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Grooming children with clothing - Your thoughts?

What grooms kids more?

  • Pride Supportive clothing

  • Regular clothing (ie - girls short shorts)

  • Neither

  • Both

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Jenesis

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Ask why anyone is paying Drag Queens to parade before an audience of children.
Because if you knew anything about drag - it is not all about sex. It could be a guy dressed as 50s house wife. No one said anything to Robin Williams when he made a children’s movie in drag.

Why are you relating everything back to sex. It is a person in a dress. In adult drag shows, plenty of adult humour and stuff. Kids - no. They are entertainers. Not pedophiles.
 

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1) it’s called sarcasm. Learn to recognize it. With respect to both “princess”, which clearly because word associations are lost you, I’ll take you by the hand. Princess is to beauty pageants…

and “permission to brush their teeth”. Also heavy sarcasm. For a culture that still has honour killings, doesn’t allow women to go to school, and much more. Doesn’t even come close to treating them as humans. Just objects.


2) “you” Kautilya (want to tell the board what that stands for) referred to Middle East cultures.

3) you, yes you regardless of your origins said and I quote. Whether Eastern or Western cultures

“it’s no big deal”
There is no getting around that.
 

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“Whether Eastern or western cultures, it’s no big deal…”

that is all that need to be said.

Whether or not you are Hindu, or subscribe to it. Or chose a word association yourself. That is secondary and now utter delflection.
 

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More deflection as were your attacks on/me for using “princess”…which should have been obvious why…..

you are kind of known for deflecting. Not surprised.

and you know, as well as everyone else reading. The “thread” had expanded well beyond just clorhing for toddlers. I mean shit just look at the image

you chose

But if you really want to try and grasp onto something. “Fine” let’s limit it to just how Middle East cultures force. Daughters, their GFs, their wives ( arranged or not) to dress and the penalties for not obeying.


“it’s no big deal”

says a lot unfortunately
 

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Beats me why people are blaming Drag Queens for children being there. It's not like children magically appeared there...they were brought by their parents.

So, the question is, why are parents bringing their children to adult-themed shows?
Well this begs the question.

Is drag automatically “adult-themed” because it is a man dressing as a woman? Or is the material of the show what makes it “adult-themed”?

You could have a person dressed a clown suit but make penis balloons while telling pegging jokes.

So it is the attire or the material?
 
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More deflection. It’s what you do…. hey everybody, look anywhere but at what I said…yep, I said that. Can you guess why. But she is extremely attractive if you prefer.

How can anyone not take issue with. Whether Eastern or western culture. It’s no big deal.

Personally don’t care if you’re Hindu. Your attacks for striking too close to home also say a lot. As I said, in all fairness……

/ignored
 

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Well this begs the question.

Is drag automatically “adult-themed” because it is a man dressing as a woman? Or is the material of the show what makes it “adult-themed”?

You could have a person dressed a clown suit but make penis balloons while telling pegging jokes.

So it is the attire or the material?
So Ross Petty does drag at Xmas every year. But it is Pantomime drag. Other comedians also did drag dating back to Minton Berle, Tom Hanks, Robin Williams, in modern media and to doubt even further.

But it was always played solely for laughs. A dude in a dress looks unfainly, funny, and with a bit if over the top action just works.

The readings etc are as much about politicizing things. And quite simply some parents don't want their kids education time in grade school to be about politics. They want to maintain their innocence for a bit.
That I think is where the line is.

I believe in the use of sex education to teach about being gay. As much as about the biological functions and societal standards of behavior. I think most parents agree.
 

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So Ross Petty does drag at Xmas every year. But it is Pantomime drag. Other comedians also did drag dating back to Minton Berle, Tom Hanks, Robin Williams, in modern media and to doubt even further.

But it was always played solely for laughs. A dude in a dress looks unfainly, funny, and with a bit if over the top action just works.

The readings etc are as much about politicizing things. And quite simply some parents don't want their kids education time in grade school to be about politics. They want to maintain their innocence for a bit.
That I think is where the line is.

I believe in the use of sex education to teach about being gay. As much as about the biological functions and societal standards of behavior. I think most parents agree.
Are you suggesting that drag queens only do readings for political reasons? That the only people who hire drag queens for readings do it for political reason?

Can a drag reading only be acceptable if it is funny as well???? Because a man dressed again, as 50s house wife reading in funny voices would be laugh worthy. Depending on the voices and the material. Kids love funny voices.

I think there is a lot of labeling going on. And incorrectly at that

Now if you can show me drag readings that are inappropriate - I will happily call them out.
 
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Are you suggesting that drag queens only do readings for political reasons? That the only people who hire drag queens for readings do it for political reason?

Can a drag reading only be acceptable if it is funny as well???? Because a man dressed again, as 50s house wife reading in funny voices would be laugh worthy. Depending on the voices and the material. Kids love funny voices.

I think there is a lot of labeling going on. And incorrectly at that

Now if you can show me drag readings that are inappropriate - I will happily call them out.
I'm suggesting enough do, and make sure to get the media attention for doing it, that they cause the label to be applied.
 

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Reading story books to them with titles like "My Two Dads" featuring cartoons of men cornholing each gave me a different impression.
Can you share the link to the book showing “cornholing”?

I don’t have a problem with a book about two dads. I can’t see a children’s book about two dad having cartoon porn in it.
 
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I'm suggesting enough do, and make sure to get the media attention for doing it, that they cause the label to be applied.
I don’t know. I follow the careers of some of these drag queens and they are nothing like you describe.
 
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I suspect that there are 1,000s of shows that we have no idea about and only the outlier/really bad ones are we really aware about. Thus, it may skew our perception of what really happens.
Probably true…but that’s because this whole issue is being driven by people who want to stir up hate against the trans community. The bizarre, off the wall stories are the only ones that serve their political interest so they barrage social media platforms with this stuff.

Here on terb, it’s the same people who used to post obsessively about Muslims doing bad things- every time a Muslim got a speeding ticket or jay walked there were breathless, pearl-clutching threads about how Muslims could not be assimilated into Western culture, No Go neighbourhoods that were ruled by Sharia Law, etc, etc,…. The mods here on terb, and most other mainstream social media platforms don’t allow islamophobic posting anymore so now they attack the trans community.

SSDD
 
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Probably true…but that’s because this whole issue is being driven by people who want to stir up hate against the trans community. The bizarre, off the wall stories are the only ones that serve their political interest so they barrage social media platforms with this stuff.

Here on terb, it’s the same people who used to post obsessively about Muslims doing bad things- every time a Muslim got a speeding ticket or jay walked their were breathless, pearl-clutching threads about how Muslims could not be assimilated into Western culture, No Go neighbourhoods that were ruled by Sharia Law, etc, etc,…. The mods here on terb, and most other mainstream social media platforms don’t allow islamophobic posting anymore so now they attack the trans community.

SSDD
I might double down on that and say anyone, anything that’s deemed different or abnormal from societies “norms”.
/points at mental health.
 

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I don’t know. I follow the careers of some of these drag queens and they are nothing like you describe.
So the ones being shown on TV are outliers?

I actually don't think its a common thing anyway. But I do think the ones out there are attempting to do it for positive reasons. The question is what is too young.
 

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I suspect that there are 1,000s of shows that we have no idea about and only the outlier/really bad ones are we really aware about. Thus, it may skew our perception of what really happens.
Jeez, so you get it! But I don't think there are 1000's of shows.
 
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