US, setting of a full scale nuclear war.
When Kennedy was shot, the US lived on. It wouldn't have made a difference if it was a lone gunman or someone working for the Grand Duchy of Fenwick.

Ditto for Poutine. If he was to die, someone else would take over. Life would go on. World leaders die all the time. No reason to murder 100 million people.

Now is a foreign power assassinating a national leader and extremely hostile act. Yeah buddy. Does it warrant a DoW, perhaps, if you and friends can take on the enemy. You kill Castro and Cuba ain't doing shit because it can't. If Cuba killed a US president, there is going to be some very serious payback.

However it would not qualify for a threat to the existence of the Russian state that would allow for a nuclear response FFS.
 
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Not a threat to the existence. If Biden got killed, there is Kamala Harris. If she bites it then McCarthy, Murray and so on.
You know what would be a threat to the existence of the US, setting of a full scale nuclear war.
When Kennedy was shot, the US lived on. It wouldn't have made a difference if it was a lone gunman or someone working for the Grand Duchy of Fenwick.

Ditto for Poutine. If he was to die, someone else would take over. Life would go on. World leaders die all the time. No reason to murder 100 million people.

Now is a foreign power assassinating a national leader and extremely hostile act. Yeah buddy. Does it warrant a DoW, perhaps, if you and friends can take on the enemy. You kill Castro and Cuba ain't doing shit because it can't. If Cuba killed a US president, there is going to be some very serious payback.

However it would not qualify for a threat to the existence of the Russian state that would allow for a nuclear response FFS.
Im not disagreeing. It was assumed at the time by the analyists that Putin did it as a pre-emptive threat knowing, now in hindsight, he was heading into Ukraine.
 

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Get an excellent sniper with a clear shot within 2 kilometers of him with no drone supression, even though Russias drone suppression devices seem to be unreliable, and it is possible.
Canadian military snipers target practice at 3 kilometer ranges.
 
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Get an excellent sniper with a clear shot within 2 kilometers of him with no drone supression, even though Russias drone suppression devices seem to be unreliable, and it is possible.
Canadian military snipers target practice at 3 kilometer ranges.
Approx. how long would it take for a bullet to travel that distance?
 

PeteOsborne

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Approx. how long would it take for a bullet to travel that distance?
10 seconds.
This video below was recently declassified after being held because of national security concerns, a very good watch.
Fast forward to 2:05:00 for a revelation concering the amount of times kill shots over 2500 meters were made but not oficailly released.
If you go to 2:14:00 it includes his personal video of the room they were shooting from and an overwatch of the areas they were covering.
The original release of this video included the video confirmation of the longest kill shot but was not in the rereleased declassified video.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/forme...before-releasing-video-of-kill-shot-1.6278407
 
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This article notes some of the training Canadian snipers take.
https://macleans.ca/news/canada/a-different-level-of-military-sniper/
"But Furlong points out that these types of distances, 3,000 metres and more, are regularly achieved on the shooting range."

Just a note, don"t be surprised in the future if it is ever revealed that Ukrainian snipers have been and are recieving this sniper training and equipment from Canadian military sniper instructors since mid 2022.
 
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NotADcotor

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10 seconds.
Just asking, aren't those rifles pretty loud and wouldn't the noise give Poutine a chance to duck. I thought [but don't know] that at that range you are pretty much talking .50 cal which are rather loud.
 

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Just asking, aren't those rifles pretty loud and wouldn't the noise give Poutine a chance to duck. I thought [but don't know] that at that range you are pretty much talking .50 cal which are rather loud.
I guess it's a matter of the speed of the bullet vs. the speed of sound.

As well, there's a big chance of movement on the part of the intended target in 10 seconds, That was my point in asking how long it would take. It's almost like you'd have to have a stationary target, such as seated, which most likely means indoors.
 

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It could be done, but what happens afterwards might be even more scarier
That all depends on what Klaus, Putin, and the rest discussed about the various scenarios they ran in the boardrooms of the W.E.F.
But he's been keeping his part of the deal so why shoot or push the little Russian out the window?
 

NotADcotor

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I guess it's a matter of the speed of the bullet vs. the speed of sound.

As well, there's a big chance of movement on the part of the intended target in 10 seconds, That was my point in asking how long it would take. It's almost like you'd have to have a stationary target, such as seated, which most likely means indoors.
Oh yeah, they wouldn't be subsonic rounds would they. Dooh!
 

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I guess it's a matter of the speed of the bullet vs. the speed of sound.

As well, there's a big chance of movement on the part of the intended target in 10 seconds, That was my point in asking how long it would take. It's almost like you'd have to have a stationary target, such as seated, which most likely means indoors.
That is why snipers observe their targets and establish movement patterns.
In the interviews I posted, it was said that the snipers had remained in their hide for 50 days observing and gathering intel before firing their first shot.
They knew who lived in what house, how many people lived in each house,what time the kids would come out and play, when the talibam were active, what people were having for breakfast lunch and supper etc.
 

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The problem with assassination is Putin and his aides are all part of the old KGB intelligence community. He has spent more than 20 years purging the system of anybody who is competent, and has a different view. All the people in his circle view the threats the Russia exactly the same as him… so you can change the figure head, but you still get the War. And the corruption. And the ultimate goal of controlling Eastern Europe as they did in the good old days.
 

NotADcotor

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That is why snipers observe their targets and establish movement patterns.
In the interviews I posted, it was said that the snipers had remained in their hide for 50 days observing and gathering intel before firing their first shot.
They knew who lived in what house, how many people lived in each house,what time the kids would come out and play, when the talibam were active, what people were having for breakfast lunch and supper etc.
50 days, that is just insane dedication. As was said about Richard Sharpe. Sniper, that's soldiering.

Kinda funny if they figured the target went for a mid afternoon wank every day at exactly 3:00 for 15 minutes. I suppose it would be a good time to die, but there should be an addition to the Geneva Convention that you need to time the shot to let a bro finish, even if the mission fails. Ugbha, Splat, Different splat.

Yes I need a life.
 
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The problem with assassination is Putin and his aides are all part of the old KGB intelligence community. He has spent more than 20 years purging the system of anybody who is competent, and has a different view. All the people in his circle view the threats the Russia exactly the same as him… so you can change the figure head, but you still get the War. And the corruption. And the ultimate goal of controlling Eastern Europe as they did in the good old days.
Except its hard to say if Putin's war is popular enough that it would continue to be supported should he be removed.
 

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Except its hard to say if Putin's war is popular enough that it would continue to be supported should he be removed.
I agree, I think for most it's apparent that the war is causing Russia a lot of unneeded pain except most are afraid to admit it with Putin still in charge.
 

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Put in tends to avoid the high floors lol
 
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